Why "osiris" Didn't Exist Before The 5th Dynasty.

[cladking]

1 minute ago, cladking said:

How do people not care that the literal meaning of "osiris" and every other word in the PT is simply ignored?  

I'm simply flabbergasted!

[cormac mac airt]

6 minutes ago, cladking said:

Every single person was homo sapien in 3200 BC and every single person was homo omnisciencis after 2000 BC. 

Prove it, show your verifiable evidence here and now, of a mutation that changed humans between 3200 BC and 2000 BC. 
 

cormac

Edited November 1, 2023 by cormac mac airt

[Antigonos]

6 minutes ago, cladking said:

I'm simply flabbergasted!

They have medicine for that.

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by Antigonos

[cladking]

23 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

In Merere's defense, he was keeping track of items on a balance sheet.  You don't open up an accounting book and start writing about the weather and the nosy office mail person and that horrid secretary that Bob has and the behavior of that sassy politician from that other district.  You enter just what Merere did - what you picked up, names of people involved, origin and destination.

Not poetry or history or a news report.

Nobody needs an "excuse" for not speaking AL.  It is no shame to not be able to do simultaneous equations or Boolean Geometry. Physicists can't fix my car or set a bone either.  Many people who can't do Boolean Geometry probably could if they set their minds to it but how many people does it take to run the world?   

AL was starting to get hard in 3200 BC.  Everybody wanted to speak it and only dolts of all ethnicities couldn't speak it.  By the time of Merrer in 2750 BC many people of every ethnicity couldn't speak it. And by 2000 BC there were too few left to even operate the state so the official language was changed from the original human language that had underlain all human progress to the confused pidgin languages touching off a dark age and STARTING human history.    It also left behind a 4000 year hangover of confusion.   

So how did the builders of the great pyramids know about the hydraulic cycle and electricity??????????????   Aren't you the least bit curious how this can be or why Egyptology didn't see the words?  Why do you think I saw the words?  I'm the guy who doesn't even believe in intelligence and the only guy whom can see the words!!  

[cladking]

23 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

In fact the AE were corresponding with other cultures before, during and after that with no evident problems of being understood either by them or the recipients of their correspondences. 

The entire world spoke Ancient Language.  Everywhere man went he wore his genes and spoke his language.  

After the tower of babel confusion reigned and still does.  

[Antigonos]

1 minute ago, cladking said:

I'm the guy who doesn't even believe in intelligence and the only guy whom can see the words!!  

This is priceless.

[Antigonos]

1 minute ago, cladking said:

The entire world spoke Ancient Language.  Everywhere man went he wore his genes and spoke his language.  

After the tower of babel confusion reigned and still does.  

More fan fiction 

[cladking]

8 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Prove it, show your verifiable evidence here and now, of a mutation that changed humans between 3200 BC and 2000 BC. 

This is the point of the thread.  If you can see that "osirisn" is simply a special case showing the king has been  transformed into the pyramid and water source in a ritual known only as the weighing of the heart then you can understand the PT and see a different kind of language; a metaphysical language based on the wiring of the brain and human knowledge of reality itself.  

[Antigonos]

2 minutes ago, cladking said:

This is the point of the thread.  If you can see that "osirisn" is simply a special case showing the king has been  transformed into the pyramid and water source in a ritual known only as the weighing of the heart then you can understand the PT and see a different kind of language; a metaphysical language based on the wiring of the brain and human knowledge of reality itself.  

The men in the white coats are coming for you. And I don’t mean the Good Humor men.

[cormac mac airt]

Just now, cladking said:

The entire world spoke Ancient Language.  Everywhere man went he wore his genes and spoke his language.  

After the tower of babel confusion reigned and still does.  

There was no Biblical Tower of Babel. The Etemenanki Ziggurat was BABYLONIAN and had nothing to do with either a change in language or the Jews, the Jews being Canaanite in origin. It was nothing more than a ripped off story by the Jews, reworked for their own agenda. Nothing more. 
 

cormac

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, cladking said:

This is the point of the thread.  If you can see that "osirisn" is simply a special case showing the king has been  transformed into the pyramid and water source in a ritual known only as the weighing of the heart then you can understand the PT and see a different kind of language; a metaphysical language based on the wiring of the brain and human knowledge of reality itself.  

All I see is you like making crap up. Either put up or shut up. Show your evidence! 
 

cormac

[cladking]

6 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

All I see is you like making crap up. Either put up or shut up. Show your evidence! 

You can't see the hydraulic cycle can you?   

What do you see when I point at it?  Is it all incantation and magic and you need an Egyptologist to tell you how it becomes effective magic?   

I put up i n every post and every post is ignored or turned into straw armies. 

 

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, cladking said:

You can't see the hydraulic cycle can you?   

What do you see when I point at it?  Is it all incantation and magic and you need an Egyptologist to tell you how it becomes effective magic?   

I put up i n every post and every post is ignored or turned into straw armies. 

Put up or shut up. Even the Etemenanki Ziggurat dates to centuries AFTER your non-existent mutation. 
 

cormac

[Antigonos]

9 minutes ago, cladking said:

I put up i n every post and every post is ignored or turned into straw armies. 

 

Yeah. You’re the only one whom can understand the PT despite claiming all the translations you rely on for your interpretation are wrong.

Brilliant argument.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Antigonos

[cladking]

53 minutes ago, cladking said:

1140c. (he is dried) by the wind of the great Isis, together with (which) the great Isis dried (him) like Horus.
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1146a. N. is the pouring down of rain; he came forth as the coming into being of water;
1146b. for he is the Nḥb-kȝ.w-serpent with the many coils;

This very utterance like every utterance and every single word in AL is related to "osirisn".  

1128a. To say: It is certainly not N. who asks to see thee

1128b. in the form which has become thine;

1128c. Osiris asks to see thee in the form which has become thine;

It is osiris who who is seeking the understanding of N and the stones that fly like the fledglings of swallows to create his new body. It is osiris and N who see water vapor turned into rain that falls from nehebkau's coils.  Just as N comes into being as rain he comes into being as the water source and then as his pyramid. "He, he is the pyramid, he protects".  

 

People just want to dismiss the literal meaning of every single word because the meaning doesn't fit with our beliefs that ancient people were ignorant and superstitious.  It is WE who are ignorant and superstitious.  They didn't even have a word for "superstitious" or any other abstraction.  You can't be superstitious without abstractions any more than you can run electric machines without dynamos and volt meters.  

 

We are confused.  We are superstitious.  We believe we know everything.  We believe science runs on intelligence but this doesn't even exist. 

[cladking]

19 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

All I see is you like making crap up. Either put up or shut up. Show your evidence! 

See previous post.

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, cladking said:

This very utterance like every utterance and every single word in AL is related to "osirisn".  

1128a. To say: It is certainly not N. who asks to see thee

1128b. in the form which has become thine;

1128c. Osiris asks to see thee in the form which has become thine;

It is osiris who who is seeking the understanding of N and the stones that fly like the fledglings of swallows to create his new body. It is osiris and N who see water vapor turned into rain that falls from nehebkau's coils.  Just as N comes into being as rain he comes into being as the water source and then as his pyramid. "He, he is the pyramid, he protects".  

 

People just want to dismiss the literal meaning of every single word because the meaning doesn't fit with our beliefs that ancient people were ignorant and superstitious.  It is WE who are ignorant and superstitious.  They didn't even have a word for "superstitious" or any other abstraction.  You can't be superstitious without abstractions any more than you can run electric machines without dynamos and volt meters.  

 

We are confused.  We are superstitious.  We believe we know everything.  We believe science runs on intelligence but this doesn't even exist. 

Put up or shut up. Either provide verifiable evidence that your claimed mutation occurred or admit you lied. Real simple! 
 

cormac

Edited November 1, 2023 by cormac mac airt

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, cladking said:

See previous post.

It’s useless. 
 

cormac

[Antigonos]

4 minutes ago, cladking said:

 

We are confused.  We are superstitious.  We believe we know everything.  We believe science runs on intelligence but this doesn't even exist. 

Deep breaths, Cladking.

Now, exactly how many people are speaking through you?

Edited November 1, 2023 by Antigonos

[cladking]

5 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Put up or shut up. Either provide verifiable evidence that your claimed mutation  occurred or admit you lied. Real simple! 

And this is invisible to you.

1140c. (he is dried) by the wind of the great Isis, together with (which) the great Isis dried (him) like Horus.
...
1146a. N. is the pouring down of rain; he came forth as the coming into being of water;
1146b. for he is the Nḥb-kȝ.w-serpent with the many coils;

You can't see where I asked you to tell me why osiris is interested in this.   You can't see where I listed several sources suggesting the language changed.  You can't see what you refuse to believe so you'll ignore this post and pretend I won't respond to you. 

You can't make a horse drink a dead king named "Osiris N".  But you want to beat the horse beyond death for not drinking.  

Edited November 1, 2023 by cladking

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, cladking said:

And this is invisible to you.

1140c. (he is dried) by the wind of the great Isis, together with (which) the great Isis dried (him) like Horus.
...
1146a. N. is the pouring down of rain; he came forth as the coming into being of water;
1146b. for he is the Nḥb-kȝ.w-serpent with the many coils;

You can't see where I asked you to tell me why osiris is interested in this.   You can't see where I listed several sources suggesting the language changed.  You can't see what you refuse to believe so you'll ignore this post and pretend I won't respond to you. 

You can't make a horse drink a dead king named "Osiris N".  But you want to beat the horse for not drinking.  

Put up or shut up. Either provide verifiable evidence that your claimed mutation occurred or admit you lied. Real simple!
 

cormac

[Antigonos]

24 minutes ago, cladking said:

You can't make a horse drink a dead king named "Osiris N".  

Ummm… yes… that is true. Did it take you 17 years to reach that conclusion?

24 minutes ago, cladking said:

  But you want to beat the horse beyond death for not drinking.  

What exactly is “beyond death” ? You mean like, re-animating the horse Lovecraft style to beat it some more? 

How can anyone doubt your genius with debating skills such as these in your arsenal.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Antigonos

[cormac mac airt]

I’m still waiting for CK to show valid evidence for his claimed mutation but he can’t as it never happened. 
 

cormac

[Kenemet]

1 hour ago, cladking said:

Every single person was homo sapien in 3200 BC and every single person was homo omnisciencis after 2000 BC.  In between it is likely that race, sex, and ethnicity had equal chances of not understanding Ancient Language.  You are reading things into this that simply don't exist. 

No... you're not considering the full implications of your poorly thought out concepts.

IF there was some sort of "universal language" that existed because of (you're saying) changes in the brain and after 1200 years then the ability to speak/understand that "universal language" has been lost, then...

* you have to explain how indigenous people like the Patagonians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia#History) got the new language given no demonstrable contact with anyone for a very long time.  And the Chinese.  And the Finns. 

* when you separate groups in a species by some trait, that's dividing them into "races" or "classes" and brings up the whole racist ball of wax ("we are better than you")

* when you create the idea of two "species" of humans (without actually knowing what makes something a species), then you are setting up the idea of "aliens" (magical, everywhere aliens in fact) and a "superior group" (the "aliens" whose language nobody can read).  Again, this is just racist.

*  And you have to explain why you (and only you by gosh) could learn/understand this and no other human can figure it out.  It implies that you have these alien genes, because if anyone can figure it out without having the alien genes... then you've just killed your own point right there.  That means the "language" couldn't be lost at any point in time because someone could always figure it out and therefore it wasn't an "alien"/"mutated human"/"new species".  And if you've "figured it out" because of some trait, that also means that our famed translators over the past 300 years have a good chance (at least 50%) of being able to read/speak your "language."

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How do people not have a problem with Egyptology that won't study the pyramids and won't publish results when it is done?????????????????????????????

Glancing at the papers, it seems that a lot of people have gotten the results.  They're not results that prove whatever it is you want to prove, however.

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How do people not care that the literal meaning of "osiris" and every other word in the PT is simply ignored?  

Possibly because your concepts are so far off from the evidence that no one finds them credible.

...and now that I think of it, I can't recall anyone who DOES think your ideas have any merit.

[Kenemet]

1 hour ago, cladking said:

So how did the builders of the great pyramids know about the hydraulic cycle and electricity??????????????   Aren't you the least bit curious how this can be or why Egyptology didn't see the words?  Why do you think I saw the words?  I'm the guy who doesn't even believe in intelligence and the only guy whom can see the words!!  

They didn't know about the hydraulic cycle and electricity.  There's no technology that they produced that show they ever had a working knowledge of either.