It’s nearly 2024 but do we know how the AE’s constructed the Pyramids

[Unusual Tournament]

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

[Occupational Hubris]

Yes we do.

 

 

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https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/a-just-discovered-papyrus-reveals-how-the-great-pyramid-was-built/

Now, as the result of an amazing find in a cave 606 kilometers away, we have an answer in the form of 4,600-year-old, bound papyrus scrolls, the oldest papyri ever found. They’re the journal of one of the managers who helped build the great pyramid. It’s the only eye-witness account of building the Great Pyramid that’s ever been found.

 

 

[Piney]

51 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said:

Yes we do.

Tall White Nordics? Or the Annuckleheads? 

[pellinore]

Pretty much:

 

[Trelane]

4 hours ago, Piney said:

Tall White Nordics? Or the Annuckleheads? 

Reptilian Overlords???

[Thanos5150]

5 hours ago, Occupational Hubris said:

Yes we do.

https://bigthink.com/culture-religion/a-just-discovered-papyrus-reveals-how-the-great-pyramid-was-built/

Now, as the result of an amazing find in a cave 606 kilometers away, we have an answer in the form of 4,600-year-old, bound papyrus scrolls, the oldest papyri ever found. They’re the journal of one of the managers who helped build the great pyramid. It’s the only eye-witness account of building the Great Pyramid that’s ever been found.

No, not it, sorry. #894. 

Previous conversations, at the very least, have definitively answered the question of whether it is a "fact" Merer brought the stone to be used on G1 as a decisive no. Yet despite this some posters still persist on repeating this misrepresentation as if this were not the case.

Once again, we do not need to wonder about these things as we can read the Merer Diary for ourselves HERE. Again, nowhere does the Merer Diary, or the other related papyri found at the Wadi al-Jarf site, state or imply this stone is to be used as casing stones in the construction of G1 with this idea being nothing more than the initial opinion of one of the principle discoverers, Pierre Tallet, repeated so often to some it has become "fact".

As I have said many times, there are numerous other structures at Akhet Khufu, which again in context refers to the necropolis of G1 and not necessarily G1 itself, that required Tura limestone namely the surrounding mastabas, satellite pyramids, temples and the G1 causeway (which we can add the cover blocks of the boat pits to the list) which given the date of the Merer Diary to the 27th and probably last year of Khufu's reign makes these other structures almost certainly the most likely destinations of the stone.

While these same posters ballyhooed the recent book by Pierre Tallet and Mark Lehner, The Red Sea Scrolls, unfortunately they apparently did not bother to actually read it despite being hailed as "Required reading for all interested in the ancient world."

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The year of Merer and the Stones he brought

Merer and his men delivered the fine Tura limestone to the Great Pyramid in the penultimate year (26-27) of Khufu's reign. It is therefore unlikely that any of this stone was raised onto the pyramid itself for the casing. Although the pyramid builders set in place the casing stone from the bottom up as the pyramid rose, they trimmed it from the top down, as they removed ramps and embankments that may have cloaked the face of the pyramid. Judging from the elements Khafre and Menkuare left incomplete in their pyramid complexes, the valley temple and lower causeway were among the last major part of the pyrmaid complex to be built. Entrance to the pyramid itself was only accessed through the valley temple and up the long causeway. Finishing work could very well have been in progress on these lower features of Khufu's pyramid complex at the time Merer was eyewitness to its construction.

Tallet and Lehner continue pondering other possibilities where the limestone was used since "It is therefore unlikely that any of this stone was raised onto the pyramid itself for the casing." including asking the question "Could some of the Tura limestone Merer delivered have been used for the mastabas?" Or perhaps they were used for the "massive beams for roofing and sealing the rectangular pits on the south side of his pyramid for the cedar barques that would be used for Khufu's funeral"....

In conclusion, even Tallet and Lehner do not think Merer was transporting limestone from Tura for casing and instead have acquiesced to what I have been saying all along that the context and logistics more than likely instead support the stone being used for ancillary structures after G1 was already completed. If you see these posters stating as fact again that Merer transported the stone from Tura to be used as casing stones, just refer back here and call them out for what in no uncertain terms they would be- liars.

 

[+joc]

This is so stupid!  This is a 2000 Toyota Tacoma!  I know this because I own one!   That rock probably weighs over a ton.  

Besides being weigh  way too heavy for the truck...even if he could drive it home he would never be able to get it out!  

Edited November 26, 2023 by joc

[Piney]

39 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Reptilian Overlords???

Aren't they the Annucklheads?

 

3 minutes ago, joc said:

This is so stupid!  This is a 2000 Toyota Tacoma!  I know this because I own one!   That rock probably weighs over a ton.  

 

And the truck is rated half ton at the most.

 

 

[Antigonos]

4 minutes ago, Piney said:

 

 

And the truck is rated half ton at the most.

 

 

Brilliant idea using that tiny pallet too.

[XenoFish]

I guess I know what section to visit for entertainment. 

[Thanos5150]

6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

 

19th Century Stone Working- Secrets of the Ancient World Revealed

See HERE

http://connecticuthistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/BranfordQuarry-e1342712584246.jpg

http://www.mnopedia.org/sites/default/files/styles/xlarge/public/SHM 09726 - Quarry, Rockville Granite Company (Alexander), Rockville (Minn), ca 1910.jpg?itok=j_yXeEYE

 

[+joc]

40 minutes ago, Piney said:

Aren't they the Annucklheads?

 

And the truck is rated half ton at the most.

 

 

Absolutely!  

So, what to do?  Uh, get a bigger truck.  In the case of moving big heavy things, it's all about leverage.  

[Piney]

1 hour ago, joc said:

Absolutely!  

So, what to do?  Uh, get a bigger truck.  In the case of moving big heavy things, it's all about leverage.  

I watched the video now. All I saw was the same stupid accidents I've seen with large logs. Worn cables, flatbed not made for that type of weight and operator error. 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, joc said:

Absolutely!  

So, what to do?  Uh, get a bigger truck.  In the case of moving big heavy things, it's all about leverage.  

No get a bigger Egyptian lol

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

[+joc]

Just now, Piney said:

I watched the video now. All I saw was the same stupid accidents I've seen with large logs. Worn cables, flatbed not made for that type of weight and operator error. 

 

Exactly!  It's all stupid.  Unfortunately, stupidity gets people killed or seriously injured.  Like this guy:

I did that with my EXmark Commercial lawnmower.  Just trying to pull out a dead palm tree...came soooo close to going over backward...it would have killed me.

[Unusual Tournament]

This photo was found in King Tut’s tomb lol

 

[Piney]

11 minutes ago, joc said:

Exactly!  It's all stupid.  Unfortunately, stupidity gets people killed or seriously injured.  Like this guy:

I did that with my EXmark Commercial lawnmower.  Just trying to pull out a dead palm tree...came soooo close to going over backward...it would have killed me.

I could do that with my 444 if I picked up too many white oaks or sycamores.  

 

[+joc]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

I could do that with my 444 if I picked up too many white oaks or sycamores.  

 

Okay, now I have to play this song:

 

[Essan]

It's nearly 2024

Who here knows how to build a mobile phone 🤔

Edited November 26, 2023 by Essan

[Piney]

3 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

This photo was found in King Tut’s tomb lol

 

Well that settles it! The pyramids were built by Samson's G.G.G. Grandfather Moshe. 

[Occupational Hubris]

8 hours ago, Thanos5150 said:

No, not it, sorry. #894. 

Previous conversations, at the very least, have definitively answered the question of whether it is a "fact" Merer brought the stone to be used on G1 as a decisive no. Yet despite this some posters still persist on repeating this misrepresentation as if this were not the case.

Once again, we do not need to wonder about these things as we can read the Merer Diary for ourselves HERE. Again, nowhere does the Merer Diary, or the other related papyri found at the Wadi al-Jarf site, state or imply this stone is to be used as casing stones in the construction of G1 with this idea being nothing more than the initial opinion of one of the principle discoverers, Pierre Tallet, repeated so often to some it has become "fact".

As I have said many times, there are numerous other structures at Akhet Khufu, which again in context refers to the necropolis of G1 and not necessarily G1 itself, that required Tura limestone namely the surrounding mastabas, satellite pyramids, temples and the G1 causeway (which we can add the cover blocks of the boat pits to the list) which given the date of the Merer Diary to the 27th and probably last year of Khufu's reign makes these other structures almost certainly the most likely destinations of the stone.

While these same posters ballyhooed the recent book by Pierre Tallet and Mark Lehner, The Red Sea Scrolls, unfortunately they apparently did not bother to actually read it despite being hailed as "Required reading for all interested in the ancient world."

  Quote

The year of Merer and the Stones he brought

Merer and his men delivered the fine Tura limestone to the Great Pyramid in the penultimate year (26-27) of Khufu's reign. It is therefore unlikely that any of this stone was raised onto the pyramid itself for the casing. Although the pyramid builders set in place the casing stone from the bottom up as the pyramid rose, they trimmed it from the top down, as they removed ramps and embankments that may have cloaked the face of the pyramid. Judging from the elements Khafre and Menkuare left incomplete in their pyramid complexes, the valley temple and lower causeway were among the last major part of the pyrmaid complex to be built. Entrance to the pyramid itself was only accessed through the valley temple and up the long causeway. Finishing work could very well have been in progress on these lower features of Khufu's pyramid complex at the time Merer was eyewitness to its construction.

Tallet and Lehner continue pondering other possibilities where the limestone was used since "It is therefore unlikely that any of this stone was raised onto the pyramid itself for the casing." including asking the question "Could some of the Tura limestone Merer delivered have been used for the mastabas?" Or perhaps they were used for the "massive beams for roofing and sealing the rectangular pits on the south side of his pyramid for the cedar barques that would be used for Khufu's funeral"....

In conclusion, even Tallet and Lehner do not think Merer was transporting limestone from Tura for casing and instead have acquiesced to what I have been saying all along that the context and logistics more than likely instead support the stone being used for ancillary structures after G1 was already completed. If you see these posters stating as fact again that Merer transported the stone from Tura to be used as casing stones, just refer back here and call them out for what in no uncertain terms they would be- liars.

 

[Unusual Tournament]

More never seen before photos from King Tut’s tomb.

(all on environmentally friendly papyrus)

[Unusual Tournament]

17 hours ago, pellinore said:

Pretty much:

 

Archimedes, pioneered the concept of the lever thousands of years after the pyramids were built

https://physics.weber.edu/carroll/archimedes/lever.htm