when we become ancient's are time in the universe will be mystical

[cormac mac airt]

1 hour ago, Essan said:

Although if the Bible were written today it almost certainly would say that.  

Beliefs change over time - religious texts simply reflect the beliefs held when they were written.   Who are we to say today's beliefs are wrong and only those of 2 or 3 thousand year ago are correct?

That’s a bit of a cop-out IMO Essan since when something is presented as “the Bible says ‘X’” when clearly the Bible says no such thing then the claim is most definitely wrong. More so when it’s either stated or implied that the Bible has “always” said so. The Bible is supposedly inerrant/infallible/the word of God, that doesn’t allow for any change over time. Deuteronomy 4 and Revelation 22 both suggest as much. 
 

cormac

[Essan]

1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

That’s a bit of a cop-out IMO Essan since when something is presented as “the Bible says ‘X’” when clearly the Bible says no such thing then the claim is most definitely wrong. More so when it’s either stated or implied that the Bible has “always” said so. The Bible is supposedly inerrant/infallible/the word of God, that doesn’t allow for any change over time. Deuteronomy 4 and Revelation 22 both suggest as much. 
 

cormac

Correctly speaking, wasn't only the Pentateuch supposed to be the actual word of God (dictated by him to some Egyptian guy?   And a lot of the New Testament is just the inerrant/infallible word of Saul of Tarsus.  So there is plenty of wiggle room  

[Piney]

2 hours ago, Essan said:

Correctly speaking, wasn't only the Pentateuch supposed to be the actual word of God (dictated by him to some Egyptian guy?   And a lot of the New Testament is just the inerrant/infallible word of Saul of Tarsus with some minor edits and outright fraudulent letters.  So there is plenty of wiggle room  

don't hit me......

[Crazy Horse]

11 hours ago, darkmoonlady said:

Just copy and paste your first sentence of this reply then. Because while you are free to believe it, nothing in scripture backs that up.

Just so you know, but I don't follow any scripture, (not saying its bad per se..) but I do follow my heart.

Up-to-date, truthful and honest, in harmony, and the way to a beautiful, inner peace.

Just a suggestion but, go find GOD for yourself, within.

[darkmoonlady]

10 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

Just so you know, but I don't follow any scripture, (not saying its bad per se..) but I do follow my heart.

Up-to-date, truthful and honest, in harmony, and the way to a beautiful, inner peace.

Just a suggestion but, go find GOD for yourself, within.

Thank you but isn't that proselytizing? (And against forum rules). It assumes wrongly I don't have a belief system (that unlike you I don't feel the need to share because it's private). The discussion led us to talk about concepts that clearly make you uncomfortable. That seems like a you problem. 

[openozy]

On 11/21/2023 at 12:00 AM, trevor borocz johnson said:

I guess the skill of prophecy is probably pretty obtainable its just most people are disinterested. Here's a picture of pariedolia that maybe some of you can see the prophecy in....

I agree I think people are just too busy with their jobs, egos and worrying about what others think to listen to their gut feelings, survival instincts. People that do have the skill are put up on a pedestal like they are some kind of magic being. 

[Crazy Horse]

13 hours ago, darkmoonlady said:

Thank you but isn't that proselytizing? (And against forum rules). It assumes wrongly I don't have a belief system (that unlike you I don't feel the need to share because it's private). The discussion led us to talk about concepts that clearly make you uncomfortable. That seems like a you problem. 

Suggesting to stand on your own two feet, isn't proselytizing, in fact it is the opposite.

Organised religion is really only there to take away your innate power, not to stand of your own, GOD given, two feet.

Not saying that there isn't value in the lives of Godly people, but they were only Saints, Bodhisattvas, Masters and Yogis due to finding this innate power within.

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Organised religion is really only there to take away your innate power, not to stand of your own, GOD given, two feet.

That IS preaching as you are pushing your belief onto others who don’t believe the same. You don’t get to dictate to others what is or isn’t God given as you don’t remotely speak for any God, should one exist. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

13 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

That IS preaching as you are pushing your belief onto others who don’t believe the same. You don’t get to dictate to others what is or isn’t God given as you don’t remotely speak for any God, should one exist. 
 

cormac

Its not preaching, it is only a belief.

And something folks may take, or leave, as they see fit according to how they feel about it!

Why are you so scared of other peoples beliefs?

[cormac mac airt]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

Its not preaching, it is only a belief.

And something folks may take, or leave, as they see fit according to how they feel about it!

Why are you so scared of other peoples beliefs?

Why do you consistently lie about preaching? Again, you don’t get to dictate to others what is or isn’t “God given” for them as your version of God is irrelevant to anyone but yourself. 
 

cormac

[Will Due]

3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

you don’t get to dictate to others 

 

But you do.

 

 

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Will Due said:

But you do.

Your God doesn’t have any relevance to others either. If there actually is “a” God you don’t speak for it any more than the other 8+ billion of us on this planet. If you can’t understand that I don’t know what to tell you, it can’t be dumbed down any further. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

4 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Why do you consistently lie about preaching? Again, you don’t get to dictate to others what is or isn’t “God given” for them as your version of God is irrelevant to anyone but yourself. 
 

cormac

I'm not trying to dictate anything, you are free to believe in anything you want to. And this is something I've said time and time again.

Therefore, I literally mean everybody may believe in whatever they like.

And so you don't get to speak for everybody else, (like a dictator) telling everybody that these ideas are irrelevant for them..

Because that would be up to the individual to decide, right?

Or are you so stupid, and so much of a hypocrite to not even understand this much?

[Will Due]

3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

you don’t speak for it 

 

But you do speak for it. And get to dictate to others what it is.

 

 

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said:

I'm not trying to dictate anything, you are free to believe in anything you want to. And this is something I've said time and time again.

Therefore, I literally mean everybody may believe in whatever they like.

And so you don't get to speak for everybody else, (like a dictator) telling everybody that these ideas are irrelevant for them..

Because that would be up to the individual to decide, right?

Or are you so stupid, and so much of a hypocrite to not even understand this much?

And yet you do. There was no reason whatsoever to add “God given” to your previous post as you speak for no God, but merely your limited interpretation of one. If you’d cease and desist with stupid **** like that you might actually get somewhere. 
 

cormac

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, Will Due said:

But you do speak for it. And get to dictate to others what it is.

Go stand in the corner little boy, the grownups are talking. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

Just now, cormac mac airt said:

And yet you do. There was no reason whatsoever to add “God given” to your previous post as you speak for no God, but merely your limited interpretation of one. If you’d cease and desist with stupid **** like that you might actually get somewhere. 
 

cormac

Ok Mr Dictator, whatever you say..

[Will Due]

1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

you speak for no God

 

But you do.

 

 

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Will Due said:

But you do.

Nope because there’s no verifiable evidence that a God who involves itself in human affairs exists. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

A little musical interlude from the boys..

 

 

[Will Due]

3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Nope because there’s no verifiable evidence that a God who involves itself in human affairs exists. 
 

cormac

 

You don't know that to be true. You just dictate it to others as though it is.

 

 

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Will Due said:

You don't know that to be true. You just dictate it to others as though it is.

Yes I do as God, as a universal Creator, CANNOT BE QUANTIFIED! 
 

Prove otherwise O great pretender! 
 

cormac

[Will Due]

2 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Yes I do 

 

Talk about being a pretender.

 

 

[cormac mac airt]

2 minutes ago, Will Due said:

Talk about being a pretender.

I’m awaiting your ability to quantify God. Put up or shut up! 
 

cormac

[XenoFish]

12 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

You don't know that to be true. You just dictate it to others as though it is.

 

 

I thought we went over this earlier today? Am I mistaken?