Police Evacuate Congress from Violent Pro-Hamas Riot

[Michelle]

A violent pro-Hamas protest led to the evacuation of Congress members from the area near the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

The protest began on Capitol grounds and then moved to the DNC HQ, resulting in police intervention to prevent the protesters from entering the building.

“Right now our officers are working to keep back approximately 150 people who are illegally and violently protesting in the area of Canal Street and Ivy Street, SE. Officers are making arrests. All Members have been evacuated from the area. Please stay away from the area,” the Capitol Police stated.

“My husband, newborn, and I are in my office in the Capitol — which just went into lockdown because of these uncontrolled protestors. I bet you won’t hear a word about this from the media,” said Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL).

Several Congress members and staff were safely evacuated, and Capitol Police reported six officers injured and one arrest made during the incident.

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Police Evacuate Congress from Violent Pro-Hamas Riot (msn.com)

[Hawken]

I wonder if any of those protestors will go to prison just like the J6 protestors did. I'll be watching.

[+and-then]

2 hours ago, Hawken said:

I wonder if any of those protestors will go to prison just like the J6 protestors did. I'll be watching.

Speaking of those protesters, many of them tried to argue that they were escorted into the Capitol by the cops and therefore there had been no expectation of illegality.  They were convicted anyway and more often than not were subjected to HEAVY sanction.  New video of that day is being seen now thanks to the new RINO speaker -

 

Edited November 19 by and-then

[WVK]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

I wonder if any of those protestors will go to prison just like the J6 protestors did. I'll be watching.

Well protesting on behalf of Hamas is one thing, protesting on behalf of Trump is quite another…….

[Hawken]

9 minutes ago, WVK said:

Well protesting on behalf of Hamas is one thing, protesting on behalf of Trump is quite another…….

Certainly, never mind the Hamas for beheading women and children. Get the Orange Man for posting mean tweets.

[Raptor Witness]

1 hour ago, WVK said:

Well protesting on behalf of Hamas is one thing, protesting on behalf of Trump is quite another…….

I don’t think it’s on behalf of Hamas per se. It’s a pro Palestinian message.

I can’t imagine human beings with any degree of education, having sympathy for Hamas.

I’m worried for Israel, because I think the younger generation is ignorant of the importance of Israel as an ally.

Israel is making a dangerous error, by ignoring the sensitivity of killing so many civilians. They seem to think that because they have nuclear weapons, they don’t need to abide by the rules of war.

This puts the United States in an ever-increasing bad light. 

[WVK]

8 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

I don’t think it’s on behalf of Hamas per se. It’s a pro Palestinian message.

I can’t imagine human beings with any degree of education, having sympathy for Hamas.

I’m worried for Israel, because I think the younger generation is ignorant of the importance of Israel as an ally.

Israel is making a dangerous error, by ignoring the sensitivity of killing so many civilians. They seem to think that because they have nuclear weapons, they don’t need to abide by the rules of war.

This puts the United States in an ever-increasing bad light. 

I was being mildly sarcastic but yes I would agree with this 

[Raptor Witness]

6 hours ago, WVK said:

I was being mildly sarcastic but yes I would agree with this 

I understand, but this is the most dangerous situation that I have seen in many years, because genocide is being performed in the name of Israel.

Let’s be clear, these are war crimes that we are seeing, on both sides of the conflict, but U.S. made weapons are being used to commit genocide, on one of those sides.

If Israel didn’t feel over confident, they wouldn’t be doing this in the way they’re doing it.

Before this is over, there will be thousands of dead children, and I can’t comprehend this, especially in a modern world, where everyone, rich and poor, has a digital phone to see for themselves. 

The simple truth is, Israel could have moved slower, and more carefully. This is the real reason we are seeing mass protests in the United States. Some people have a conscience, and they know the danger.

I fully expect that once this operation is complete, and Gaza is subjugated, Israel will turn and attack Iran, simply because nuclear proliferation will be a given. I won’t guess what happens as a result of that war, but it’s not hard to imagine.

Proxy wars are just a forest fire, smoldering, in a region that is easily the most combustible place on earth. There is no room for genocidal mania, on either side.

[WVK]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

The simple truth is, Israel could have moved slower, and more carefully. This is the real reason we are seeing mass protests in the United States. Some people have a conscience, and they know the danger

Where were these protesters when the United States and it’s allies killed +- 300,000 Iraqis for no reason?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

or 46,000 civilians in Afghanistan?

[Setton]

On 11/18/2023 at 9:20 PM, Michelle said:

A violent pro-Hamas protest led to the evacuation of Congress members from the area near the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

What makes you say they're pro-Hamas protestors Michelle?

From the placards, they appear to just be calling for a ceasefire, like many pro-Palestinian protestors around the world.

Caveat that I haven't watched with sound but genuinely curious what makes them pro-Hamas.

[+Hammerclaw]

33 minutes ago, WVK said:

Where were these protesters when the United States and it’s allies killed +- 300,000 Iraqis for no reason?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

or 46,000 civilians in Afghanistan?

Apparently, small countries aren't allowed the same license for collateral damage as are great powers.

[DarkHunter]

1 hour ago, WVK said:

Where were these protesters when the United States and it’s allies killed +- 300,000 Iraqis for no reason?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

or 46,000 civilians in Afghanistan?

That is all extremely misleading, boarding on outright dishonesty.

From your own link

"However, we know that between 280,771-315,190 have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through March 2023"

You conveniently leave out how Iraqi military, Iraqi police, and opposition forces contribute to the approximate 300,000 dead Iraqi civilians.  The reality is the majority of the civilians killed in Iraq died from the sectarian violence between the Sunni and Shia groups in Iraq after Saddam was disposed.  Blaming America directly for the sectarian violence that occured doesn't really work.  America made mistakes during the occupation such as completely disbanding the Iraqi military and not letting in former soldiers into the reformed Iraqi military or believing that Iraq would just form a liberal democratic country and respect human rights but America wasn't like Iran who actively armed and aided certain militant sectarian groups to expand their influence in the area.

[Setton]

1 hour ago, WVK said:

Where were these protesters when the United States and it’s allies killed +- 300,000 Iraqis for no reason?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

or 46,000 civilians in Afghanistan?

There's a huge difference between starting a chain of events that indirectly led to so many deaths based on bad information and intentionally attacking civilians.

[WVK]

29 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

That is all extremely misleading, boarding on outright dishonesty.

From your own link

"However, we know that between 280,771-315,190 have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through March 2023"

You conveniently leave out how Iraqi military, Iraqi police, and opposition forces contribute to the approximate 300,000 dead Iraqi civilians.  The reality is the majority of the civilians killed in Iraq died from the sectarian violence between the Sunni and Shia groups in Iraq after Saddam was disposed.  Blaming America directly for the sectarian violence that occured doesn't really work.  America made mistakes during the occupation such as completely disbanding the Iraqi military and not letting in former soldiers into the reformed Iraqi military or believing that Iraq would just form a liberal democratic country and respect human rights but America wasn't like Iran who actively armed and aided certain militant sectarian groups to expand their influence in the area.

Fair enough, I was attempting to pointi out the lack of outrage over civilian death like we are seeing about Gaza, I wasn’t intending to blame America. BUt, as you point out, different situations.

[Gromdor]

3 minutes ago, WVK said:

Fair enough, I was attempting to pointi out the lack of outrage over civilian death like we are seeing about Gaza, I wasn’t intending to blame America. BUt, as you point out, different situations.

We had protests, Protests against the Iraq War - Wikipedia

I think the fatigue, frustration at civillian deaths, and the disillusionment of the righteousness of the wars from then being carried over is what is driving this current protest.  

[+Paranoid Android]

22 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Israel is making a dangerous error, by ignoring the sensitivity of killing so many civilians. They seem to think that because they have nuclear weapons, they don’t need to abide by the rules of war.

This puts the United States in an ever-increasing bad light. 

Hamas are the ones who are stockpiling weapons in hospitals and setting up bases of operations right in the middle of civilians. Then Israel drops thousands and thousands of letters over areas that are going to be bombed to warn people to leave. Hamas tells them to stay and uses them as human shields.

It's a ****ty situation all round, don't get me wrong, so me saying this isn't trying to say that this is an easy situation to discuss. But Hamas carried out terrorist attacks against Israel, killing more Jews in a single event than any time since the Holocaust, and then runs and hides amidst civilian populations. Israel should not let Hamas get away with the murder of thousands just because they are using human shields, all that will do is send the message that with enough human shields Israel won't stand up for itself.

Make no mistake, it is Israel that is showing respect to civilian life and Hamas that is showing they don't care about civilians, so it's quite jarring to see this being painted as Israel being the problem and not Hamas. 

 

[Raptor Witness]

7 hours ago, WVK said:

Where were these protesters when the United States and it’s allies killed +- 300,000 Iraqis for no reason?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

or 46,000 civilians in Afghanistan?

They were clearly lied to, by the FCC licensed media apparatus.

I protested, publicly, even giving a speech, along with others in a local park, and the local police filmed it, in a clear attempt at intimidation. It didn’t work.

I can’t speak for others.

[Raptor Witness]

2 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

Israel should not let Hamas get away with the murder of thousands just because they are using human shields, all that will do is send the message that with enough human shields Israel won't stand up for itself.

Genocide isn’t a deterrent, for a past, present, or future genocide, mostly perpetrated by Germans.

The bigger message this sends, is that Israel can’t be trusted with a nuclear weapons program, any more than Iran.

[+and-then]

On 11/18/2023 at 9:58 PM, Raptor Witness said:

I’m worried for Israel, because I think the younger generation is ignorant of the importance of Israel as an ally.

Scripture makes it clear what lies ahead for Israel.  The only question is when it will come.  Israel is said to be surrounded by enemies during the last days and they will have NO allies who will come to their aid.  That's why I don't believe this particular fight will be that battle.  I'm thinking this is the pieces being assembled for the Ezekiel 38/39 conflict.  The foes will be Persia (Iran), Cush (Ethiopia), Phut (Libya), Gomer/Togarmah (Turkey) and several other Islamic nations from the Caucasus area.  Most scholars think Gog will be Russia but I think it's also possible that it will be Turkey's leader.

Israel may well destroy Hamas, the Hizballah, and Iran utterly during this current conflict.  That would set the stage for the nation to be at peace within the region.  Who knows?  But one certainty is that if they knuckle under to Obama and his puppet this time, the next Islamist attack will be more catastrophic than anything they've faced since the concentration camps.

[+and-then]

On 11/18/2023 at 9:58 PM, Raptor Witness said:

they don’t need to abide by the rules of war.

Care to cite the pertinent convention they have disregarded?  By law, they actually could bomb the hospitals themselves with the level of proof they have of how Hamas is using those facilities.  IMO, they should stay inside Shifa and document every weapon, all other videos, and use robots to explore the tunnel access they find inside the buildings.  If the world ignores the evidence, so be it.  There are plenty of haters out there that are already sayng all of the evidence they've shown was manufactured.  People like that will never acknowledge evidence so screw them.

[+and-then]

9 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

If Israel didn’t feel over confident, they wouldn’t be doing this in the way they’re doing it.

Overconfident?  The word you're searching for is RAGE.   The reality is that this time the world reverted to form within a few days and are blaming Israel for not bending over to accommodate the haters.  No nation is going to come at Israel at this point and they need to finish the job.  EVERY death of a civilian is the responsibility of the demons that knowingly set this off.  That isn't just Hamas, it's the demonic mullahs in Tehran as well.  If the world wants to come at Israel now, let them.  

[Raptor Witness]

6 minutes ago, and-then said:

Israel is said to be surrounded by enemies during the last days and they will have NO allies who will come to their aid.  That's why I don't believe this particular fight will be that battle.

Aren’t you forgetting the false peacemaker? 

[+and-then]

17 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

The bigger message this sends, is that Israel can’t be trusted with a nuclear weapons program, any more than Iran.

Yeah?  In case you hadn't noticed this time around Israel has finally had enough of your kind of assessments of what THEY owe to their enemies regarding how many Jews are allowed to be slaughtered.  If the world leaders are sane at all, they'd best back the hell off and stay out of the way regarding coming at Israel about their nukes.  Hamas acted on Iran's orders and Iran needs to also pay a heavy price.  If Israel stops NOW, they're just giving their enemies more time to tighten the noose.

[+and-then]

4 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

Aren’t you forgetting the false peacemaker? 

Not at all.  Ezekiel 38/39 is NOT "Armageddon".  THAT war happens after Israel has survived an attack and is living at peace in the land.  The treaty that they sign with "many" is for 7 years.  THAT is the final seven.

Edited November 20 by and-then

[+Paranoid Android]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

Genocide isn’t a deterrent, for a past, present, or future genocide, mostly perpetrated by Germans.

The bigger message this sends, is that Israel can’t be trusted with a nuclear weapons program, any more than Iran.

Whether Israel should have a nuclear program is beyond my purview to answer.  And short of Israel nuking Hamas it's not relevant to the response Israel makes to ensure a terrorist attack like October 7 doesn't happen again.  Sadly, Hamas is unlikely to surrender,  and so this response is necessary. I'd argue it's justified considering Hamas intentionally sets up base in hospitals and the like,  but this is probably better off being argued in a different thread lest we take away from the OP. Thanks for the chat.