Freemasons Worship What?! & A Haunted Atheist Professor

[XenoFish]

https://www.kabbalah.com/en/articles/is-satan-real/

Call it satan or our shadow. It is an aspect of self. 

[XenoFish]

You can even look at Jesus 40 days fasting as a story about someone in a battle with their worldly vs spiritual desires. 

[cormac mac airt]

20 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Probably from Kabbalah too - which teaches that Luficer is light and god etc. Upside down star indeed. 

More anachronism as Kabbalah is Medieval in origin and NOT ancient, which means it and things based on it have no relevance to late BC Judaism nor early Christianity. Can you be any less relevant to Christianity? 
 

cormac

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

She behaves like an automaton

8 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Probably from Kabbalah too - which teaches that Luficer is light and god etc. Upside down star indeed. 

Lucifer in the Bible wasn't the devil, it was a recently fallen ruler who have oppressed the Jews. Baptists think your Great Controversy is the work of the devil, Did you know that, little Ellen? Did you know that the hostility toward Adventists you encounter is based on the same erroneous superstitious fear you display.?

How is it superstition when the leaders who wrote the highest writings in Freemasonry - say the kind of stuff he pointed out in the video? 

About the Bible, we'll agree to disagree because the fall of Lucifer was described in Ezekiel and Isaiah. You don't see it that way tho..  Jesus says He saw satan fall like lightening... he is no longer called Lucifer after the fall. He shows up at least a couple times as "Satan" in the Old Testament.  

This describes a beautiful angel, who became corrupt and fell from heaven and he was called Lucifer --> 

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13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

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12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

 

[+Sherapy]

33 minutes ago, eight bits said:

At least Walker wasn't scared witless by the truck headlights.

True🤣

[Piney]

2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

It is in the Bible. Clearly spelt out there.  But what are you saying, truly? That lucifer, fallen and corrupt, is still a bringer of light today? Anyways.. 

Chapter and verse where he's Cheribum. 

 

2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

It did call him a covering cherub. 

Chapter and verse.

2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

 

Where do you get this from?

Actual Hebrew writings. 

[eight bits]

28 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

This describes a beautiful angel, who became corrupt and fell from heaven and he was called Lucifer --> 

I notice you begin your quotation from Ezekiel chapter 28 at verse 13. Have you perhaps overlooked verses 11 and 12? KJV, natch:

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11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Lucifer appears nowhere in the chapter.

You cooked the books, Read.

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About the Bible, we'll agree to disagree

The hell we will. It's not on the page, Read. Not in Ezekiel. The reference in Isaiah has already been explained to you by others.

[XenoFish]

21st century witch hunts.🙄

[+Sherapy]

2 minutes ago, eight bits said:

I notice you begin your quotation from Ezekiel chapter 28 at verse 13. Have you perhaps overlooked verses 11 and 12? KJV, natch:

Lucifer appears nowhere in the chapter.

You cooked the books, Read.

The hell we will. It's not on the page, Read. Not in Ezekiel. The reference in Isaiah has already been explained to you by others.

 Word. 

[Piney]

2 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

What do you think of this?? This dude (Pike) planning world wars and saying that nihilism and atheism will destroy society? And will be removed when Luciferianism takes over? 

A nutty traitorous Confederate general who nobody listened to.....nice...

[+Sherapy]

47 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

How is it superstition when the leaders who wrote the highest writings in Freemasonry - say the kind of stuff he pointed out in the video? 

About the Bible, we'll agree to disagree because the fall of Lucifer was described in Ezekiel and Isaiah. You don't see it that way tho..  Jesus says He saw satan fall like lightening... he is no longer called Lucifer after the fall. He shows up at least a couple times as "Satan" in the Old Testament.  

This describes a beautiful angel, who became corrupt and fell from heaven and he was called Lucifer --> 

 

My two cents, it is time to focus on learning your subject first, then add to. We want to hear your takeaways but, the majority of your posts are not based in anything but your imagination and other peoples YouTube’s, at this point. 
 

A suggestion:Try thinking for yourself. 🙏🏼

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Sherapy

[cormac mac airt]

9 minutes ago, eight bits said:

I notice you begin your quotation from Ezekiel chapter 28 at verse 13. Have you perhaps overlooked verses 11 and 12? KJV, natch:

Lucifer appears nowhere in the chapter.

You cooked the books, Read.

The hell we will. It's not on the page, Read. Not in Ezekiel. The reference in Isaiah has already been explained to you by others.

She appears to have a major inability to understand what’s being discussed, by whom and what it means within her Biblical quotes. I’d call that a failure on her part as I’ve known children with better comprehension skills. I have to wonder how bad does one have to screw up to become an SDA? 
 

cormac

[+Sherapy]

Just now, cormac mac airt said:

She appears to have a major inability to understand what’s being discussed, by whom and what it means within her Biblical quotes. I’d call that a failure on her part as I’ve known children with better comprehension skills. I have to wonder how bad does one have to screw up to become an SDA? 
 

cormac

I think a prerequisite is no interest in critical application at all. 

[cormac mac airt]

Just now, Sherapy said:

I think a prerequisite is no interest in critical application at all. 

Sounds about right, followed by a huge amount of imagination and paranoia! 
 

cormac

[XenoFish]

I don't think there has actually been an interest in learning. This stuff feels almost like a self-affirmation.

[Duke Wellington]

On 11/26/2023 at 9:29 AM, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Some Freemasons say one thing, but official writings or leaders in the craft say another: 

Atheist University Professor who taught, among other things, evolution, came in contact with the supernatural. Scared out it of his wits.. a little comical. "This is for the birds, this is so unscientific.. I'm not going to be duped into believing some stupid fairytale..." --> 

1st Vid:

Some secrets of Freemasonry revealed. Old religions in new packaging. 
"May the force be with you" 
"Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry." 
Vatican Jesuits created Freemasonry. 
Albert Pike, author of Morals and Dogma of Freemasonry writes, "The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Lucerifican Doctrine." 
The secret ideologies of the self-styled "elite." Light is darkness. Good is evil. The devil is god, etc. "The serpent was so good to you. You'd be so stupid if it wasn't for the serpent" 🤣 

Pike wrote that Lucifer is light. No. He was of the light. Moon have no light of its own. Shut off from the light of the sun, it is only darkness. "We must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those masons of high degree... these men must be pledged to the strictest secrecy." Secrecy is an advantage, a tool to strengthen their power in society. Try as they might, they can't hide from everybody. 

 

Free = Liberal             Mason = Builder

Says all you need to know. It takes all religions, merges them together, and there are no secrets. If you put the time in you can do it yourself to get all the religious knowledge.

[+Hammerclaw]

1 hour ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

How is it superstition when the leaders who wrote the highest writings in Freemasonry - say the kind of stuff he pointed out in the video? 

About the Bible, we'll agree to disagree because the fall of Lucifer was described in Ezekiel and Isaiah. You don't see it that way tho..  Jesus says He saw satan fall like lightening... he is no longer called Lucifer after the fall. He shows up at least a couple times as "Satan" in the Old Testament.  

This describes a beautiful angel, who became corrupt and fell from heaven and he was called Lucifer --> 

 

Lucifer was. Satan's still out there, maybe under your bed, or in your closet.

[+Hammerclaw]

Dad's mom (she didn't like grandmother, so we called her Nanny) used to tell me about her weird Adventist friend she worked with at a mill in Murfreesboro during the war. The woman paranoid, scared of her own shadow, thought birds were demons sent by the devil spy on her and freaked out Halloween--stuff like that. I thought she was exaggerating, but I'm not so sure, anymore.

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

He isn't racist. That much i can say. Please show me if I am wrong. When people say something unfavorable about Jews, then suddenly they're antisemites? Why? If you're simply mentioning something they did or something that happened to them? 

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

If it was BS, then all those traditions, especially of the Stonemasons of old, wouldn't have lasted two generations.

And they wouldn't of been able to build such magnificent buildings in the first place..

Your arguments make absolutely no sense.

Hi Crazy Horse

As someone that has been involved in construction and fabrication all my life we teach the next generation what we know and have improved on so that they will improve on what they have been taught. Math and measurement is the most fundamental part of building or making anything and yes that is ancient and that is where it ends, We use different materials an different tools not to mention the complexity of what we build so the mystery knowledge you think there is is nothing more than your lack of  knowledge of our current and diverse processes and product systems.

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

The baphomet head depiction is a goat face in an upside down pentagram. This is dark spirituality, or satanic no matter where you go. 

HI Read

Yes we know it is a picture, what it is not is a picture of the building in question that has that symbol which is what you were asked for as you made a claim about how the Masons were using demonic symbols. You do understand that you started this tread slandering a reputable organization and made claims so the onus is on you to back up your claim or admit that you are just a drama queen trying to incite people for no reason.

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, Crazy Horse said:

And again wow, I couldn't make this up..

Me, telling someone to "Go find GOD for yourself.." is the opposite of telling you what to do!

HI Crazy Horse

It would seem you can and do make it up, go find god for yourself is telling someone what to do.

[jmccr8]

7 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

It's about understanding things no one would tell you.

HI Read

To be fair is it that no one would tell you or you wouldn't listen to people that did explain it to you, You are a self admitted conspiracy enthusiast that refuses to accept anything anyone here tries to coach you on so what is the evidence?

7 hours ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

Seeing what's going on in society...from a different perspective.

looking at things from different perspective is a good way of understanding things, however you only look through one perspective which limits your ability to understand. I don't have to agree or believe every aspect of different perspectives but one should be aware of what they are and what part they play of what effect they have on a situation or topic, in other words it is to accept the validity of their interaction and grow from it.

[Crazy Horse]

13 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

HI Crazy Horse

It would seem you can and do make it up, go find god for yourself is telling someone what to do.

No its not, its a suggestion..

If I had said, "you must go find GOD for yourself.." then you might have a point.

The actual context was that he was complaining about revisionist scriptures and misinterpretation and such, so I suggested to GFGFY.

[Crazy Horse]

14 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Crazy Horse

As someone that has been involved in construction and fabrication all my life we teach the next generation what we know and have improved on so that they will improve on what they have been taught. Math and measurement is the most fundamental part of building or making anything and yes that is ancient and that is where it ends, We use different materials an different tools not to mention the complexity of what we build so the mystery knowledge you think there is is nothing more than your lack of  knowledge of our current and diverse processes and product systems.

Come back when you've managed to build a pyramid, or even a grand cathedral.