Warning Signs of Christ's Second Coming

[Piney]

28 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

That’s not true. For example, 2,000 years ago, we weren’t capable of making fire come down from Heaven, in full view of the people. That concept goes along with the prophet Daniel’s prophecies of manned flight, as an element of human transport.

The other glaring forecast, which makes no sense 2,000 years ago, is the prediction that “those who destroy the earth, would be destroyed.”

You’re also forgetting the greatest signpost of all, the regrowth of the nation of Israel in 1948.

Chapter and verse of Daniel prophecies of manned flight please? 

[XenoFish]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

That’s not true. For example, 2,000 years ago, we weren’t capable of making fire come down from Heaven, in full view of the people. That concept goes along with the prophet Daniel’s prophecies of manned flight, as an element of human transport.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_thermal_weapons

Both the Assyrians and the Judeans used flaming arrows at the siege of Lachish in 701 BC.[54] More sophisticated devices were developed by the Romans which had iron boxes and tubes which were filled with incendiary substances and attached to arrows or spears. These arrows needed to be shot from loose bows, since swift flight extinguished the flame; spears could be launched by hand or throwing machine.[55]

[cormac mac airt]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

That’s not true. For example, 2,000 years ago, we weren’t capable of making fire come down from Heaven, in full view of the people. That concept goes along with the prophet Daniel’s prophecies of manned flight, as an element of human transport.

The other glaring forecast, which makes no sense 2,000 years ago, is the prediction that “those who destroy the earth, would be destroyed.”

You’re also forgetting the greatest signpost of all, the regrowth of the nation of Israel in 1948.

What I see is your trying to force-fit current knowledge onto a 2000 year old mentality and beliefs. That’s dishonest to say the least as well as being iconography meant to be understood by peoples of that time, Jesus even allegedly said it would occur within THEIR time. 
 

cormac

[XenoFish]

56 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

What I see is your trying to force-fit current knowledge onto a 2000 year old mentality and beliefs. That’s dishonest to say the least as well as being iconography meant to be understood by peoples of that time, Jesus even allegedly said it would occur within THEIR time. 
 

cormac

He also claims to be a prophet. 

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

He also claims to be a prophet. 

Well that’s one prophet who couldn’t make a profit with his knowledge base. 
 

cormac

[Raptor Witness]

3 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

…meant to be understood by peoples of that time,

You are not familiar enough with these forecasts, to know who they are for, or why there is a need for the delay in the process, of creating new Sons of God.

Perhaps the reproduction of an eternal being, is above your pay grade? 

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

You are not familiar enough with these forecasts, to know who they are for, or why there is a need for the delay in the process, of creating new Sons of God.

Perhaps the reproduction of an eternal being, is above your pay grade? 

  I’m sorry, did you say something? 

 

Here, wipe your mouth! 
 

cormac

[XenoFish]

19 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

You are not familiar enough with these forecasts, to know who they are for, or why there is a need for the delay in the process, of creating new Sons of God.

Perhaps the reproduction of an eternal being, is above your pay grade? 

A time and date for any future event to occur is just too much from your eternal being. You can twist any prediction in order to get a drop of confirmation bias and external validation. 

Well, the Bible did warn of false prophets. You're one of them. 

Edited October 22, 2023 by XenoFish

[Piney]

2 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

You are not familiar enough with these forecasts, to know who they are for, or why there is a need for the delay in the process, of creating new Sons of God.

Perhaps the reproduction of an eternal being, is above your pay grade? 

I still want the chapter and verse where Daniel predicted manned flight.

[Tatetopa]

And Daniel took in both his hands the stick of his companion Orville and pulled upon it mightily.

And lo, they were lifted up into the air on a cloak of silk and surrounded by angels singing praise to the almighty.

When they stood again upon the earth, they knelt and kissed the ground then rose and embraced in great joy

They turned and went their separate ways never speaking of this to man or woman again.

 

[Raptor Witness]

12 hours ago, Piney said:

I still want the chapter and verse where Daniel predicted manned flight.

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

[jmccr8]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

Hi Raptor

Personally speaking there is no evidence of supernatural power so no I don't think a man named Jesus did harm or good with imaginary supernatural power. I do think that some superior thinking individuals have harmed others telling stories inferring special powers. History is full of gelded gods.

Edited October 23, 2023 by jmccr8

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

The historical Jesus never harmed anyone.

His followers did one hell of a job wiping the opposition out in the past 2 thousand years though. 

[XenoFish]

4 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

Do you have a martyr complex? 

[Piney]

52 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Do you have a martyr complex? 

That's actually common among 2 bit, no denomination street preachers.

Then again a persecution complex is common among fundies in general 

[XenoFish]

14 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's actually common among 2 bit, no denomination street preachers.

Then again a persecution complex is common among fundies in general 

Must be an ego thing.

[newbloodmoon]

6 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

Instead of changing the topic, answer the question if you can. If you need time to find the particular scripture than just say so, I would be happy to read it if it exists, whether I interpret it the same remains unknown until I do.

[Raptor Witness]

11 hours ago, newbloodmoon said:

Instead of changing the topic, answer the question if you can. If you need time to find the particular scripture than just say so, I would be happy to read it if it exists, whether I interpret it the same remains unknown until I do.

If someone can’t answer this simple question, then neither will they understand the evidence, regarding the ancient forecast of manned flight.

To put it simply, you must have a certain Bible IQ.

[Raptor Witness]

16 hours ago, Piney said:

The historical Jesus never harmed anyone.

His followers did one hell of a job wiping the opposition out in the past 2 thousand years though. 

This is incorrect. Your Bible IQ is too low to understand the ancient forecast of manned flight.

[XenoFish]

38 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

If someone can’t answer this simple question, then neither will they understand the evidence, regarding the ancient forecast of manned flight.

To put it simply, you must have a certain Bible IQ.

What chapter and verse? Common turn in your homework.

[Tatetopa]

My Bible IQ peaked out when I was about 17 years old.  AFAIK, Jesus did not harm anyone with supernatural powers. The message attributed to Jesus had much to do with how people should treat other people.

I will further display my ignorance by saying that mainstream Christians do not want the Second Coming of Jesus.  They want the return of Yahweh with fire, punishment, and sacrifice. They want to have the magic spiritual finger so that they can point out to the angels which of their neighbors has offended them and should be struck down with fiery swords.  They want pain and suffering for all mankind except their chosen group.  Doesn't seem like much to do with Jesus at all.

 

[newbloodmoon]

2 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

If someone can’t answer this simple question, then neither will they understand the evidence, regarding the ancient forecast of manned flight.

To put it simply, you must have a certain Bible IQ.

No your just Lazy, or did the dog eat your bible thus preventing you from doing the most basic task?

[jmccr8]

5 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

This is incorrect. Your Bible IQ is too low to understand the ancient forecast of manned flight.

Hi Raptor

Your bible IQ what is that exactly "Idiot Quotes"?

[+Pettytalk]

1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Raptor

Your bible IQ what is that exactly "Idiot Quotes"?

It's a musical scale measurement. 

 

[Abramelin]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:47 AM, Raptor Witness said:

Before I answer, tell me if Jesus Christ ever harmed any thing or any one, using His supernatural power, or what some might call, His perceived supernatural power?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas