pellinore Posted December 5, 2023 #1 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) The Brexiters dreams are coming true, as we slowly move back to the 1950s. People should stock up on battery-powered radios and torches, as well as candles and first aid kits in order to prepare for power cuts or digital communications going down, the deputy prime minister reportedly said. According to the Times, Oliver Dowden described the supplies as “analogue capabilities that it makes sense to retain” in a digital age during a visit to Porton Down, the UK’s military laboratory. Dowden made the visit to coincide with his first annual risk and resilience statement, which he had promised to give last year when launching the government’s UK resilience framework. Britons should stock up on torches and candles in case of power cuts, says Dowden | Oliver Dowden | The Guardian Edited December 5, 2023 by pellinore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 5, 2023 #2 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) Ah...the WEF green agenda gets real. Remember...'you'll have nothing and be happy' Edited December 5, 2023 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted December 5, 2023 #3 Share Posted December 5, 2023 I said the same this time last year and the year before (I sell candlesticks, oil lamps etc in my shop) but did anyone listen? This is actually the first year in a while that I've not seen any warnings about winter power cuts - they're usually as regular as warnings about a shortage of turkey and 100 days of snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted December 5, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Essan said: I said the same this time last year and the year before (I sell candlesticks, oil lamps etc in my shop) but did anyone listen? This is actually the first year in a while that I've not seen any warnings about winter power cuts - they're usually as regular as warnings about a shortage of turkey and 100 days of snow This is how the world see us: Edited December 5, 2023 by pellinore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted December 5, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: Ah...the WEF green agenda gets real. Remember...'you'll have nothing and be happy' Just the UK- 20% poorer than Germany and the US, 10% poorer than France: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted December 5, 2023 #6 Share Posted December 5, 2023 October 2022 Homes face winter power cuts in worst-case scenario, says National Grid BBC News October 2021 Risk of UK power cuts this winter has increased, says National Grid The Guardian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Unknown Posted December 5, 2023 #7 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, pellinore said: The Brexiters dreams are coming true, as we slowly move back to the 1950s. Says a rabid europhile, who will always, without question, put his beloved EU over and above the UK (your own country), no matter what. The same EU that had its foundations built in.... 🤔 ....💡 the 1950s🤦 The same 1950s throwback lumbering arthritic dinosaur EU that isn't even fit for purpose in today's fast paced modern world. 👇👇👇👇 Quote: "EU-Australia free trade: What can we learn from the failure?" https://www.dw.com/en/eu-australia-trade-talks-what-can-we-learn-from-the-failure/a-67333414 But seeing as you're quoting from the Guardian, here's another article from the same publication. Quote: "I’ve got news for those who say Brexit is a disaster: it isn’t. That’s why rejoining is just a pipe dream" 👇👇👇👇 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/05/brexit-disaster-rejoining-channel-europe-economy Edited December 5, 2023 by Destination Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted December 5, 2023 Author #8 Share Posted December 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Destination Unknown said: Says a rabid europhile, who will always, without question, put his beloved EU over and above the UK (your own country), no matter what. The same EU that had its foundations built in.... 🤔 ....💡 the 1950s🤦 The same 1950s throwback lumbering arthritic dinosaur EU that isn't even fit for purpose in today's fast paced modern world. 👇👇👇👇 Quote: "EU-Australia free trade: What can we learn from the failure?" https://www.dw.com/en/eu-australia-trade-talks-what-can-we-learn-from-the-failure/a-67333414 But seeing as you're quoting from the Guardian, here's another article from the same publication. Quote: "I’ve got news for those who say Brexit is a disaster: it isn’t. That’s why rejoining is just a pipe dream" 👇👇👇👇 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/05/brexit-disaster-rejoining-channel-europe-economy Lol! Brexit benefits and advantages? Ask someone to actually say what they are, and they clam up. Economic advantage of the CPTPP: 0.4% over 10 years. Australia trade deal: 0.8% over 10 years. Loss of SM membersip:4% every year, costing £100 Billion lost revenue a year. Immigration illegal: up from 300 to 45,000 each year. Legal immigration: Up from 290,000 to 745,000 this year, 2 million since 2020. Ask Farage: it has been a failure. Ask the man in the street: we are thousands of pounds a year worse off. Go on @Destination Unknown name three benefits of Brexit. No, I know that is too hard, so name just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Unknown Posted December 5, 2023 #9 Share Posted December 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, pellinore said: Go on @Destination Unknown name three benefits of Brexit. No, I know that is too hard, so name just one. 1. From a trade deal perspective, the UK previously had access to around 43 active free trade deals as part of its EU membership - a membership that, as one of the largest net contributors to the EU's budget, it paid billions of pounds of UK taxpayers money every single year in perpetuity for. The UK has replicated all but 3 of these (Bosnia, Montenegro, Algeria), and no longer has to pay the EU a yearly subscription fee to access any of them. 👇👇👇👇👇 https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/the-uks-trade-agreements 2. By leaving the EU, the UK has been able to align with those markets projecting the highest growth over the coming decades (the so-called Indo-Pacific tilt), as opposed to being tied to a bloc projected to see declining relevance and stagnation - The EU’s share of global GDP in 1980 (with the UK) was almost 30%. But as more countries have joined, since then it has halved, down to 14.5% (without the UK) by 2023. It will soon fall to 13%, then 12%, and then sub 10%. The process is unstoppable. As the IMF has already said: "90% of future global growth will happen outside Europe's borders." (Source: IMF). 👇👇👇👇👇👇 https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/PPPSH@WEO/EU 3. (I'm staring to get RSI here 😂) According to a report earlier this year by the 'Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development' (OECD), the UK has shot up an international ranking of countries that are most attractive to highly qualified workers, owing to changes to the migration regime introduced after the UK's democratically mandated exit from the European Union. The 'OECD' reported in March 2023 that the UK had risen up its "talent attractiveness" list faster than any other country since 2019, numbering in the Top 10. 🤔 Quote: "The international organization said the UK made the biggest improvement in "talent attractiveness" in 2023, moving up nine places to 7th since 2019, and climbing above the US and Canada for the first time." 👇👇👇👇👇 https://biz.crast.net/brexit-freedoms-make-britain-a-magnet-for-highly-skilled-migrants-oecd-says/ Meanwhile, from the same 'OECD' report: "Germany slumps to 15th place in OECD study on attracting skilled labour" - ooops. 🤦 👇👇👇👇👇 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-slumps-15th-place-oecd-study-attracting-skilled-labour-2023-03-09/ Conclusion: The EU is not the major world power that you arrogantly seem to think that it is pellinore. It is a disparate group of nations with differing agendas and economies. It has generally accepted a common currency, but not the fiscal controls that must go with it. Edited December 5, 2023 by Destination Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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