Eldorado Posted November 27, 2023 #1 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Diabetes and obesity are rising among young adults in the United States, an alarming development that puts them at higher risk for heart disease, according to a study of 13,000 people between 20 and 44 years old. The authors of the study, published in March in a major medical journal, warn the trends could have major public health implications: a rising generation dying prematurely of heart attacks, strokes and other complications. And Black and Hispanic people, particularly Mexican Americans, would bear the brunt. "We're witnessing a smoldering public health crisis," Rishi K. Wadhera, assistant professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and one of the study authors, wrote in an email. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-11-diabetes-obesity-young-americans.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted November 27, 2023 #2 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) It is all the processed foods and some of the GMO foods that cause this more, too much soda pop with high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweeteners in everything. Fat Free, Sugar Free = Bad for your health. Studies have been shown to prove this, though I can't find them on the net anymore. But look at the evidence you see everyday. A woman at work used to bring in baked goods multiple times a week (she thought that would replace the actual worrk she never did). It was usually not very good in my opinion. One day she brought in something and I had not had breakfast so I decided to try it. It was the best she had ever made. When I mentioned that she sheepisly (yes, sheepisly) said that she had to use real butter and real sugar because she hadn't been to the store. And just as an aside, she was the roundest (or heaviest per inch as she wasn't very tall) of everyone in our group. I am not lightweight myself, quite a bit of fat coving my muscles. I think changing the focus from loosing weight to replacing fat with muscle would be a healthier attitude. This one says sugar is bad, and it is in more than moderate doses, which is impossible nowdays because some form of it is added to all kinds of canned and processed foods (read the labels) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7378387/ It is frustrating that no real studies have been done on the effects of no carb, no calorie sweeteners, though aspartame had some studies that indicated it was a cause of nerve disorders that got misdiagnosed early on, I haven't found those studies on the internet any more. Also, there were studies that indicated that your brain chemistry is affected by no carb sweeteners in a way to cause carb cravings. I do not know anyone one who has been able to loose weight by switching to diet foods. My grandmother and great grandmother used sacharine for decades, my great grandmother did get bladder cancer, but my grandmother did not. Apparently research has found that even though it caused bladder cancer in rats, it does not cause it in humans. I am dubious about a lot of the research based on who is funding it. My Opinion is that we don't have any good research on the foibles of fake sugar and fake fat because those are very good money makers. But sugar is not the root cause of the current obesity epidemic. There are societal pressures (consumerism) that are the root cause. More fast and processed food, less motivation to actually get out of the house. Edited November 27, 2023 by Desertrat56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 27, 2023 #3 Share Posted November 27, 2023 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23719144/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 27, 2023 #4 Share Posted November 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: It is all the processed foods and some of the GMO foods that cause this more, too much soda pop with high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweeteners in everything. Fat Free, Sugar Free = Bad for your health. Studies have been shown to prove this, though I can't find them on the net anymore. But look at the evidence you see everyday. A woman at work used to bring in baked goods multiple times a week (she thought that would replace the actual worrk she never did). It was usually not very good in my opinion. One day she brought in something and I had not had breakfast so I decided to try it. It was the best she had ever made. When I mentioned that she sheepisly (yes, sheepisly) said that she had to use real butter and real sugar because she hadn't been to the store. And just as an aside, she was the roundest (or heaviest per inch as she wasn't very tall) of everyone in our group. I am not lightweight myself, quite a bit of fat coving my muscles. I think changing the focus from loosing weight to replacing fat with muscle would be a healthier attitude. This one says sugar is bad, and it is in more than moderate doses, which is impossible nowdays because some form of it is added to all kinds of canned and processed foods (read the labels) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7378387/ It is frustrating that no real studies have been done on the effects of no carb, no calorie sweeteners, though aspartame had some studies that indicated it was a cause of nerve disorders that got misdiagnosed early on, I haven't found those studies on the internet any more. Also, there were studies that indicated that your brain chemistry is affected by no carb sweeteners in a way to cause carb cravings. I do not know anyone one who has been able to loose weight by switching to diet foods. My grandmother and great grandmother used sacharine for decades, my great grandmother did get bladder cancer, but my grandmother did not. Apparently research has found that even though it caused bladder cancer in rats, it does not cause it in humans. I am dubious about a lot of the research based on who is funding it. My Opinion is that we don't have any good research on the foibles of fake sugar and fake fat because those are very good money makers. But sugar is not the root cause of the current obesity epidemic. There are societal pressures (consumerism) that are the root cause. More fast and processed food, less motivation to actually get out of the house. Without even getting into the discussion of weather sugar substitutes are healthy or not, one does have to consider that eating processed foods that have sugar substitutes does little to offset the rest of the ingredients in said processed foods. Most are high in sodium which can be just as, if not more, detrimental to one's health than sugar. So, if one deletes both sugar and sugar substitutes from one"s diet, what one is left with are natural foods, eggs, milk, meats, dairy, fresh fruits and vegetables. If one also deletes sodium from their diet in addition to sugar and sugar substitutes, then practically all processed foods will be avoided. I personally, prefer sugar and cream in my coffee. However, I have also found from my personal experience that continuing to use sugar in my coffee, which I consume first thing in the morning, every morning, is a bad idea because it sets one up to continue using sugar throughout the day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted November 28, 2023 #5 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, joc said: Without even getting into the discussion of weather sugar substitutes are healthy or not, one does have to consider that eating processed foods that have sugar substitutes does little to offset the rest of the ingredients in said processed foods. Most are high in sodium which can be just as, if not more, detrimental to one's health than sugar. So, if one deletes both sugar and sugar substitutes from one"s diet, what one is left with are natural foods, eggs, milk, meats, dairy, fresh fruits and vegetables. If one also deletes sodium from their diet in addition to sugar and sugar substitutes, then practically all processed foods will be avoided. I personally, prefer sugar and cream in my coffee. However, I have also found from my personal experience that continuing to use sugar in my coffee, which I consume first thing in the morning, every morning, is a bad idea because it sets one up to continue using sugar throughout the day. We can't avoid sodium as easily as sugar and fake sugar and fake fats because we do need some sodium in our diet. It is just we don't need the amounts people use nowdays. It is a good point to make though, sodium is used in all processed foods as well and too much of it does cause problems. I remember a joke the minister told in church when I was a kid. A woman went to the doctor and he told her she needed to cut back on the amount of salt she eats. A few weeks later she came for a checkup and he asked how it was going with her low salt diet. She said "Pretty good we I got rid of the salt shaker on the table and we are eating a lot of ham and bacon. We do have to read the ingredients on those packages and we also have to be educated on how things like ham and bacon are made. Sugar and sodium are added to processed foods to make them taste better, we wouldn't buy them if they left those ingredients out. Edited November 28, 2023 by Desertrat56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 28, 2023 #6 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said: We can't avoid sodium as easily as sugar and fake sugar and fake fats because we do need some sodium in our diet. It is just we don't need the amounts people use nowdays. It is a good point to make though, sodium is used in all processed foods as well and too much of it does cause problems. I remember a joke the minister told in church when I was a kid. A woman went to the doctor and he told her she needed to cut back on the amount of salt she eats. A few weeks later she came for a checkup and he asked how it was going with her low salt diet. She said "Pretty good we I got rid of the salt shaker on the table and we are eating a lot of ham and bacon. We do have to read the ingredients on those packages and we also have to be educated on how things like ham and bacon are made. Sugar and sodium are added to processed foods to make them taste better, we wouldn't buy them if they left those ingredients out. Another interesting story: when my father was alive, in his 70's, he had a rather large stomach. Next time I saw him, it was gone completely. I told him he looked great and he told me it was because the doctor told him to cut way back on sodium. Well, the 'doctor" said it, so he did. He stopped eating mostly processed foods. Which meant, he also cut way back on his sugar intake and on his overall caloric intake as well. Interestingly enough today is the fifth day of my zero sugar diet. The day after Thanksgiving I decided to do this. It's difficult. No sugar and cream in my coffee. No crackers. No donuts. No ice cream. No bread. No corny dogs. No hamburgers. No, no, no. Plus, no Fritos, no chips...just absolute Zero Sugar. I have been eating basically eggs, meats, fish, carrots, celery and shredded wheat cereal. I have already lost five pounds... probably mostly water weight from the decreased sodium consumption. But I have also cut my caloric intake drastically. Instead of 3000 calories a day it's around 1200-1500. Edited November 28, 2023 by joc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 28, 2023 #7 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I'm gear up to do this soon. For some reason I've hit a plateau with weight loss. https://www.anabolichealth.com/steak-and-eggs-diet-by-vince-gironda/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 28, 2023 #8 Share Posted November 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I'm gear up to do this soon. For some reason I've hit a plateau with weight loss. https://www.anabolichealth.com/steak-and-eggs-diet-by-vince-gironda/ The reason that diet works is a double edged sword. No carbs... The steaks and eggs diet promotes optimum fat burning. There is no carbs which means that you aren't likely to store any fat. The fats and protein contained in steak and eggs will burn slowly. This enables your body to perform better, last longer, and achieve more. But the other side of that sword is...No carbs... Risks Mayo Clinic A sudden and large drop in carbs can cause short term side effects, such as: Constipation. Headache. Muscle cramps. Severe carb limits can cause your body to break down fat into ketones for energy. This is called ketosis. Ketosis can cause side effects such as bad breath, headache, fatigue and weakness. It's not clear what kind of possible long-term health risks a low-carb diet may pose. If you limit carbs in the long term, it may cause you to have too little of some vitamins or minerals and to have digestive issues. Some health experts think that if you eat large amounts of fat and protein from animal sources, your risk of heart disease or certain cancers may go up. If you opt to follow a low-carb diet, think about the fats and proteins you choose. Limit foods with saturated and trans fats, such as meat and high-fat dairy products. These foods may make your risk for heart disease go up. Things we need to eat: Firstly, there are the three main food groups: proteins, fats, and carbohydrates. You need all of them, and you need them in the right proportions. link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 28, 2023 #9 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I don't see where it mentions the refeed day every 4th or 5th day. From my link. (If people read it.) Cheat day Aside from trying numerous spices to keep your meals more interesting, you can get a break on steaks and eggs 1 day per week. Your cheat day is every 5th day on the diet. This day is your opportunity to fill up on other foods. This is the day you replenish the glycogen stores in your muscles through eating some carbs. You also get to replace the essential minerals and vitamins. Fill up on vegetables and fruit. Enjoy some flavors to give your palate a break. Take this time to eat more of the foods that promote other processes contributing to lean muscle mass building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 28, 2023 #10 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Another thing to consider that with just one modification it become a ketogenic diet. Just adding a nutrient dense smoothie with one of the meals each day. Also allowing a cheat meal weekly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted November 28, 2023 #11 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Another thing to consider is how much fat you are taking in...so the choice of 'steak' becomes really important. Since you are about to do this, you probably already know this! Good luck! Xeno after 3 months of Steak and Eggs: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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