UFO’s: only two choices - Aliens or foreign power

[Unusual Tournament]

Aliens,’ or a foreign power? Pentagon UFO chief says someone is in our backyard

“According to AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick, alarming UFO activity in ‘our backyard’ can be attributed to one of two extraordinary sources: A foreign power or ‘aliens.’”

[Unusual Tournament]

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4301944-aliens-or-a-foreign-power-pentagon-ufo-chief-says-someone-is-in-our-backyard/

[Timothy]

Post should be titled ‘OPINION:…’ 

It’s a shame that nothing publicly available supports these claims of remarkable manoeuvres etc.:

‘Speaking to the Daily Mail, an intelligence source stated that there are “dozens” of unreleased videos recorded by surveillance drones, some of which show “orbs” conducting “remarkable [maneuvers], like suddenly bolt[ing] off the screen.” 

Moreover, multiple sensors have apparently observed “metallic orbs” and “translucent”spherical objects traveling at speeds ranging from “stationary to Mach 2,” or twice the speed of sound, with “no [detectable] thermal exhaust.” According to Kirkpatrick, the objects’ enigmatic flight characteristics amount to a unique UFO profile that his panel is “out hunting for.”’

Human factors / misidentification / misinterpretation of data is the more likely 3rd option.

Edited November 11 by Timothy
Typo.

[Alchopwn]

If Russia or Occupied West Taiwan had UFOs, they would have used them in a conflict by now.

[Unusual Tournament]

24 minutes ago, Alchopwn said:

If Russia or Occupied West Taiwan had UFOs, they would have used them in a conflict by now.

Absolutely. And used them to devastating effect since they toy with the best U.S. weapons America has to offer

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

If it was a foreign power that possessed such aircraft, America's spy network would have figured that much out by now, don't ya think? 

Think about it - the US had the nuclear bomb, and in short time, the Soviets were delivered the secret to it. Too hot to sit on, someone will give it up. 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

3 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Aliens,’ or a foreign power? Pentagon UFO chief says someone is in our backyard

“According to AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick, alarming UFO activity in ‘our backyard’ can be attributed to one of two extraordinary sources: A foreign power or ‘aliens.’”

here's the link

‘Aliens,’ or a foreign power? Pentagon UFO chief says someone is in our backyard | The Hill

Quote

To be sure, the ramifications of either would be significant. But Kirkpatrick’s comments, which come as he is about to retire after a 27-year defense and intelligence-focused career, are more intriguing because he also says that “none” of the hundreds of military UFO reports analyzed by his office recently “have been positively attributed to foreign activities.” 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

21 hours ago, Timothy said:

Post should be titled ‘OPINION:…’ 

It’s a shame that nothing publicly available supports these claims of remarkable manoeuvres etc.:

‘Speaking to the Daily Mail, an intelligence source stated that there are “dozens” of unreleased videos recorded by surveillance drones, some of which show “orbs” conducting “remarkable [maneuvers], like suddenly bolt[ing] off the screen.” 

Moreover, multiple sensors have apparently observed “metallic orbs” and “translucent”spherical objects traveling at speeds ranging from “stationary to Mach 2,” or twice the speed of sound, with “no [detectable] thermal exhaust.” According to Kirkpatrick, the objects’ enigmatic flight characteristics amount to a unique UFO profile that his panel is “out hunting for.”’

Human factors / misidentification / misinterpretation of data is the more likely 3rd option.

Actually the post should be titled ‘UFO disclosure is imminent’

…which should mean the best thing for you to do is quickly quit your job, stock up the pantry and wait for further instructions from our new overlords…

[Dejarma]

11 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Actually the post should be titled ‘UFO disclosure is imminent’

…which should mean the best thing for you to do is quickly quit your job, stock up the pantry and wait for further instructions from our new overlords…

i know (or i should say IMO i'm probably right) in a years time nothing would have changed... when i show you ^your words^ in a years time, will you concede? 

i've been typing in places like this for probable 30 years now.. the outcome is always the same when this question is put forward-- oh what fun, carry on 💤

[Dejarma]

22 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

According to AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick

who's now realized how stupid he's been has left the job-- Oh, that Sean Kirkpatrick.

Embarrassment can push you to the limits it seems

[Kenemet]

22 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Aliens,’ or a foreign power? Pentagon UFO chief says someone is in our backyard

“According to AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick, alarming UFO activity in ‘our backyard’ can be attributed to one of two extraordinary sources: A foreign power or ‘aliens.’”

Forgot "hoax" and "misidentification"

[Unusual Tournament]

2 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

Forgot "hoax" and "misidentification"

Okay. So how did you come to that?

[Kenemet]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

Okay. So how did you come to that?

Twenty plus years of reading various forums and follow-up news articles.

 

[Unusual Tournament]

Just now, Kenemet said:

Twenty plus years of reading various forums and follow-up news articles.

 

Surely you’re not saying your extensive research and news reading is more valuable than what AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick has been privy to?

[Dejarma]

2 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

Twenty plus years of reading various forums and follow-up news articles.

 

Yep, that sums it up for me😉

[Dejarma]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

Surely you’re not saying your extensive research and news reading is more valuable than what AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick has been privy to?

yeah, she/ he is... now what?

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

31 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Surely you’re not saying your extensive research and news reading is more valuable than what AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick has been privy to?

Good point, UT. 

AARO has access to many incidents that never get cited at offbeat forums, let alone MSM. And they have advanced tech to help AARO with their investigation.

Take the Northrop Grumman E-2 Hawkeye - Wikipedia. Beautiful craft. 

Yes. it obviously operates radar and IFF systems but does so much more than that , and of course, that info is kept quite secret. 
This craft was highlighted in the video "Go Fast". 

[Kenemet]

1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Surely you’re not saying your extensive research and news reading is more valuable than what AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick has been privy to?

It seems to me that he and I are looking at different data sets.

He's looking at ones that have passed through the hands of people who tossed out obvious misidentification and obvious hoaxes.  I'm looking at ones brought by the public.

HOWEVER, if he also dismisses those out of hand then he may still be subject to people who are passing along what they firmly believe to be correct data -- but who may be approaching it from their own biases.  Hoax and bad identification of a known object seen at a weird angle or distorted slightly) cannot be ruled out.

[Dejarma]

X AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick will be another Nick Pope.

Why do you think he left his job? Ton of cash to be earned on the good old: 'UFO/ now UAP, aliens on this planet' bandwagon..

I wish I could make this a sticky topic:

a prediction- X AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick will have a book out by this time next year/ tons of TV interviews/ documentaries/ lectures/ on The Joe Rogan Experience 10 times in the next 12 months etc etc

oh well, we'll see

[Unusual Tournament]

3 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

It seems to me that he and I are looking at different data sets.

He's looking at ones that have passed through the hands of people who tossed out obvious misidentification and obvious hoaxes.  I'm looking at ones brought by the public.

HOWEVER, if he also dismisses those out of hand then he may still be subject to people who are passing along what they firmly believe to be correct data -- but who may be approaching it from their own biases.  Hoax and bad identification of a known object seen at a weird angle or distorted slightly) cannot be ruled out.

AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick, is definitely higher up on the UFO tree than most so the data he sees is more accurate I’m guessing. 
 

But to dismiss or pre assume that his data set might/is faulty would suggest the airforce/navy/army and intelligence agencies have it wrong and social media and chat forums are closer to the truth. 
 

Nah, I’m going with AARO

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Nah, I’m going with AARO

would you buy his book?

[Unusual Tournament]

Just now, Dejarma said:

would you buy his book?

…why would I buy a book when I can get all the schooling o need right here?

[Dejarma]

2 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

…why would I buy a book when I can get all the schooling o need right here?

but his book would be the REAL truth wouldn't it? your indirect words, not mine mate

[Unusual Tournament]

Just now, Dejarma said:

but his book would be the REAL truth wouldn't it? your indirect words, not mine mate

Probably. Where are you going with this?

[Dejarma]

Just now, Unusual Tournament said:

Probably. Where are you going with this?

it's people like you that keep this phenom active by fueling it via buying books, paying to see a lecture etc