Chicago is so unpleasant migrants are fleeing BACK to Venezuela after being dumped in shelters

[+Link of Hyrule]

4 minutes ago, Doug1066 said:

 He already tried to overthrow the Constitution.  That was no joke.

YOU are the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.  He sure has you suckered.

Doug

He did no such thing. Again, thanks for the chat. 

[+Razman]

32 minutes ago, Doug1066 said:

Do you have any idea how many people it takes to make 11 million? 

11 million 

Edited November 16, 2023 by razman

[Doug1066]

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

 He already tried to overthrow the Constitution.

January 6, 2021.  He has been indicted for it.  Trial in the coming year.

Doug

Edited November 17, 2023 by Doug1066

[+Link of Hyrule]

8 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

January 6, 2021.  He has been indicted for it.  Trial in the coming year.

Doug

So guilty until proven innocent, then?

[Doug1066]

11 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

So guilty until proven innocent, then?

Trump has admitted his guilt in court - he can't keep his big mouth shut.  The trials are now little more than a formality needed for sentencing.

Doug

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-m-allowed-to-do-it-trump-admits-guilt-in-classified-documents-case/ss-AA1gvAoT

https://www.newsweek.com/glenn-kirschner-says-former-president-donald-trump-admitted-two-crimes-recent-social-media-post-1763181

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-admitted-guilt-again/

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-admission-guilt/

There are dozens of these.  Learn to use Google.

Doug

Edited November 17, 2023 by Doug1066

[+Link of Hyrule]

Just now, Doug1066 said:

Trump has admitted his guilt in court - he can't keep his big mouth shut.  The trials are now little more than a formality needed for sentencing.

Doug

OK, mate,  we'll clearly never agree.   Thanks for the chat. 

[+Link of Hyrule]

2 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

Trump has admitted his guilt in court - he can't keep his big mouth shut.  The trials are now little more than a formality needed for sentencing.

Doug

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-m-allowed-to-do-it-trump-admits-guilt-in-classified-documents-case/ss-AA1gvAoT

https://www.newsweek.com/glenn-kirschner-says-former-president-donald-trump-admitted-two-crimes-recent-social-media-post-1763181

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-admitted-guilt-again/

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-admission-guilt/

There are dozens of these.  Learn to use Google.

Doug

I noticed you edited in some links to this post.  So you're aware,  precisely zero of them back up your assertions about January 6!

He's basically guilty on the documents case. There's also a reason that when they released that particular indictment it's the only indictment that didn't lead to a surge in both the polls and the betting markets! I've been keeping tabs on both,  there's a spike in Trump support after every indictment except the classified documents! Clearly the people know the difference between a legitimate case and a witch hunt. 

Arguably this is the democrats plan.  Biden has zero chance against anyone but Trump.  After November 2020, Trump made himself unelectable imo,  and yet here we are in November 2023 and Trump is the $2.40 favourite ahead of Biden at $3.20. But the polls look even worse for Biden against anyone else, Trump is literally the democrats best hope of winning,  it is a sign of how bad Biden is that he losing against Trump. Biden's only hope is that at least some of the indictments get a guilty verdict before the election,  that may sway public opinion against Trump, but without such a verdict it's looking like another for years of Orange Man Bad!

Edited November 18, 2023 by Paranoid Android
Grammar

[+DieChecker]

On 11/16/2023 at 5:48 AM, Doug1066 said:

Try North Dakota.  The Bakken is booming.  If you can get there, there's a job for you.

Doug

I might be moving to N Dakota...

Father in law probably getting a job offer as a pastor there. And extended family looking to move from hyper-liberal area of Oregon.

I might end up being Truck-Checker soon. Or Tractor-Checker. Because they have a big tractor plant in Bismark from what I hear. Or maybe a nice Remove FedGov job. Doc-Checker?

[Gromdor]

1 hour ago, DieChecker said:

I might be moving to N Dakota...

Father in law probably getting a job offer as a pastor there. And extended family looking to move from hyper-liberal area of Oregon.

I might end up being Truck-Checker soon. Or Tractor-Checker. Because they have a big tractor plant in Bismark from what I hear. Or maybe a nice Remove FedGov job. Doc-Checker?

We did a gasification plant there.  There were some issues, like working homeless- people had jobs because of the boom but there was no housing available.  The stores all closed early too.  Drove for dang near 50 miles just trying to get gas.  It's a big culture shock.  It made Iowa look like a bustling metroloplis (North Dakota has a population of 780,000.)  Fargo, Bismark, (Why not) Minot (Freezin the reason), and Grand Forks are about the only decent sized towns.

Do you like hunting, fishing and other outdoor stuff?  North Dakota is great for that.  

[+and-then]

On 11/16/2023 at 4:52 PM, Paranoid Android said:

He did no such thing. Again, thanks for the chat. 

It's kind of creepy to see just how unamenable to truth or even logic, these Trump haters have become.  I have no doubt at all that Doug TRULY BELIEVES everything he says about Orange Man Bad.  Yeah, creepy...

[+DieChecker]

2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

We did a gasification plant there.  There were some issues, like working homeless- people had jobs because of the boom but there was no housing available.  The stores all closed early too.  Drove for dang near 50 miles just trying to get gas.  It's a big culture shock.  It made Iowa look like a bustling metroloplis (North Dakota has a population of 780,000.)  Fargo, Bismark, (Why not) Minot (Freezin the reason), and Grand Forks are about the only decent sized towns.

Do you like hunting, fishing and other outdoor stuff?  North Dakota is great for that.  

Specifically we'd be looking at Bismark. I grew up in the country, and like being outdoors. Army broke me from tent camping though... Fishing is a maybe. Hunting is a maybe. Used to, but not anymore.

Now I mostly do dishes, laundry, trash, bills, laundry, dishes, vacuum, dishes, and get the mail. Then out the three year old to bed at 9, and do UM for a bit, watch a video, then sleep and repeat. My sister-in-law, her husband, and their two kids live in our downstairs (daylight basement), and they're in their 20s and "forget" to do their share of chores all the time. So 6 kids, and 4 adults. Busy busy...

[+DieChecker]

57 minutes ago, and-then said:

It's kind of creepy to see just how unamenable to truth or even logic, these Trump haters have become.  I have no doubt at all that Doug TRULY BELIEVES everything he says about Orange Man Bad.  Yeah, creepy...

Orange Man is kinda bad. But sometimes a bad man is better then a worthless man.

[Doug1066]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:01 PM, Paranoid Android said:

I noticed you edited in some links to this post.  So you're aware,  precisely zero of them back up your assertions about January 6!

The judge in the Colorado Ballot trial issued a finding of fact that Donald Trump incited the J6 insurrection.  We now have three state court and one Federal Court finding that it was an insurrection and in the Federal case, that Donald Trump was involved.  That's where the legal situation stands at the moment.

Donald has been Trumpeting that as a win, but maybe he shouldn't:  the judge declined to rule on whether the Fourteenth Amendment includes the President as an officer barred from seeking office, setting up an appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court.  Whoever wins that one, the other side will appeal to the US Supreme Court.  Constitutional attorneys are lining up to take the case.

If several other states join the case, the Supreme Court will be asked for a nation-wide ruling.  Of course we don't know what the court will do, considering that three are Trump's hand-picked appointees and the court has been doing some questionable things lately.

At any rate, should that decision go against Trump and he loses the election interference trials, his only choice will be start another insurrection or go to prison for life.  Of course, he might be able to get Putin to take him, but Putin doesn't have much use for losers.

Doug

[itsnotoutthere]

 

[Doug1066]

On 11/17/2023 at 6:01 PM, Paranoid Android said:

I noticed you edited in some links to this post.  So you're aware,  precisely zero of them back up your assertions about January 6!

OK, so a couple of these were out of court.  Still, Trump's confession is useable against him.  His goose is cooked.

Stormy Daniels case:  unlikely Trump will get prison time over this and the fine will be well within his means - this is little more than a nuisance case for him.

E. Jean Carroll suit:  Trump is likely to lose a few more million here.  He could settle this one out of court and it would just go away, but his ego won't let him do that.

New York fraud suit:  Trump has already been found guilty of fraud.  The trial is in the penalty phase.  The penalty will be in the millions, maybe up to $250 million and the dissolution of his companies.  If he didn't have so much ego involved, he could just take bankruptcy - bankruptcy is survivable.  No prison time here.

Mar-a-Lago case:  judge is slow-walking the case as a favor to Trump.  It will conclude after the election, so it's pretty much irrelevant.

Georgia and Washington election interference cases:  these are the big ones.  Lawyers saying he will lose; shooting his mouth off has all but sealed his fate.

 

Trump will lose in court.  His only hope is to start that revolution soon.

Doug

[Doug1066]

On 11/17/2023 at 9:24 PM, DieChecker said:

I might be moving to N Dakota...

Father in law probably getting a job offer as a pastor there. And extended family looking to move from hyper-liberal area of Oregon.

I might end up being Truck-Checker soon. Or Tractor-Checker. Because they have a big tractor plant in Bismark from what I hear. Or maybe a nice Remove FedGov job. Doc-Checker?

My daughter was a mud-logger on the Bakken for about a year.  She couldn't wait to get out of there.

Doug

[Gromdor]

On 11/18/2023 at 12:51 AM, DieChecker said:

Specifically we'd be looking at Bismark. I grew up in the country, and like being outdoors. Army broke me from tent camping though... Fishing is a maybe. Hunting is a maybe. Used to, but not anymore.

Now I mostly do dishes, laundry, trash, bills, laundry, dishes, vacuum, dishes, and get the mail. Then out the three year old to bed at 9, and do UM for a bit, watch a video, then sleep and repeat. My sister-in-law, her husband, and their two kids live in our downstairs (daylight basement), and they're in their 20s and "forget" to do their share of chores all the time. So 6 kids, and 4 adults. Busy busy...

I don't think Bismark would be that bad.  It is decent sized enough to have some of the things that people have lived in more populated areas take for granted- like gaming groups for Warhammer and Walmart.  If I recall North Dakota was a Kroger grocery area.  (Around here it is HyVee and I remember Oregon being Safeway).

Edited November 20, 2023 by Gromdor

[+Link of Hyrule]

10 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

The judge in the Colorado Ballot trial issued a finding of fact that Donald Trump incited the J6 insurrection.  We now have three state court and one Federal Court finding that it was an insurrection and in the Federal case, that Donald Trump was involved.  That's where the legal situation stands at the moment.

Donald has been Trumpeting that as a win, but maybe he shouldn't:  the judge declined to rule on whether the Fourteenth Amendment includes the President as an officer barred from seeking office, setting up an appeal to the Colorado Supreme Court.  Whoever wins that one, the other side will appeal to the US Supreme Court.  Constitutional attorneys are lining up to take the case.

If several other states join the case, the Supreme Court will be asked for a nation-wide ruling.  Of course we don't know what the court will do, considering that three are Trump's hand-picked appointees and the court has been doing some questionable things lately.

At any rate, should that decision go against Trump and he loses the election interference trials, his only choice will be start another insurrection or go to prison for life.  Of course, he might be able to get Putin to take him, but Putin doesn't have much use for losers.

Doug

I really don't care what a democrat judge writes as an OPINION in a suit. Judges are unfortunately just as much prone to being misled by the media as everyone else. 

I will promise you one thing for certain, though - whatever happens it will NOT be "another insurrection or (Trump) go(ing) to prison for life". I can guarantee you that both these outcomes will not happen! I appreciate this happening would validate everything you believe about Trump, but sadly for you I don't see it happening (I mean, I don't believe there was a first insurrection for there to be "another" one, but even if we pretend there was one in 2020, there won't be one in 2024). 

We'll see what happens.

10 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

OK, so a couple of these were out of court.  Still, Trump's confession is useable against him.  His goose is cooked.

Stormy Daniels case:  unlikely Trump will get prison time over this and the fine will be well within his means - this is little more than a nuisance case for him.

E. Jean Carroll suit:  Trump is likely to lose a few more million here.  He could settle this one out of court and it would just go away, but his ego won't let him do that.

New York fraud suit:  Trump has already been found guilty of fraud.  The trial is in the penalty phase.  The penalty will be in the millions, maybe up to $250 million and the dissolution of his companies.  If he didn't have so much ego involved, he could just take bankruptcy - bankruptcy is survivable.  No prison time here.

Mar-a-Lago case:  judge is slow-walking the case as a favor to Trump.  It will conclude after the election, so it's pretty much irrelevant.

Georgia and Washington election interference cases:  these are the big ones.  Lawyers saying he will lose; shooting his mouth off has all but sealed his fate.

 

Trump will lose in court.  His only hope is to start that revolution soon.

Doug

Funny that the only case that didn't lead to a spike in Trump support (the actual legitimate Mar-a-Lago documents case) is the only case that you have claimed the judge is "slow-walking" it. Assuming you're comments are accurate on this, I find it interesting that they're only pushing the cases that were dodgy as heck and that caused impartial viewers to turn to Trump in droves because they can see the witch hunt with every dodgy news headline. 

Honestly, the only shot the democrats have is the hope that 1-2 of these cases go to trial and Trump is found guilty (which appears likely, even if the case is likely to be overturned on appeal).  Short of that, it appears as if Trump will win a landslide (which is scary considering I ran a line through Trump as "unelectable" in November 2020 after he threw his toys out of the election pram, it's a sign of how bad Biden is going that Trump is even in the discussion - back when he announced his presidency, Trump was the outsider to even be the Republican candidate, let alone the winner of the whole shebang). 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Paranoid Android

[+DieChecker]

17 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

OK, so a couple of these were out of court.  Still, Trump's confession is useable against him.  His goose is cooked.

Stormy Daniels case:  unlikely Trump will get prison time over this and the fine will be well within his means - this is little more than a nuisance case for him.

E. Jean Carroll suit:  Trump is likely to lose a few more million here.  He could settle this one out of court and it would just go away, but his ego won't let him do that.

New York fraud suit:  Trump has already been found guilty of fraud.  The trial is in the penalty phase.  The penalty will be in the millions, maybe up to $250 million and the dissolution of his companies.  If he didn't have so much ego involved, he could just take bankruptcy - bankruptcy is survivable.  No prison time here.

Mar-a-Lago case:  judge is slow-walking the case as a favor to Trump.  It will conclude after the election, so it's pretty much irrelevant.

Georgia and Washington election interference cases:  these are the big ones.  Lawyers saying he will lose; shooting his mouth off has all but sealed his fate.

 

Trump will lose in court.  His only hope is to start that revolution soon.

Doug

I think part of it is like in 2016, when Trump was everywhere on TV and the news. Lots of "bad publicity" stories, bit I kind of agree with HRC in her AAR ( After Action Review), in that all the arrives just turned into Free Publicity. 

The more screen time he gets. The more he likes it, and the more popular he gets.

[+DieChecker]

17 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

My daughter was a mud-logger on the Bakken for about a year.  She couldn't wait to get out of there.

Doug

I've heard it's not the place for anyone who follows what would be called "progressive thinking". It's like a little hideout for the 1950s.

[Doug1066]

13 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

I really don't care what a democrat judge writes as an OPINION in a suit.

Nevertheless, that is a finding of fact and the courts will act on it as true.  Your OPINION isn't worth spit in this matter.

 

Trump may not go to "prison," but incarceration is certainly a possibility.  There would be a problem with his secret service detail - where can they stay so they can protect him?  That could be a reason for him not going to "prison."  But we do have country club prisons.  He might end up there.

I have no doubt that he will be convicted.  After that, things get a little iffy.

Doug

 

[Doug1066]

6 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I've heard it's not the place for anyone who follows what would be called "progressive thinking". It's like a little hideout for the 1950s.

What she hated was the 30-below temps and staying at a well pad 90 miles from her apartment.

Doug

[Myles]

9 hours ago, DieChecker said:

I've heard it's not the place for anyone who follows what would be called "progressive thinking". It's like a little hideout for the 1950s.

I think you would make it acceptable.   If you enjoy the outdoors, there is plenty to do.  You will not be without much and have more of what others want.  Enjoy.  

[Doug1066]

On 11/18/2023 at 12:51 AM, DieChecker said:

Fishing is a maybe. Hunting is a maybe. Used to, but not anymore.

My daughter had a close encounter with a buffalo up there.  He got away.  Maybe you can get him.

Maybe I should say SHE got away.

Doug

[+Link of Hyrule]

8 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

Nevertheless, that is a finding of fact and the courts will act on it as true.  Your OPINION isn't worth spit in this matter.

I guarantee you any charge brought as a result of a judge's opinion in dismissing a case will lose on appeal. Even if the courts "act on it as true", the appeal will demonstrate it for the witch hunt it is. 

 

8 hours ago, Doug1066 said:

Trump may not go to "prison," but incarceration is certainly a possibility.  There would be a problem with his secret service detail - where can they stay so they can protect him?  That could be a reason for him not going to "prison."  But we do have country club prisons.  He might end up there.

I have no doubt that he will be convicted.  After that, things get a little iffy.

Doug

 

We shall have to disagree. I'm not saying he won't get any prison time (or incarceration, you may be right that he won't find a place in a proper prison). In fact I have no doubt he will be convicted. However, your assertion was that he would spend "life" in prison. A life sentence in legal terms is an unspecified lengthy stint that is usually longer than the maximum sentence for most other crimes (ie, minimum 25 years). From here the time in prison is up to a parole board. 

Unless you're argument is that he'll spend the remainder of his "natural life" in prison, in which case you're banking on Trump dying in the next few years, because even if he does get a short prison sentence life expectancy outcomes suggest that any conviction will be served long before Trump passes on (he's not as old as Joe Biden, after all). 

If Trump is found guilty on every single case and given the maximum penalty possible in every single case Trump will spend about 700 years in prison, according to one source I read. That's probably where you get your conspiracy that he'll spend life in prison. However, maximum sentences are almost NEVER instituted, and I guarantee you he won't get anywhere near the maximum sentence in any of the cases. And he certainly won't be given a term that will keep him in for "life" (unless he dies in the next 1-2 years).  

Either way, it's wishful thinking on your part to hope that Trump gets more than a slap on the wrist (that's literally best case scenario for you). 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Paranoid Android