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Can Trump be the next speaker of the House? These Republicans say they’re backing him


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This has got to be an epic troll, right? :blink:

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House Speaker Donald Trump?

Now that there’s an opening, a handful of House Republicans are calling for it and the former president is both publicly and privately toying with the idea.

“A lot of people have been calling me about speaker. All I can say is we’ll do whatever is best for the country and the Republican Party,” Trump, 77, told reporters Wednesday outside the Manhattan courtroom where his civil fraud trial is ongoing.

“My total focus is on being president,” Trump added, noting that there are other “great people” in the GOP who could handle the job.

However, a Republican House aide told The Post Wednesday that the GOP kingpin is indeed “interested in the job.”

 

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They want to destroy the system. 
Which, as a classical anarchist, I endorse entirely on account of the system no longer being fit for purpose. It’s the means of destruction, in that the destruction will bring about untold suffering, that I (as a classical anarchist, Christian and ascended ape with a conscience) cannot and will never support. 

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50 minutes ago, OverSword said:

This has got to be an epic troll, right? :blink:

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Actually no, Trump can't become the Speaker of the House according to Conference Rules of the 118th Congress

Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.

(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.

Conference Rules of the 118th Congress | U.S. Representative (gop.gov)

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9 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Actually no, Trump can't become the Speaker of the House according to Conference Rules of the 118th Congress

Rule 26—Temporary Step Aside of a Member of Leadership who is Indicted

(a) A member of the Republican Leadership shall step aside if indicted for a felony for which a sentence of two or more years imprisonment may be imposed.

(b) If a member of the Republican Elected Leadership is indicted, the Republican Conference shall meet and elect a Member to temporarily serve in that position.

(c) If a member of the Republican Leadership resigns pursuant to this rule, and subsequently during that Congress is acquitted or the charges are dismissed or reduced to less than a felony as described in paragraph (a), such Member shall resume the position from which they resigned, unless the Republican Conference decides otherwise within 10 legislative days.

Conference Rules of the 118th Congress | U.S. Representative (gop.gov)

Those rules can be amended at any time by a majority in the House.  If Republicans really want Trump as speaker of the house they can just change the rules and make an exception to rule 26 for speaker of the house which would allow Trump to have it.

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7 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

Those rules can be amended at any time by a majority in the House.  If Republicans really want Trump as speaker of the house they can just change the rules and make an exception to rule 26 for speaker of the house which would allow Trump to have it.

I am aware of that, but I doubt that a majority could be achieved in the house that allow the current rules to be changed. 

JIMHO

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42 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

They want to destroy the system. 

I respect your opinion but you might want to understand that this is precisely what the "other side" in America believes of the crowd in DC.  Considering the chaos of the last 3 years, I'd say the evidence is abundant.  What is about to be destroyed is the establishment wing, the controlled opposition of the RINO branch of the Republican party.  If that requires totally taking the party down and building another, so be it.

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1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I am aware of that, but I doubt that a majority could be achieved in the house that allow the current rules to be changed. 

JIMHO

If Trump can get enough support to become speaker then he has enough support to change the rules to allow it, it's just a simple majority to change the rules.

Trump even accepting the nomination itself is extremely unlikely

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1 hour ago, OverSword said:

This has got to be an epic troll, right? :blink:

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I sincerely doubt he'd campaign for that job.  Even if he chose to, there would never be enough support to get him elected to it.  There is one purpose that could be served by it though.  Make every member vote on the record so it's easier to id the true RINO element.  

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4 minutes ago, and-then said:

I sincerely doubt he'd campaign for that job.  Even if he chose to, there would never be enough support to get him elected to it.  There is one purpose that could be served by it though.  Make every member vote on the record so it's easier to id the true RINO element.  

That's easy, were all connected by AT&T and were proud of our affiliation!!!:tu:

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9 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

If Trump can get enough support to become speaker then he has enough support to change the rules to allow it, it's just a simple majority to change the rules.

Trump even accepting the nomination itself is extremely unlikely

On this we can respectfully agree!:yes:

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Doesn't he have to win a seat in the House through election before they can name him Speaker? I thought only a Representative could be voted for Speaker and a Representative has to be elected by the people.

I don't know. The way things are now maybe not.

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Speaker of the House is a very difficult and time-consuming job. Not the sort of thing POS POTUS is likely to want. And, between campaigning and court dates, probably wouldn't have time to play at Speaker.

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10 minutes ago, susieice said:

Doesn't he have to win a seat in the House through election before they can name him Speaker? I thought only a Representative could be voted for Speaker and a Representative has to be elected by the people.

I don't know. The way things are now maybe not.

Those rules aren't set in our Constitution so each new House sets their own rules.  In the past there has been no requirement that a Speaker be a member of Congress.  As for his time being too thoroughly taken up, especially due to these sham court cases, he needs to stiff arm those courts and force them to arrest him or shut up.  I seriously doubt they'd hand him such a gift as actually jailing him.  But hey, let them do what they'll do and we can watch the circus come to town ;) 

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37 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

That's easy, were all connected by AT&T and were proud of our affiliation!!!:tu:

Oh, I'm sure they are, right up until they begin being primaried ;)  I actually emailed my Representative today and told him I'll not be voting for him again because he refused to vote with the eight who took McCarthy down.  No second chances for any of them, any longer.  Enough with being the party that kisses the ass of Democrats in Congress.  Controlled opposition is the same as Democrat supporters.

The Republican party is increasingly in flux and a growing number of Americans are sick of the consequences of the actions they've been taking and are complicit in.  The media can keep chanting about the wonders of Bidenomics, but average people are seriously suffering in ways they remember they WEREN'T in the last administration.  The chaos being intentionally created by the current administration - whoever the hell is calling the shots - cannot be seen as anything but intentional and if they must resort to another massively sketchy election, they're going to face outrage and resistance to their rule.

~SPOILER ALERT~ Duncan is not threatening anyone with anything, so don't waste your time trying to attack him for it ;)

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22 minutes ago, and-then said:

Oh, I'm sure they are, right up until they begin being primaried ;)  I actually emailed my Representative today and told him I'll not be voting for him again because he refused to vote with the eight who took McCarthy down.  No second chances for any of them, any longer.  Enough with being the party that kisses the ass of Democrats in Congress.  Controlled opposition is the same as Democrat supporters.

Sincerely, do you honestly believe these people care? However, I think that was the right thing to do, even though I don't believe removing McCarthy was the right thing to do!:yes: I believe, the members who pushed McCarty out, are going to regret their actions!!:yes:

22 minutes ago, and-then said:

The Republican party is increasingly in flux and a growing number of Americans are sick of the consequences of the actions they've been taking and are complicit in.  The media can keep chanting about the wonders of Bidenomics, but average people are seriously suffering in ways they remember they WEREN'T in the last administration.

Realistically, I think there is more to the current situation than what you call Bidenomics. I am not convinced that any President can have the effect on the economy that we are currently seeing during their first term. I believe this is a systemic problem, that more than any single Administration is responsible for. I also believe that the Pandemic is responsible in ways we are just seeing!:yes:

22 minutes ago, and-then said:

The chaos being intentionally created by the current administration - whoever the hell is calling the shots - cannot be seen as anything but intentional and if they must resort to another massively sketchy election, they're going to face outrage and resistance to their rule.

~SPOILER ALERT~ Duncan is not threatening anyone with anything, so don't waste your time trying to attack him for it ;)

I certainly do not think you are Duncan!:yes:

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49 minutes ago, susieice said:

Doesn't he have to win a seat in the House through election before they can name him Speaker? I thought only a Representative could be voted for Speaker and a Representative has to be elected by the people.

I don't know. The way things are now maybe not.

No, it's not required for the Speaker of the House to be a Congressman. However, Trump doesn't qualify under the current rules of the House of Representatives, according to rule 26 that is currently in place because he has been Indicted for Felonies!!!

Conference Rules of the 118th Congress: Conference Rules of the 118th Congress | U.S. Representative (gop.gov)

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2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

They want to destroy the system. 
Which, as a classical anarchist, I endorse entirely on account of the system no longer being fit for purpose. It’s the means of destruction, in that the destruction will bring about untold suffering, that I (as a classical anarchist, Christian and ascended ape with a conscience) cannot and will never support. 

I question if bringing down our government would bring untold suffering or if the vacuum would last long enough for most us to really notice?

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1 hour ago, Portre said:

Speaker of the House is a very difficult and time-consuming job. Not the sort of thing POS POTUS is likely to want. And, between campaigning and court dates, probably wouldn't have time to play at Speaker.

On the other hand, he probably could use the 223K salary. :tsu:

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He would have to give up golf to do the job. He would actually have to work. Then there's his inability to speak in sentences, or articulate a concept. It would be a shiat show of epic proportions. 

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Still, imagine Trump as speaker of the House passing a bill and Mitch torpedoes it in the Senate or Biden vetoes it.  He would look like a loser.  I rather think somebody who advises him might point that out.

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1 hour ago, Hankenhunter said:

He would have to give up golf to do the job. He would actually have to work. Then there's his inability to speak in sentences, or articulate a concept. It would be a shiat show of epic proportions. 

He would never run.  He would be seen as a 3 time loser in the popular vote.

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Not even the current supreme court would allow that. Unless of course he foregoed running for president. 

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19 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Still, imagine Trump as speaker of the House passing a bill and Mitch torpedoes it in the Senate or Biden vetoes it.  He would look like a loser.  I rather think somebody who advises him might point that out.

And he always followed the advice of his cabinet, chief of staff, lawyers, ...

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40 minutes ago, Portre said:

And he always followed the advice of his cabinet, chief of staff, lawyers, ...

Don't forget the power of vanity though.  He didn't like masks because the straps smudged his makeup.   Being called a loser would be right up there with falling off the Forbes List.  

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