Rosalynn Carter has died

[+susieice]

Former First Lady Rosalynn Carter, wife of President Jimmy Carter, died peacefully today at their home in Plains, GA. She was 96. She had just gone into hospice care at home on Friday.

Rosalynn Carter, mental health activist, humanitarian and former first lady, dies at 96 (msn.com)

Edited November 19, 2023 by susieice

[Myles]

She was a great woman.

[+and-then]

Yes, she always carried herself as a lady.  Too bad her husband became a terrible anti-Semite in his later years.   

Edited November 20, 2023 by and-then

[+susieice]

Former Presidents and politicians react to the death of Mrs Carter.

Reactions to the death of Rosalynn Carter, former first lady and global humanitarian (msn.com)

[Hankenhunter]

9 minutes ago, and-then said:

Yes, she always carried herself as a lady.  Too bad her husband became a terrible anti-Semite in his later years.   

When you've built, and sponsered as many houses for humanity as he has, then you can open your yap, and criticize him. 

Rest in peace, Rosalyn.

[acidhead]

RIP Rosalynn 

[Princess Serenity]

Her husband won't be far behind. Rest in peace. 

[+susieice]

The news said he is home with his children and his grandchildren and great grandchildren with him. Carter has been on hospice since February of this year. I don't think he'll be very far behind either. I haven't seen anything about burial arrangements but most of our modern day presidents and their wives have been buried at his Presidential Library. Carter's is in Atlanta, Georgia. I would guess that's where she'll be interred.

According to this that is where she will be taken on November 27th. But on the 29th, she will be moved and interred privately at the Carter family residence. I can only think that Carter doesn't plan to be interred at his Library because she would definitely be kept with him even if she did precede him in death.

Funeral, memorial plans announced for former first lady Rosalynn Carter (fox5atlanta.com)

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by susieice

[Kittens Are Jerks]

9 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

When you've built, and sponsered as many houses for humanity as he has, then you can open your yap, and criticize him. 

In spite of the few good things he accomplished, Carter was bereft of a moral compass, as is evidenced by his non-stop criticism of Israel, not to mention, his support of Hamas.  @and-then is not only right to call him out, he has every right to do so.

As for the peace accords between Israel and Egypt, the Camp David summit was Rosalynn's idea. She broke away from the traditional social role of First Ladies, choosing instead to be an active and effective political envoy with a focus on advancing human rights globally. I was sorry to learn of her passing.

 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

Rosalynn Carter: a life in pictures

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2023/nov/20/rosalynn-carter-a-life-in-pictures

 

 

[+and-then]

18 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

When you've built, and sponsered as many houses for humanity as he has, then you can open your yap, and criticize him. 

Rest in peace, Rosalyn.

I made no claim to the contrary.  Yes, he did a lot of good work and that changes absolutely nothing about what I said.  

[Tatetopa]

20 hours ago, and-then said:

Too bad her husband became a terrible anti-Semite in his later years.

This one surprises me a bit.  Didn't he work on the Camp David Accords and get a treaty signed?

[+susieice]

2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

This one surprises me a bit.  Didn't he work on the Camp David Accords and get a treaty signed?

He did but he wasn't very supportive of Israel. Rosalynn was. 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

2 minutes ago, susieice said:

He did but he wasn't very supportive of Israel. Rosalynn was. 

Poor Rosalynn. Apparently Sadat cried on her shoulder the entire time.

[Hankenhunter]

12 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

In spite of the few good things he accomplished, Carter was bereft of a moral compass, as is evidenced by his non-stop criticism of Israel, not to mention, his support of Hamas.  @and-then is not only right to call him out, he has every right to do so.

As for the peace accords between Israel and Egypt, the Camp David summit was Rosalynn's idea. She broke away from the traditional social role of First Ladies, choosing instead to be an active and effective political envoy with a focus on advancing human rights globally. I was sorry to learn of her passing.

 

How about a link to where he supported Hamas.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

15 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

How about a link to where he supported Hamas.

https://israeled.org/jimmy-carters-hamas-decade-of-embrace/

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2008/04/18/the-damage-of-jimmy-carter

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-mideast-obama-idUSN1636948020080416/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/05/carter-israel-hamas/13640905/

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/carter-support-hamas-fatah-alliance-054262

https://www.ctvnews.ca/jimmy-carter-embraces-hamas-official-in-west-bank-1.289449?cache=%2F7.350298

[Hankenhunter]

4 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

https://israeled.org/jimmy-carters-hamas-decade-of-embrace/

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2008/04/18/the-damage-of-jimmy-carter

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-mideast-obama-idUSN1636948020080416/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/05/carter-israel-hamas/13640905/

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/05/carter-support-hamas-fatah-alliance-054262

https://www.ctvnews.ca/jimmy-carter-embraces-hamas-official-in-west-bank-1.289449?cache=%2F7.350298

He didn't support Hamas. He was trying to negotiate a two state solution. He was being diplomatic. Most of your links are opinion pieces, and you didn't read them all through. He was trying to garner peace, but instead of applauding his efforts Isreal cried anti-semite to big brother, and politicians seeing an opportunity jumped all over it to score political points.

Until I see Bibi stop stealing land, and property out from under Palestinians, he's just as bad, or worse than Hamas.

Funny how you latched onto this, and ignored all he's done since. Including a Nobel Peace Prize for Humanitarin work.

What has Netanyahu done for humanity? Who has up to 400 Nuclear warheads, and refused all UN inspections of said arsenal?

I'm not rooting for anyone except the innocent people being slaughtered wholesale. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by Hankenhunter
Correction to content

[Hankenhunter]

18 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

In spite of the few good things he accomplished, Carter was bereft of a moral compass, as is evidenced by his non-stop criticism of Israel, not to mention, his support of Hamas.  @and-then is not only right to call him out, he has every right to do so.

As for the peace accords between Israel and Egypt, the Camp David summit was Rosalynn's idea. She broke away from the traditional social role of First Ladies, choosing instead to be an active and effective political envoy with a focus on advancing human rights globally. I was sorry to learn of her passing.

 

Perhaps you could watch this and see how Bibi, and company are really good human beings. 

 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

18 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

He didn't support Hamas. He was trying to negotiate a two state solution. He was being diplomatic. Most of your links are opinion pieces, and you didn't read them all through. He was trying to garner peace, but instead of applauding his efforts Isreal cried anti-semite to big brother, and politicians seeing an opportunity jumped all over it to score political points.

Consistently blaming Israel whilst simultaneously embracing the terrorist group determined to destroy it, is hardly the way to go about brokering peace. Carter was so bereft of good judgment he not only tried to legitimize Hamas he also tried to do the same with the Khmer Rouge.

His obsession with Israel and unrelenting criticism of it was pronounced, and his one-sided arguments blaming Israel for the conflict, whilst presenting the Palestinians as hapless victims, propagated a new type of Jewish Blood Libel. No amount of good works done following his presidency will excuse him for that.

17 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Perhaps you could watch this and see how Bibi, and company are really good human beings. 

There are certainly extremists in Israeli politics and Netanyahu at times indulges these extremists to keep himself in power. But there are also many prominent Israeli politicians who support a two-state peace deal granting Palestinians full rights and independence. Netanyahu’s ouster is not a matter of if, but of when. The majority of Israelis want him gone, and there’s no question that his departure would remove at least one significant barrier to a political resolution between the Israelis and Palestinians.

18 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

I'm not rooting for anyone except the innocent people being slaughtered wholesale. 

And yet your criticism focused exclusively on the Israelis.

 

@susieice My apologies for the derailment of this topic thread.

 

[+susieice]

1 hour ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Consistently blaming Israel whilst simultaneously embracing the terrorist group determined to destroy it, is hardly the way to go about brokering peace. Carter was so bereft of good judgment he not only tried to legitimize Hamas he also tried to do the same with the Khmer Rouge.

His obsession with Israel and unrelenting criticism of it was pronounced, and his one-sided arguments blaming Israel for the conflict, whilst presenting the Palestinians as hapless victims, propagated a new type of Jewish Blood Libel. No amount of good works done following his presidency will excuse him for that.

There are certainly extremists in Israeli politics and Netanyahu at times indulges these extremists to keep himself in power. But there are also many prominent Israeli politicians who support a two-state peace deal granting Palestinians full rights and independence. Netanyahu’s ouster is not a matter of if, but of when. The majority of Israelis want him gone, and there’s no question that his departure would remove at least one significant barrier to a political resolution between the Israelis and Palestinians.

 

 

 

 

And yet your criticism focused exclusively on the Israelis.

 

@susieice My apologies for the derailment of this topic thread.

 

No need to apologize. The thread isn't derailed. 

[Kittens Are Jerks]

43 minutes ago, susieice said:

No need to apologize. The thread isn't derailed. 

It is, but thank you for being so gracious about it. I'll put it back on track:

Biden orders flags be flown at half-staff to honor Rosalynn Carter

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4321264-biden-flags-half-staff-rosalynn-carter/

[Hankenhunter]

2 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Consistently blaming Israel whilst simultaneously embracing the terrorist group determined to destroy it, is hardly the way to go about brokering peace. Carter was so bereft of good judgment he not only tried to legitimize Hamas he also tried to do the same with the Khmer Rouge.

His obsession with Israel and unrelenting criticism of it was pronounced, and his one-sided arguments blaming Israel for the conflict, whilst presenting the Palestinians as hapless victims, propagated a new type of Jewish Blood Libel. No amount of good works done following his presidency will excuse him for that.

There are certainly extremists in Israeli politics and Netanyahu at times indulges these extremists to keep himself in power. But there are also many prominent Israeli politicians who support a two-state peace deal granting Palestinians full rights and independence. Netanyahu’s ouster is not a matter of if, but of when. The majority of Israelis want him gone, and there’s no question that his departure would remove at least one significant barrier to a political resolution between the Israelis and Palestinians.

 

 

 

 

And yet your criticism focused exclusively on the Israelis.

 

@susieice My apologies for the derailment of this topic thread.

 

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiRmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmNiYy5jYS9uZXdzL3dvcmxkL2hhbWFzLWlzcmFlbC13YXItZ2F6YS1ob3N0YWdlcy0xLjcwMzQ2NDbSASBodHRwczovL3d3dy5jYmMuY2EvYW1wLzEuNzAzNDY0Ng?hl=en-CA&gl=CA&ceid=CA%3Aen

10,000 civilians killed. Bibi is giving Putin a run for his money with civilians killed since the war started. You must be okay with Russia doing it if your okay with Israel's mass slaughter and program of annihilation. Oh well, soon the entire middle east will be in flames. All because one country won't stop stealing the land from another. 

Here's the kicker. The US gave, and is still giving billions to Ukraine to stop Russia's war crimes, land stealing, and meddling in US politics, yet is giving Isreal the same or more to committ the very same crimes. Hypocrisy? 

I don't give a crap about them killing Hamas, but the wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians is a whole different ball of wax. 

My apologies to the op, and forum members also. I will no longer post in this thread. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Hankenhunter

[+susieice]

Jimmy Carter attended his wife's memorial service today in Atlanta.

Jimmy Carter attends memorial service for wife of 77 years, Rosalynn Carter - ABC News (go.com)