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Kecksburg UFO mystery continues to endure over 58 years later

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fred_mc Intermediate

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2 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

They crash all over the world.

Really? I live in Sweden in Europe but I don't remember reading about crashed UFOs in Europe. It is usually in the USA, although I think I remember reading about a crashed UFO in South America as well (but also then the US military was involved).

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Hazzard
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From your link. "We should also note that Swedish and Danish ufologists have for years tried to check this story and found it to be a mere fantasy without any substance."

astrobeing
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So UFO stands for "unidentified falling object"?

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'Hazzard a guess'

fred_mc Intermediate

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46 minutes ago, fred_mc said:

Really? I live in Sweden in Europe but I don't remember reading about crashed UFOs in Europe. It is usually in the USA, although I think I remember reading about a crashed UFO in South America as well (but also then the US military was involved).

Hmmm, now when searching I did actually find this story: https://www.ufoinsight.com/aliens/encounters/death-alien-humanoid-1955-sweden

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3 minutes ago, fred_mc said:

Hmmm, now when searching I did actually find this story: https://www.ufoinsight.com/aliens/encounters/death-alien-humanoid-1955-sweden

From your link.

"We should also note that Swedish and Danish ufologists have for years tried to check this story and found it to be a mere fantasy without any substance."

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22 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

From your link.

"We should also note that Swedish and Danish ufologists have for years tried to check this story and found it to be a mere fantasy without any substance."

Yes, I also read that but a fascinating story anyway... and how much fantasy is involved in the stories about downed UFOs in the U.S., probably a lot of fantasy involved there too I think.

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3 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Many countries have downed ufo stories 

Pretty much all countries have a long list of paranormal phenomenon that keeps happening. 

 

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the13bats Immortal

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Ah, kecksburg,
The one guy who spent his live saying it was alien craft jumped to ...and Bigfoot is involved.
 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hazzard said:

Pretty much all countries have a long list of paranormal phenomenon that keeps happening. 

 

You are right in this one.

Folklore and the paranormal are to be found in most countries if not all.

They didn't use to call them UFOs in the past but they had other names for describing similar phenomena.

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4 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Pretty much all countries have a long list of paranormal phenomenon that keeps happening. 

 

Yes, but could an unidentified crashing object be called a paranormal event? I wouldn't call it that. To me, a ghost is an example of something paranormal.

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Just now, fred_mc said:

Yes, but could an unidentified crashing object be called a paranormal event? I wouldn't call it that. To me, a ghost is an example of something paranormal.

UFOs are part of the paranormal.... because of the connection some people make to extraterrestrial visitation. 

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8 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

UFOs are part of the paranormal.... because of the connection some people make to extraterrestrial visitation. 

Can you rule out ET visitation?

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13 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

UFOs are part of the paranormal.... because of the connection some people make to extraterrestrial visitation. 

I wish people wouldn't see UFOs as part of the paranormal. Then they would be taken more seriously. After all, UFO simply means Unidentified Flying Object.

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Can you rule out ET visitation?

Nope... and no one can rule it in either.  Speculations and opinions is all we have at this point in time.

There is zero undisputed evidence (not even close) that ETI is out there, have found our planet, and are now here buzzing the locals.

Anyone saying otherwise is either lying or delusional.

 

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10 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Pretty much all countries have a long list of paranormal phenomenon that keeps happening.

They are specific to that culture. Why are there no reports of tiny furry humanoids in anyplace except South America?

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On 7/22/2024 at 2:44 PM, MrAnderson said:

I don't know why you use another name to calm me. It's MrAnderson here.

There is no suggestion it was extraterrestrial. It could have been. But no matter its origin the incident remains unexplained just as the article correctly stated.

What do you mean folks like me? It's like saying folks like pilots, military personnel, scientists, engineers, snd others. Folks like Dr Michio Kaku for example? Although we have a a few things common, we are both open minded and have similar educational backgrounds.

What was your explanation? I didn't get it because you went straight into the denying and dismissing mode.

Because it's obvious who you are. So you can keep all that Mr. Anderson stuff, nobody's buying it.

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33 minutes ago, Trelane said:

Because it's obvious who you are. So you can keep all that Mr. Anderson stuff, nobody's buying it.

MrAnderson and please no speculations. I didn't get any answer to my question. What do you mean folks like me? Do you think I belong to some sort of a cult or a religious group where we praise UFOs and we hope they will come and save us.

You need to be realistic. A number of people, academics, scientists, and from all parts of life, have expressed interest on UFOs and extraterrestrial life and they are rejecting them.

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OpenMindedSceptic Experienced

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12 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Pretty much all countries have a long list of paranormal phenomenon that keeps happening. 

 

As well as ufo's... hmm. Interesting 

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22 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

As well as ufo's... hmm. Interesting 

Yep.

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6 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Nope... and no one can rule it in either.  Speculations and opinions is all we have at this point in time.

There is zero undisputed evidence (not even close) that ETI is out there, have found our planet, and are now here buzzing the locals.

Anyone saying otherwise is either lying or delusional.

 

Another rub is whether it's the blanket "paranormal" or specific "aliens" we have plenty of stories we also have plenty of stories which have been completely explained with supporting  evidence and we have a few cases which of course are unexplained.
"Unexplained" is just that it's not a jump to anything but I find some believers insist on doing that "I don't what it is. So it must be ________"  (fill in the blank ).
This isn't logical or even rational thinking in fact to me it's closed minded in the box thinking.
I'm not closing any doors on aliens or paranormal or supernatural etc all I'm asking is support the claim with evidence and it's never there.

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25 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I'm not closing any doors on aliens or paranormal or supernatural etc all I'm asking is support the claim with evidence and it's never there.

 

Every single claim of something paranormal has been debunked (or is still unexplained).

Nothing of what has been presented here over the years as ETI stands up to scrutiny. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

As well as ufo's... hmm. Interesting 

But it was claimed on another thread that there is zero talk and no interest on UFOs outside of the US.

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Cosmos 96

The Great Lakes Fireball and Kecksburg Incident
There is some speculation that the reentry of the Cosmos 96/Venera-type spacecraft was responsible for a fireball which was seen over southwestern Ontario, Canada and at least eight states from Michigan to New York at 4:43 p.m. EST (21:43 UT) on 9 December 1965. Investigations of photographs and sightings of the fireball indicated its path through the atmosphere was probably too steep to be consistent with a spacecraft re-entering from Earth orbit and was more likely a meteor in a prograde orbit from the vicinity of the asteroid belt, and probably ended its flight over western Lake Erie. U.S. Air Force tracking data on Cosmos 96 also indicate the spacecraft orbit decayed earlier than 21:43 UT on 9 December. Other analyses of the spacecraft orbit definitively indicate it could not have been the Cosmos 96 spacecraft. Some unconfirmed reports state the fireball subsequently landed in Pennsylvania southeast of Pittsburgh near the town of Kecksburg (40.2 N, 79.5 W) at 4:46 p.m. EST (although it should be noted that estimating the impact point of fireballs from eyewitness accounts is notoriously inaccurate).

 

 

 

Most likely option is a meteor as opposed to space junk.

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Trelane Perspicacious

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16 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

As well as ufo's... hmm. Interesting 

All countries do? No, not really.

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47 minutes ago, Trelane said:

All countries do? No, not really.

Eh?

Is this in your template??? lol

 

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