Freemasons Worship What?! & A Haunted Atheist Professor

[XenoFish]

12 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

You’ve been exposed to so much that you’ve built up an immunity to it. 

Probably. It all blurs together at some point.

[Piney]

12 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

You haven’t got the foggiest whom exactly is being discussed in the Bible. It’s the King of Babylon who is being castigated and rebuked for his overinflated ego. the King of Babylon was no angel. 
 

Try again. 
 

cormac
 

 

I think that's been told to her about 5 times a across this forum...

[cormac mac airt]

3 minutes ago, Piney said:

I think that's been told to her about 5 times a across this forum...

That’s not surprising, nor is the fact she doesn’t know as much about the Bible as she thinks she does. Sad really. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

26 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

You haven’t got the foggiest whom exactly is being discussed in the Bible. It’s the King of Babylon who is being castigated and rebuked for his overinflated ego. the King of Babylon was no angel. 
 

Try again. 
 

cormac
 

 

You know, if you put so much effort into this spiritual life, as you do trying to disprove it, then you would be a saint by now.

[+Hammerclaw]

38 minutes ago, Bed of chaos said:

In regards to "swear your oath" I've heard this before. Supposedly, you must believe in a supreme being or idk something beyond death. Out of curiosity, is this true? If someone doesn't believe in anything, they can't join? 

Technically no, but if you soft pedal your atheism, you can get in. With membership plummeting, Freemasonry can't be too particular and is theologically diverse, anyways.

[Piney]

2 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Technically no, but if you soft pedal your atheism, you can get in. With membership plummeting, Freemasonry can't be too particular and is theologically diverse, anyways.

One of my grandfather's friends was a avowed atheist along with our town doctor and were members.

But both were members of our Quaker Meeting to avoid McCarthy's witch hunts. Then they stayed members for the humanitarian work so that probably counted in their favor.

 

[+Hammerclaw]

1 minute ago, Piney said:

One of my grandfather's friends was a avowed atheist along with our town doctor and were members.

But both were members of our Quaker Meeting to avoid McCarthy's witch hunts. Then they stayed members for the humanitarian work so that probably counted in their favor.

 

You could take the UB in and swear on that. The Mason that sponsors you will coach you. They are forbidden to actively recruit, so anyone who asks to join is treated like treasure.

[Piney]

29 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

That’s not surprising, nor is the fact she doesn’t know as much about the Bible as she thinks she does. Sad really. 
 

cormac

She keeps saying the devil was a cherubim too when he was considered a seraphim in Christian writings. 

I think she's just pulling that from her butt though. Or that idiot EGW said it. 

 

[Piney]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

You could take the UB in and swear on that. The Mason that sponsors you will coach you. They are forbidden to actively recruit, so anyone who asks to join is treated like treasure.

Same with traditional Quakers. We aren't allowed to recruit, are always on the point of dying out and treat new members as gold. 

[+Hammerclaw]

6 minutes ago, Piney said:

Same with traditional Quakers. We aren't allowed to recruit, are always on the point of dying out and treat new members as gold. 

They should passively advertise on the back of cereal boxes and promise a magic decoder ring.

[Antigonos]

18 minutes ago, Piney said:

One of my grandfather's friends was a avowed atheist along with our town doctor and were members.

But both were members of our Quaker Meeting to avoid McCarthy's witch hunts. Then they stayed members for the humanitarian work so that probably counted in their favor.

 

My brother and I were the first of our family to join as atheists. We were raised Greek Orthodox but had broken away by then. My uncle didn’t give a **** he just wanted us to join to keep the tradition going.

[+Hammerclaw]

13 minutes ago, Piney said:

She keeps saying the devil was a cherubim too when he was considered a seraphim in Christian writings. 

I think she's just pulling that from her butt though. Or that idiot EGW said it. 

 

Satan was one of the Elohim and the one Yahweh turned to when he didn't want to get his hands dirty. 

[Crazy Horse]

15 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

They should passively advertise on the back of cereal boxes and promise a magic decoder ring.

They used to give those away inside the cereal packet.

[cormac mac airt]

26 minutes ago, Piney said:

She keeps saying the devil was a cherubim too when he was considered a seraphim in Christian writings. 

I think she's just pulling that from her butt though. Or that idiot EGW said it. 

Pre or post-Council writings, ie. 3-4th century AD? 
 

cormac

[+Hammerclaw]

5 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said:

They used to give those away inside the cereal packet.

The Quakers?

[Crazy Horse]

Just now, Hammerclaw said:

The Quakers?

They was all at it!

Sharp, plastic rings, and things, for the kids to try not to eat, first thing in the morning..

[XenoFish]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

I think that's been told to her about 5 times a across this forum...

Have we gotten to the point where we have to define the actual meaning of the word satan yet? Did I miss that? Hard to keep track. 

[XenoFish]

30 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

They should passively advertise on the back of cereal boxes and promise a magic decoder ring.

They already have the oatmeal thing going. 

[+Hammerclaw]

3 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

They already have the oatmeal thing going. 

Make mine apple and cinnamon.

[cormac mac airt]

9 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

Have we gotten to the point where we have to define the actual meaning of the word satan yet? Did I miss that? Hard to keep track. 

It’s already been defined. She’s equating Satan with the Devil, the latter of which was a late addition to Judaism and carried over to Christianity. But not really original to either. 
 

cormac

[Crazy Horse]

Freemasons, I don't see as being inherently bad, or evil.

Like, the Mystery Schools of Pythagoras and Socrates, and hundreds of others, from the East to the West, and from the North to the South, they would have tried to keep all their secrets, on pain-of-death. 

So its no surprise that some of those schools survived, and became different "Masonic" groups.

Although I would add that any of those Lodges, that are known today, are all infiltrated and corrupted, too.

 

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

On 11/26/2023 at 10:13 PM, Occupational Hubris said:

On 11/26/2023 at 6:08 PM, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Hi 8, 

So people have brought up 'Total Onslaught' to me for years now. I've heard of it but never took the time to look at it. And when I recently took the time to do so, I saw this video and was like woah what's that!! I think he provided very good information. I don't know a lot about Freemasonry personally, but I know something's up. I live right by a lodge and am always weirded out walking by it - has a baphomet head depiction right on the front of the building Lol! I had met an Adventist once who was a Freemason and he told me it's safe etc. I wasn't buying it. Wished I had this video back then. I've also heard from other ex masons that it's not what it appears to be on the outside (to the lower level masons). 

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I doubt they have a Baphomet head. 

 

On 11/27/2023 at 2:34 AM, eight bits said:

That's why I am hoping she can post a picture.

It is an upside down pentagram I saw it but I am not going unto their property to take a picture .. ha! 😄

[XenoFish]

Just now, cormac mac airt said:

It’s already been defined. She’s equating Satan with the Devil, the latter of which was a late addition to Judaism and carried over to Christianity. But not really original to either. 
 

cormac

Like I mentioned earlier, all this blurs together. Someone comes to the forum. Makes the same type of post as the last person. We spend a lot of time repeating the same things over and over. I mean all it takes is just a bit of effort to understand this stuff. 

At this point Christianity as a spiritual path is fine by me. Christianity as a religion is just a means of draining whatever enjoyment of life a person has. Leaving them a self-hating husk who is desperate to fill the void within.

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

On 11/27/2023 at 2:32 AM, Piney said:

South African. You really do your research....

His family is German 

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

On 11/27/2023 at 2:32 AM, Piney said:

Your lying out of your teeth....

Ok