+OverSword Posted November 21, 2023 #276 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: Will has repeatedly preached his space jesus religion. It isn't that he believes, it's the forced expectation that others should too. Or else. I have not seen that. I have seen people insulting him without making an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #277 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, OverSword said: I have not seen that. I have seen people insulting him without making an argument. I don't care enough about him to bother anymore. I let others handle him. As for insulting him, the word "frustrating" comes to mind. He can be that very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 21, 2023 #278 Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I don't care enough about him to bother anymore. I let others handle him. As for insulting him, the word "frustrating" comes to mind. He can be that very much. That’s an understatement. I see it like this, I explained my take on things and if Will’s not intelligent enough to understand what I said without twisting it into something I most definitely didn’t say or think THAT’S ON HIM. And for anyone else to come out of the woodwork to defend his stupidity is just mind-boggling IMO. cormac 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 21, 2023 #279 Share Posted November 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, OverSword said: I'm not sure what spiritual comprehension is but I assume it's like faith then why bother arguing about it with people who it seems are bullying you simply for the way you feel about something? Are they worth it? They seem to have an irrational hostility toward you or probably Christianity. I wonder, would they treat a Hindu with such vehemence if they were on here speaking about why they have belief in their religion? I doubt it sincerely. Read my blog on the Urantia Book. Then shut the **** up.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 21, 2023 #280 Share Posted November 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I don't care enough about him to bother anymore. I let others handle him. As for insulting him, the word "frustrating" comes to mind. He can be that very much. Only if you want to keep engaging him to the point of name calling. Reading his responses is like reading someone that believes faith is proof (which it's not) reading some of the responses to him delves into the realm of 12 year old's cyber bullying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 21, 2023 #281 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Piney said: Read my blog on the Urantia Book. Then shut the **** up.... I have yet to read anyone's blogs on here and never heard of the Urantia Book. I notice it's not about Hinduism 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 21, 2023 #282 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Only if you want to keep engaging him to the point of name calling. Reading his responses is like reading someone that believes faith is proof (which it's not) reading some of the responses to him delves into the realm of 12 year old's cyber bullying People get tired of preaching that devolves into bi-polar personal attacks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #283 Share Posted November 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, OverSword said: I have yet to read anyone's blogs on here and never heard of the Urantia Book. I notice it's not about Hinduism I might be wrong but it's like a prototype of scientology. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 21, 2023 #284 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, OverSword said: I have yet to read anyone's blogs on here and never heard of the Urantia Book. I notice it's not about Hinduism A racist ex Seventh-Day Adventist went on to found a racist and anti-science UFO cult. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 21, 2023 #285 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, XenoFish said: I might be wrong but it's like a prototype of scientology. Hubbard robbed Sadler as much as he robbed the Mormons. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #286 Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, OverSword said: Only if you want to keep engaging him to the point of name calling. Reading his responses is like reading someone that believes faith is proof (which it's not) reading some of the responses to him delves into the realm of 12 year old's cyber bullying Like I stated, I just don't care any longer. I've had enough of the runaround. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #287 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Piney said: Hubbard robbed Sadler as much as he robbed the Mormons. I knew it was a convoluted some-thing-another. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 21, 2023 #288 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Piney said: People get tired of preaching that devolves into bi-polar personal attacks. That's fair and I don't spend a ton of time in the religious section but just what I was reading on this thread the personal attacks weren't coming from him. One thing I try to keep in mind is that a person may be bi-polar, schizophrenic, have autism, be a child, etc. online when I'm talking to them. I've seen what I think were little kids trying to talk about UFO's on here before being talked to by people I know are adults in ways you should never talk to a young person trying to figure stuff out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #289 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: That's fair and I don't spend a ton of time in the religious section but just what I was reading on this thread the personal attacks weren't coming from him. One thing I try to keep in mind is that a person may be bi-polar, schizophrenic, have autism, be a child, etc. online when I'm talking to them. I've seen what I think were little kids trying to talk about UFO's on here before being talked to by people I know are adults in ways you should never talk to a young person trying to figure stuff out. It's not just a reactive thing. It's often the approach the other person makes that contributes to an actually productive discussion. I know of a few threads I really enjoyed. All because the believer approached the topic thoughtfully. I miss those threads. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 21, 2023 #290 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: That's fair and I don't spend a ton of time in the religious section but just what I was reading on this thread the personal attacks weren't coming from him. One thing I try to keep in mind is that a person may be bi-polar, schizophrenic, have autism, be a child, etc. online when I'm talking to them. I've seen what I think were little kids trying to talk about UFO's on here before being talked to by people I know are adults in ways you should never talk to a young person trying to figure stuff out. Somebody goes on to say, you know who he is, that there is absolutely nothing that is comprehensible about God. Then that person goes on to say that God is the creator. So in other words, he comprehends it. That's all. Just pointing out hypocrisy. It's about all I do these days. And they really don't like it when I do it. That's when they go there with the vitriol. In this discussion from yesterday I haven't said anything that borders on preaching. I haven't made any statements about what I believe, would should be believed, nothing about religion at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 21, 2023 #291 Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, OverSword said: That's fair and I don't spend a ton of time in the religious section but just what I was reading on this thread the personal attacks weren't coming from him. One thing I try to keep in mind is that a person may be bi-polar, schizophrenic, have autism, be a child, etc. online when I'm talking to them. I've seen what I think were little kids trying to talk about UFO's on here before being talked to by people I know are adults in ways you should never talk to a young person trying to figure stuff out. I have autism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 21, 2023 #292 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Will Due said: Somebody goes on to say, you know who he is, that there is absolutely nothing that is comprehensible about God. Then that person goes on to say that God is the creator. So in other words, he comprehends it. That's all. Just pointing out hypocrisy. It's about all I do these days. And they really don't like it when I do it. That's when they go there with the vitriol. In this discussion from yesterday I haven't said anything that borders on preaching. I haven't made any statements about what I believe, would should be believed, nothing about religion at all. So reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said before that I try to steer clear of using the word God when it comes to my beliefs as it comes with its own load of religious baggage. And Creator and Deity are just words NOT names so you really have no argument. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 21, 2023 #293 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Piney said: I have autism. I'm a ginger. So I've got the whole planets hated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 21, 2023 #294 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, cormac mac airt said: So reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said before that I try to steer clear of using the word God when it comes to my beliefs as it comes with its own load of religious baggage. And Creator and Deity are just words NOT names so you really have no argument. cormac But whatever you call it, you comprehend that it's the creator. Don't you see the contradiction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 21, 2023 #295 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Will Due said: But whatever you call it, you comprehend that it's the creator. Don't you see the contradiction? There is no contradiction as Creator has no religious connotation whatsoever nor is it religiously defined, as opposed to the baggage you believe in. cormac Edited November 21, 2023 by cormac mac airt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 21, 2023 #296 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, cormac mac airt said: There is no contradiction as it has no religious connotation whatsoever nor is it religiously defined, as opposed to the baggage you believe in. cormac Then if what you believe has no religious connotation whatsoever, stop telling everyone that they can't comprehend what you so clearly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 21, 2023 #297 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Will Due said: Then if what you believe has no religious connotation whatsoever, stop telling everyone that they can't comprehend what you so clearly do. Sure, just as soon as you can provide verifiable evidence of what constitutes existence and its comprehensibility, including a Creator, beyond our 4D universe. The ball is forever in your court. Good luck! cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 21, 2023 #298 Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Sure, just as soon as you can provide verifiable evidence of what constitutes existence and its comprehensibility, including a Creator, beyond our 4D universe. The ball is forever in your court. Good luck! cormac The onus is on you. Your claim is that there's a creator. So provide verifiable evidence that there is a creator. That's all. Edited November 21, 2023 by Will Due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 21, 2023 #299 Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Will Due said: The onus is on you. Your claim is that there's a creator. So provide verifiable evidence that there is a creator. Creator is just a word. Something pre-existed, whatever that ultimately means, our universe. There is neither a verifiable way to know what exactly it was nor that it can be comprehended by our 4D mindset. You neither have nor can show anything else as being true. Try again, your fabrication has gotten stale. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 21, 2023 #300 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Something pre-existed, whatever that ultimately means, our universe. Yes, I know. Your claim is that that something created our universe. So provide verifiable evidence that your claim is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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