Japan to offer free college tuition in 2025 to parents with 3 or more children.

[spartan max2]

 

In Japans ongoing efforts to fight population decline they are planning offer free college tuition to parents with 3 or more kids.

https://stoppopulationdecline.org/kishida-to-offer-free-university-tuition-for-families-with-3-children-starting-2025/#

 

Makes sense to me, if you want people to have kids then you need to make it affordable to do so.

[+and-then]

Too little, too late.  The same thing is happening all over Europe, as well.

[spartan max2]

1 minute ago, and-then said:

Too little, too late.  The same thing is happening all over Europe, as well.

It's a trend in all wealthy developed nations. It's the same in the US we just counteract it with immigration.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

15 minutes ago, and-then said:

Too little, too late.  The same thing is happening all over Europe, as well.

Especially too little too late for places like China where they're now offering things like tax incentives, housing subsidies, and longer maternity leaves. They are also looking at ways to reduce the cost of childcare and education. Some provinces are even offering to pay sperm donors.

But their workforce is already shrinking and it will take many years before it can recover.

[spartan max2]

7 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Especially too little too late for places like China where they're now offering things like tax incentives, housing subsidies, and longer maternity leaves. They are also looking at ways to reduce the cost of childcare and education. Some provinces are even offering to pay sperm donors.

But their workforce is already shrinking and it will take many years before it can recover.

Chinas a little unique in that they had the one child policy for a while. But I do find it interesting that it seems to be a global phenomena across many cultures.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

3 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Chinas a little unique in that they had the one child policy for a while. But I do find it interesting that it seems to be a global phenomena across many cultures.

Yes they are unique in that respect. They had the one-child policy which was later changed to a three-child policy. Now they are encouraged to have as many kids as they want. As for the rest of the world, I think the reasons differ country by country. I know that in Canada, one of the reasons given for the decline is the skyrocketing cost of housing. The pandemic obviously and the economic crisis following it no doubt also played a role. Bottom line: people just can't afford to have children.

But as you mentioned earlier with your US example, Canada will also make up for it through immigration.

[openozy]

7 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Bottom line: people just can't afford to have children.

Good.

[Alchopwn]

11 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Bottom line: people just can't afford to have children.

This speaks to a broader failing within our present system.  No living wage.  The USA still doesn't have universal healthcare.  And children are too expensive.  Oh, and the institution of marriage has been reduced to a scam.

[spartan max2]

1 hour ago, Alchopwn said:

This speaks to a broader failing within our present system.  No living wage.  The USA still doesn't have universal healthcare.  And children are too expensive.  Oh, and the institution of marriage has been reduced to a scam.

I wonder if some of it is also because of how much instant entertainment there is now. Movies, shows, games, books, etc. really an endless catalogue of ways for people's attention to be captured.

[Gromdor]

2 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

I wonder if some of it is also because of how much instant entertainment there is now. Movies, shows, games, books, etc. really an endless catalogue of ways for people's attention to be captured.

I've found that with AI, filters, and even CGI, make believe people are much more attractive than the real thing.  Couple that with technology that replaces real people in relationships and I can totally see why population is decreasing.  Just look at Japan For Japan’s ‘stranded singles’, virtual love beats the real thing | Japan | The Guardian

[spartan max2]

7 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I've found that with AI, filters, and even CGI, make believe people are much more attractive than the real thing.  Couple that with technology that replaces real people in relationships and I can totally see why population is decreasing.  Just look at Japan For Japan’s ‘stranded singles’, virtual love beats the real thing | Japan | The Guardian

That's an interesting concept too. Especially as AI advances 

[Alchopwn]

10 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

I wonder if some of it is also because of how much instant entertainment there is now. Movies, shows, games, books, etc. really an endless catalogue of ways for people's attention to be captured.

I think that is a symptom, not the cause.

[gloriia82]

It's a good idea. Of course, it's hard to say whether such a program will be sucessful, and how it will impact situation in general, but it's for sure worth trying. It can make education acessible to many people who had no acess to it before, and of course, will inflice birth rate.
But it's hard to say if many people will use it because when you have kids, you need to work to raise them, and with studies, it will be harder to do. I'm a student, and university takes all my time. I have a lot of tasks, and of course, with internet access and useful resources services, for example, I use https://essays.edubirdie.com when I have some writing troubles, it's easier to study, but still can be challenging. And if you also need to work, it will be even harder to find time for everything. However, such a programme and its outcome can be an example for other countries.

[Bendy Demon]

On 12/7/2023 at 8:06 PM, spartan max2 said:

 

In Japans ongoing efforts to fight population decline they are planning offer free college tuition to parents with 3 or more kids.

https://stoppopulationdecline.org/kishida-to-offer-free-university-tuition-for-families-with-3-children-starting-2025/#

 

Makes sense to me, if you want people to have kids then you need to make it affordable to do so.

Have you asked yourself just WHY it is so important for these countries to compel their citizens to have more kids? It's not because they love kids or the people or even preserving their culture but are worried about one thing and one thing only. Money. And lots of it. More kids means more future tax payers which means more money the government can extract for their 'programs' and wars. Nothing else. The populace is not considered wealth as far as intellect, art or culture, etc goes, the populace is merely seen as a source of wealth. Walking ATM machines really. Taxed, fined and assessed fees every step of the way all throughout life for merely existing and when you are no longer seen as useful in any sense of the word then you pretty much get shoved aside to make room for the next wave of unassuming and increasingly ignorant people.

Nowdays many people are so busy, worried and stressed about their own survival in more ways than just monetarily that bringing a child into a already stressed family and world will accomplish nothing for either the prospective parents or the equally prospective child.