qxcontinuum Posted November 19, 2023 #1 Share Posted November 19, 2023 https://intechbearing.com/blogs/news/getting-closer-to-element-115 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted November 19, 2023 #2 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Interesting. So, was Lazar right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Waspie_Dwarf Posted November 19, 2023 Popular Post #3 Share Posted November 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: Interesting. So, was Lazar right? Not even close. Predicting the existence of element 115 is on a par with predicting the existence of the number 115. If you know how numbers work you will know that the number 115 is inevitable. The same thing of you know how elements work. The trick with elements is to know what the properties of the, as yet undiscovered, element will be. So did Lazar get it right? Not according to the article qxcontinuum has linked to. It says: Quote However, the scientific version of ‘Element 115’ drastically differs from what Lazar has described over the years, since according to reports, the element decays in less than a second and cannot be utilized for anything. Rather than this being evidence for Lazar being correct, as it stands, it is evidence of him being totally wrong. 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted November 19, 2023 #4 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Waspie_Dwarf said: However, the scientific version of ‘Element 115’ drastically differs from what Lazar has described over the years, since according to reports, the element decays in less than a second and cannot be utilized for anything. Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 19, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Portre said: Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. Exactly how I wanted to respond Waspie. It is noticeable that the mentioning of element 115 was a statement made by Lazar not a prediction. The fact it was indeed discovered some 10 years later, gives Lazar more credibility of his claims to have seen alien technologies. Further more, there are now fresh observations made by observers, giving credit to Lazars' former depiction of ufos propulsion and angles of navigation during acceleration. This was observed in the tic tac ufos . There are two versions of the true; Either tic tac ufos were indeed extraterrestrial, or USA had reverse that alien tehnology and is capable of building crafts. Ain't smoke withouth fire that's for sure. We now know that billions of dollars were invested in ufo related reserch, claims taken seriously as well documentation written on how to report it. It's all coming out steadily but surely. Edited November 19, 2023 by qxcontinuum 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted November 19, 2023 #6 Share Posted November 19, 2023 3 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: Exactly how I wanted to respond Waspie. It is noticeable that the mentioning of element 115 was a statement made by Lazar not a prediction. If you paid attention in chemistry, you knew that 115 was possible once they got to the transuranium elements. Lazar made some statements about it and its properties that turned out to be completely wrong. It was discovered in 2004 by Russian scientists, so its discovery is now 20 years old. Quote There are two versions of the true; Either tic tac ufos were indeed extraterrestrial, or USA had reverse that alien tehnology and is capable of building crafts. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 19, 2023 #7 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, Portre said: Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. It doesn't work that way. A element is stable and usable. Or isn't. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted November 19, 2023 #8 Share Posted November 19, 2023 4 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: Exactly how I wanted to respond Waspie. It is noticeable that the mentioning of element 115 was a statement made by Lazar not a prediction. The fact it was indeed discovered some 10 years later, gives Lazar more credibility of his claims to have seen alien technologies. Moscovium (element 115) was first created in experiments conducted in 2003 (the results announced in 2004). When did Lazar first mention it? https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/element/Moscovium#section=History 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted November 19, 2023 #9 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: The fact it was indeed discovered some 10 years later, gives Lazar more credibility of his claims to have seen alien technologies. Use your brain here, anyone familiar with basic chemistry can invent new fictional elements. Synthetic elements were predicted long before Lazar was even born. Edited November 19, 2023 by Rlyeh 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 19, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Essan said: Moscovium (element 115) was first created in experiments conducted in 2003 (the results announced in 2004). When did Lazar first mention it? https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/element/Moscovium#section=History Like I said: 10 years before... "Element 115 was already announced in 1989 when Bob Lazar, famous area 51 whistleblower revealed to the public that the UFOs possessed by the government were powered by a mysterious ‘Element" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 19, 2023 Author #11 Share Posted November 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Piney said: It doesn't work that way. A element is stable and usable. Or isn't. An element less stable can become stable once it interacts with other elements. fluorine, a highly reactive and unstable element. When it reacts with another element, such as sodium, they form sodium fluoride (NaF), which is a more stable compound than isolated fluorine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Piney Posted November 19, 2023 Popular Post #12 Share Posted November 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: An element less stable can become stable once it interacts with other elements. fluorine, a highly reactive and unstable element. When it reacts with another element, such as sodium, they form sodium fluoride (NaF), which is a more stable compound than isolated fluorine. Then it's no longer a element. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted November 19, 2023 #13 Share Posted November 19, 2023 11 hours ago, Portre said: Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted November 19, 2023 #14 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Piney said: It doesn't work that way. A element is stable and usable. Or isn't. There are five main isotopes of moscovium. "Although the known isotopes of moscovium do not actually have enough neutrons to be on the island of stability, they can be seen to approach the island as in general, the heavier isotopes are the longer-lived ones." Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted November 19, 2023 #15 Share Posted November 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Portre said: There are five main isotopes of moscovium. "Although the known isotopes of moscovium do not actually have enough neutrons to be on the island of stability, they can be seen to approach the island as in general, the heavier isotopes are the longer-lived ones." Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. I stand corrected. But it doesn't negate the fact that Lazar is completely full of ****. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted November 19, 2023 #16 Share Posted November 19, 2023 6 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: fluorine, a highly reactive and unstable element. When it reacts with another element, such as sodium, they form sodium fluoride (NaF), which is a more stable compound than isolated fluorine. Fluorine is a perfectly stable element. A fluorine atom will remain a fluorine atom forever. Every isotope of moscovium will quickly decay to nihonium and there's nothing you can do about it. You don't know what "stable" means. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted November 19, 2023 #17 Share Posted November 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Portre said: There are five main isotopes of moscovium. "Although the known isotopes of moscovium do not actually have enough neutrons to be on the island of stability, they can be seen to approach the island as in general, the heavier isotopes are the longer-lived ones." Or humans haven't been able to create the stable form of element 115, yet. It's not possible to create a stable radioactive isotope. They will all decay eventually. "Island of Stability" is a euphemistic term meaning you can cram neutrons into an atom to make it decay more slowly but it is not stable and never will be. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 19, 2023 Author #18 Share Posted November 19, 2023 1 hour ago, astrobeing said: Fluorine is a perfectly stable element. A fluorine atom will remain a fluorine atom forever. Every isotope of moscovium will quickly decay to nihonium and there's nothing you can do about it. You don't know what "stable" means. Why do you lie with such non challenge? 😒 It is very unstable and reactive since it is so close to its ideal electron configuration. It forms covalent bonds with nonmetals, and since it is the most electronegative element, is always going to be the element that is reduced. https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Inorganic_Chemistry/Supplemental_Modules_and_Websites_(Inorganic_Chemistry)/Descriptive_Chemistry/Elements_Organized_by_Block/2_p-Block_Elements/Group_17%3A_The_Halogens/Z009_Chemistry_of_Fluorine_(Z9)#:~:text=It is very unstable and,the element that is reduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted November 19, 2023 #19 Share Posted November 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: It is very unstable and reactive since it is so close to its ideal electron configuration. It forms covalent bonds with nonmetals, and since it is the most electronegative element, is always going to be the element that is reduced. It is perfectly stable element. That doesn't mean it's not reactive. These are two separate independent attributes of an element. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted November 19, 2023 #20 Share Posted November 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: Why do you lie with such non challenge? 😒 It is very unstable and reactive since it is so close to its ideal electron configuration. It forms covalent bonds with nonmetals, and since it is the most electronegative element, is always going to be the element that is reduced. https://chem.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Inorganic_Chemistry/Supplemental_Modules_and_Websites_(Inorganic_Chemistry)/Descriptive_Chemistry/Elements_Organized_by_Block/2_p-Block_Elements/Group_17%3A_The_Halogens/Z009_Chemistry_of_Fluorine_(Z9)#:~:text=It is very unstable and,the element that is reduced. The natural occurring Fluorine-19 is stable. https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/9/fluorine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted November 20, 2023 #21 Share Posted November 20, 2023 17 hours ago, qxcontinuum said: Like I said: 10 years before... "Element 115 was already announced in 1989 when Bob Lazar, famous area 51 whistleblower revealed to the public that the UFOs possessed by the government were powered by a mysterious ‘Element" Thing is, I can announce "UFOs are powered by element 120." They will eventually create an element 120. But that doesn't mean I "knew something" -- it means I'm making up stuff. If I actually had foreknowledge of an element 120, I'd be able to state its properties correctly and explain how (correctly) it can be kept stable. Lazar had a number of statements about the properties of this element. They were wrong. He made it all up. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted November 22, 2023 #22 Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) @qxcontinuum, basic chemistry; Let's suppose element92 exists but element93 does not. To create the latter, you simply put an additional proton into 92's nucleus. done. you can turn lead into gold by doing this and it is easy to predict for anyone, not just Lazar. Bob Lazar has claimed from the beginning that he has in his possession, a piece of element115 but has never displayed it. PS: Lazar is as phony as a three-dollar bill Edited November 22, 2023 by Earl.Of.Trumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted November 25, 2023 #23 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 1:31 PM, astrobeing said: It's not possible to create a stable radioactive isotope. They will all decay eventually. "Island of Stability" is a euphemistic term meaning you can cram neutrons into an atom to make it decay more slowly but it is not stable and never will be. It actually may depend upon the type or size of black hole you’re living inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted November 25, 2023 #24 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 2:34 PM, qxcontinuum said: Why do you lie with such non challenge? 😒 Excuse me, but are you trying to say "nonchalance"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 26, 2023 Author #25 Share Posted November 26, 2023 23 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Excuse me, but are you trying to say "nonchalance"? Auto corrector is my worse enemy 😞 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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