Latest YouGov Poll: Britons support rejoining the single market, even if it means free movement

[pellinore]

People have joined the dots and realise that temporary EU workers are preferable to allowing the whole world to settle in the UK, with their friends and families- legal immigration, vital for the care sector and industry will be running at around 500,000 per year for the next 2 years at least. Freedom of movement would give us a choice, and a chance to take back control of our borders.

Joining the single market would allow for the free movement of goods and services between the UK, the EU and other non-EU countries who are member of the single market, like Norway and Lichtenstein. However, this would also likely mean agreeing to the free movement of people between the UK and the EU – a frightening prospect for Keir Starmer’s Labour given the role of immigration in driving the Leave vote. But is this fear justified?

Perhaps not. New YouGov data indicates that more Britons are in fact supportive of joining the single market, even under this condition, than in opposition. Just short of six in ten Britons (57%) would support the UK joining the single market, even if this meant a return to free movement, with only around one in five (22%) opposed.

Britons support rejoining the single market, even if it means free movement | YouGov

Edited November 29, 2023 by pellinore

[L.A.T.1961]

 Britons are in fact supportive of joining the single market

They are until its time to vote and then they disappear. Where were they at the last election which was about getting brexit done ?

Another no show.

Believe polls on liking the EU at your peril. 

[Unusual Tournament]

10 hours ago, pellinore said:

People have joined the dots and realise that temporary EU workers are preferable to allowing the whole world to settle in the UK, with their friends and families- legal immigration, vital for the care sector and industry will be running at around 500,000 per year for the next 2 years at least. Freedom of movement would give us a choice, and a chance to take back control of our borders.

Joining the single market would allow for the free movement of goods and services between the UK, the EU and other non-EU countries who are member of the single market, like Norway and Lichtenstein. However, this would also likely mean agreeing to the free movement of people between the UK and the EU – a frightening prospect for Keir Starmer’s Labour given the role of immigration in driving the Leave vote. But is this fear justified?

Perhaps not. New YouGov data indicates that more Britons are in fact supportive of joining the single market, even under this condition, than in opposition. Just short of six in ten Britons (57%) would support the UK joining the single market, even if this meant a return to free movement, with only around one in five (22%) opposed.

Britons support rejoining the single market, even if it means free movement | YouGov

Interesting article and after the shamozzle of Brexit easily believable. 
 

Only I doubt the EU will put itself through another British hissy fit at some point down the road without extracting heavy concessions like dropping the pound and full enforcement of EU directives, without a UK veto. 
 

More than likely, an EU deal along the lines of Norway would be more welcoming for both parties. 

[Unusual Tournament]

3 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

 Britons are in fact supportive of joining the single market

They are until its time to vote and then they disappear. Where were they at the last election which was about getting brexit done ?

Another no show.

Believe polls on liking the EU at your peril. 

The Tories are self imploding under the weight of Brexit. The polls are correct 

[pellinore]

8 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

 They are until its time to vote and then they disappear. Where were they at the last election which was about getting brexit done ?..

Believe polls on liking the EU at your peril. 

Very, very few people took Brexit seriously prior to the referendum. Why should they? Who amongst the general public would vote to make themselves poorer, isolated and ruled by fruitcakes?

Now the reality has made Brexit very high on the agenda- not a week goes by without it being mentioned in the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Guardian, etc.

[Unusual Tournament]

2 hours ago, pellinore said:

Very, very few people took Brexit seriously prior to the referendum. Why should they? Who amongst the general public would vote to make themselves poorer, isolated and ruled by fruitcakes?

Now the reality has made Brexit very high on the agenda- not a week goes by without it being mentioned in the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Guardian, etc.

Totally agree! But what amazes me is that no political party has outright voiced their support for joining the EU or at least access to the common market ala Norway. 
 

I think Britain needs more time in the political and economic wilderness before coming to its senses 

[pellinore]

29 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Totally agree! But what amazes me is that no political party has outright voiced their support for joining the EU or at least access to the common market ala Norway. 
 

I think Britain needs more time in the political and economic wilderness before coming to its senses 

Best estimates are it will take 10 to 30 years, with 30 years probably nearer the mark. Ukraine has been fast-tracked to join, and that is estimated to take 7 years. The UK joining is not on the EUs agenda atm, they have an immigration crisis and a war with Russia to deal with. Little Britain will be left to fester for a while. Of course, by then the rabid Brexiters will have passed away and the younger generations (who are overwhelmingly in favour of being closer to Europe) will have taken over. I very much doubt if I will live long enough to see it but I would like to.

[L.A.T.1961]

8 hours ago, pellinore said:

Very, very few people took Brexit seriously prior to the referendum. Why should they? Who amongst the general public would vote to make themselves poorer, isolated and ruled by fruitcakes?

Now the reality has made Brexit very high on the agenda- not a week goes by without it being mentioned in the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Guardian, etc.

I think it was 17.3 million voters, if I recall.

Express, Mail, Telegraph, Guardian, will likely still be bringing it up in the next century, it doesn't mean its still relevant, just that it was found to improve sales to their target audience after the vote and have nothing to replace brexit with.

Especially now Boris can no longer be used as a target.

[L.A.T.1961]

5 hours ago, pellinore said:

Best estimates are it will take 10 to 30 years, with 30 years probably nearer the mark. Ukraine has been fast-tracked to join, and that is estimated to take 7 years. The UK joining is not on the EUs agenda atm, they have an immigration crisis and a war with Russia to deal with. Little Britain will be left to fester for a while. Of course, by then the rabid Brexiters will have passed away and the younger generations (who are overwhelmingly in favour of being closer to Europe) will have taken over. I very much doubt if I will live long enough to see it but I would like to.

"the younger generations (who are overwhelmingly in favor of being closer to Europe) will have taken over."

They could spend time trying to overturn the vote, or even easer they could maybe move over there. Its still quite easy despite what's said.

But it seems the traffic is in the other direction with migrants wanting to move to this festering island. 

Apparently your view is not shared by those looking at the live in UK or go elsewhere option.

 

[Duke Wellington]

17 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

 Britons are in fact supportive of joining the single market

They are until its time to vote and then they disappear. Where were they at the last election which was about getting brexit done ?

Another no show.

Believe polls on liking the EU at your peril. 

What they are doing is saying we aren`t happy with inflation driving up living costs.

But as soon as a campaign begins and inflation and living costs across the EU are pointed out they would realise it is not the solution. In fact, it would be worse due to us being put into the position where potentially we would have to bail some of them out at some point over the next few years.

We`ll pretend the EU didn`t hit high inflation and in several member states quite a bit higher than the UK.

[itsnotoutthere]

6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Totally agree! But what amazes me is that no political party has outright voiced their support for joining the EU or at least access to the common market ala Norway. 
 

I think Britain needs more time in the political and economic wilderness before coming to its senses 

Oh the Lib Dems made it part of their manifesto....that's why they got hammered at the last election. 

Edited November 30, 2023 by itsnotoutthere

[itsnotoutthere]

9 hours ago, pellinore said:

Very, very few people took Brexit seriously prior to the referendum. Why should they? Who amongst the general public would vote to make themselves poorer, isolated and ruled by fruitcakes?

Now the reality has made Brexit very high on the agenda- not a week goes by without it being mentioned in the Express, Mail, Telegraph, Guardian, etc.

And yet I expect you'll be voting Labour at the next general election. Can I ask, are you in your 20s or 30s. Can you not remember what it was like living under a Labour Government? I can.

Edited November 30, 2023 by itsnotoutthere

[pellinore]

5 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

And yet I expect you'll be voting Labour at the next general election. Can I ask, are you in your 20s or 30s. Can you not remember what it was like living under a Labour Government? I can.

No culture wars, no sky-high inflation, no sky-high immigration, no food banks; houses, schools and hospitals being built, and a growing economy? Dreadful, wasn't it? The real problem is, after 14 years of Tories scalping the nation and misappropriating tax-payers money, hardly anyone remembers what normal life in an advanced economy is like.

[pellinore]

6 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

"the younger generations (who are overwhelmingly in favor of being closer to Europe) will have taken over."

They could spend time trying to overturn the vote, or even easer they could maybe move over there. Its still quite easy despite what's said.

But it seems the traffic is in the other direction with migrants wanting to move to this festering island. 

Apparently your view is not shared by those looking at the live in UK or go elsewhere option.

 

You are confusing two things which stem from one act of lunacy. Migrants moving here is because of the post-Brexit points system. And we have lost freedom of movement, but given it to the rest of the world, because of Brexit.

Once we address the root problem, we can work towards solutions, otherwise things will just get worse.

[itsnotoutthere]

13 hours ago, pellinore said:

No culture wars, no sky-high inflation, no sky-high immigration, no food banks; houses, schools and hospitals being built, and a growing economy? Dreadful, wasn't it? The real problem is, after 14 years of Tories scalping the nation and misappropriating tax-payers money, hardly anyone remembers what normal life in an advanced economy is like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

[pellinore]

53 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_Discontent

That's what I mean, hardly anyone can remember. That was nearly 50 years ago, before we started to reap the benefits of EU membership.

[itsnotoutthere]

4 minutes ago, pellinore said:

That's what I mean, hardly anyone can remember. That was nearly 50 years ago, before we started to reap the benefits of EU membership.

Yes, that's what they're hoping. 

[Essan]

I was always in favour of being in the single market - and of the free movement of people that came with that.  

Our lives would have been so much easier if our political overlords hadn't decided to recreate the Roman Empire (ie, the EU) and sign everyone in Europe up to it without their permission      But politics always cocks things up.  Always.