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To help prevent sub-standard food entering the EU market, most UK foodstuffs will be labelled "Not for EU" this year. Some supermarkets have already started introducing the new labels, which add cost and complexity to production.

Shoppers have already noticed the lack of choice now being offered, which will reduce again when we start to introduce import controls at the end of this month- many speciality and artisan food producers in Europe will no longer be able to supply the UK. 

 

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42 minutes ago, pellinore said:

To help prevent sub-standard food entering the EU market

Why the automatic assumption that EU food is of a higher standard than UK food?

Q: Who supplied us with pies containing donkey meat?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with beef that was actually horse meat containing dangerous growth hormones?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with eggs laced with poisonous insecticide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with fake olive oil?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with mineral water tainted with carcinogenic benzine?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with chicken, eggs, pork and mozarella contaminated with carcinogenic dioxin?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with coca-cola contaminated with fungicide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with meat products contaminated with listeria?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied our children with kinder surprise chocolate eggs contaminated with Salmonella?

A: Your beloved EUAnd the list goes on.....

 

According to the latest 'Global Food Security Index' (GFSI), the UK is ranked 9th out of 113 countries, which is way above popular EU vassals Spain (20th), Italy (27th), and Greece (31st).

The 'Global Food Security Index' considers the core issues of "Affordability", "Availability" and "Quality and Safety" across a set of 113 countries, so maybe it would be better for your beloved EU to have their foodstuffs labelled as "Not for UK", to help prevent their sub-standard EU food from entering the UK market. 👇👇👇👇

https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/

 

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6 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

Why the automatic assumption that EU food is of a higher standard than UK food?

Q: Who supplied us with pies containing donkey meat?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with beef that was actually horse meat containing dangerous growth hormones?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with eggs laced with poisonous insecticide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with fake olive oil?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with mineral water tainted with carcinogenic benzine?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with chicken, eggs, pork and mozarella contaminated with carcinogenic dioxin?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with coca-cola contaminated with fungicide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with meat products contaminated with listeria?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied our children with kinder surprise chocolate eggs contaminated with Salmonella?

A: Your beloved EUAnd the list goes on.....

 

According to the latest 'Global Food Security Index' (GFSI), the UK is ranked 9th out of 113 countries, which is way above popular EU vassals Spain (20th), Italy (27th), and Greece (31st).

The 'Global Food Security Index' considers the core issues of "Affordability", "Availability" and "Quality and Safety" across a set of 113 countries, so maybe it would be better for your beloved EU to have their foodstuffs labelled as "Not for UK", to help prevent their sub-standard EU food from entering the UK market. 👇👇👇👇

https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/

 

That being said, you still take your life in your hands when you eat London take-out imo.  I have never had more regular gastric upsets than when travelling in the UK. Apparently 20% of the UK's total population has a gastric upset at any given time due to poor food hygiene. I hate McDonalds but I was forced to eat there for reasons of consistent safety in food handling.  These days I know better.  If I need too live in the UK, I make sure I rent somewhere that has a kitchen, so I can cook for myself.

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On 1/9/2024 at 9:07 AM, Destination Unknown said:

Why the automatic assumption that EU food is of a higher standard than UK food?

Q: Who supplied us with pies containing donkey meat?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with beef that was actually horse meat containing dangerous growth hormones?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with eggs laced with poisonous insecticide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with fake olive oil?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with mineral water tainted with carcinogenic benzine?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with chicken, eggs, pork and mozarella contaminated with carcinogenic dioxin?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with coca-cola contaminated with fungicide?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied us with meat products contaminated with listeria?

A: Your beloved EU.

Q: Who supplied our children with kinder surprise chocolate eggs contaminated with Salmonella?

A: Your beloved EUAnd the list goes on.....

 

According to the latest 'Global Food Security Index' (GFSI), the UK is ranked 9th out of 113 countries, which is way above popular EU vassals Spain (20th), Italy (27th), and Greece (31st).

The 'Global Food Security Index' considers the core issues of "Affordability", "Availability" and "Quality and Safety" across a set of 113 countries, so maybe it would be better for your beloved EU to have their foodstuffs labelled as "Not for UK", to help prevent their sub-standard EU food from entering the UK market. 👇👇👇👇

https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/

 

Well, since most of our food comes from the EU because it is cheaper (they didn't impose trade barriers on themselves, remember, and 90% of Tesco pork is supplied by the Netherlands), and since we don't check the quality of imports (too expensive) let's hope the EU ups its standards. Oh, they do, for the EU, because they do checks, unlike the UK.

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2 hours ago, pellinore said:

Well, since most of our food comes from the EU because it is cheaper (they didn't impose trade barriers on themselves, remember, and 90% of Tesco pork is supplied by the Netherlands), and since we don't check the quality of imports (too expensive) let's hope the EU ups its standards. Oh, they do, for the EU, because they do checks, unlike the UK.

Wrong. They don't do checks within your beloved EU's borders, because of your beloved EU's free movement of goods within your beloved EU's ever so precious and delicate Single Market (bless its cotton socks).

Maybe that's why 14 EU vassals have seen a surge in salmonella cases. 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ROA_S-Enteritidis-ST11_chicken-meat_2023_amended.pdf

 

And maybe that's why research suggests that only 55% of European consumers think food on sale in the region is safe, whilst in the UK 74% of consumers trust the safety of the food they buy. But you just carry on if you like pellinore, there's still more of a hole for you to dig. 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2022/04/26/From-Nestle-s-Buitoni-to-Ferrero-s-Kinder-High-profile-scandals-put-European-food-safety-in-the-spotlight

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20 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

Wrong. They don't do checks within your beloved EU's borders, because of your beloved EU's free movement of goods within your beloved EU's ever so precious and delicate Single Market (bless its cotton socks).

Maybe that's why 14 EU vassals have seen a surge in salmonella cases. 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ROA_S-Enteritidis-ST11_chicken-meat_2023_amended.pdf

 

And maybe that's why research suggests that only 55% of European consumers think food on sale in the region is safe, whilst in the UK 74% of consumers trust the safety of the food they buy. But you just carry on if you like pellinore, there's still more of a hole for you to dig. 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2022/04/26/From-Nestle-s-Buitoni-to-Ferrero-s-Kinder-High-profile-scandals-put-European-food-safety-in-the-spotlight

As usual, you miss the point (perhaps deliberately). There are constant problems with food production, all around the world, because it is such a huge industry. Some is accidental (Mrs Kirkham's Lancashire Cheese had to close down and recall recently due to infection) and there are often recalls due to bits of plastic/machinery damaging products. Some is deliberate fraud- the horse meat scandal is one example.

The point is, the UK is the only European country to allow free imports with no checks- completely free, so EU countries know they can dump sub-standard products into the UK. A few random checks have found food unfit for human consumption entering the UK. From the end of this month the UK is supposed to be starting checks- it will be interesting to see if we actually carry this out or kick it down the road for the 6th time (as Rees Mogg says, it will add to costs which will be passed on to consumers).

If the UK really believed there were problems with EU food, we would not be importing 46% of our food from Europe, would we? And that is set to increase as we are pricing our own farmers out of the market. (Though Therese Coffey did say we don't need fancy vegetables, we can just eat turnips).

Next time you go to a supermarket, check where the meat products originate from- the majority comes from the EU. And look for the "Not for EU" on the labels- that is profit lost through exports lost.

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9 hours ago, pellinore said:

As usual, you miss the point (perhaps deliberately).

No, I don't miss the point at all pellinore, because the only "point" you have is to use this forum to continously bang your one man drum in order to bash the UK (your own country), in your totally pointless crusade to big up that far too overpriced political union folly at every single opportunity (definitely deliberately), and it's getting extremely tedious ripping every single one of your so-called "points" to shreds.

 

9 hours ago, pellinore said:

The point is, the UK is the only European country to allow free imports with no checks- completely free

We're still doing checks on food from non-EU countries, like we always have done, it's just that we're not doing them on food from your beloved EU, just like we haven't done for the last 5 decades. Care to remind us all why we weren't doing checks on produce from the EU at our borders then? 🤔

Here's a tiny bit of a clue: It's precisely because we were in your beloved EU that was the reason we weren't doing food checks on produce from the EU at our borders.... because of the EU's free movement of goods within the EU's Single Market. 🤦🤦🤦🤦

 

9 hours ago, pellinore said:

so EU countries know they can dump sub-standard products into the UK.

Give your head a wobble pellinore, your 'Brexit Derangement Syndrome' ('BDS') has obviously clouded your ability to even think critically.

You started this thread in typical UK-bashing style by saying that, quote: "To help prevent sub-standard food entering the EU market, most UK foodstuffs will be labelled "Not for EU" this year", so in other words you would have us all believe that EU standards are gold plated. So good in fact that while we were members, no checks on any food or produce from the EU were deemed necessary anyway, because goods can move without restriction within the EU. Since we've left though, it's now imperative that produce from your beloved EU has to be thoroughly checked.

As I've already previously pointed out in my original reply above (#2), why the automatic assumption that EU food is of a higher standard than UK food, when EU countries have been dumping sub-standard produce into the UK for decades anyway, and that was whilst we were in your beloved EU, so where was your faux outrage about that? 🤔

If we were the dumping ground for sub-standard EU produce, then that obviously means your beloved EU's standards on produce aren't up to much to begin with then are they. 🤦

This further demonstrates how there is no consistency across the confused non-arguments of the indoctrinated Remoaner.

Heck, they've even been dumping their sub-standard food within their own market, which is why 14 EU vassals have seen an increase in salmonella cases. 👇👇👇👇🤦

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ROA_S-Enteritidis-ST11_chicken-meat_2023_amended.pdf

 

9 hours ago, pellinore said:

If the UK really believed there were problems with EU food, we would not be importing 46% of our food from Europe, would we? And that is set to increase as we are pricing our own farmers out of the market.

Rubbish. As well as our own home grown produce, the UK has multiple areas to source food from, and not just from your beloved EU either, and the produce those non-EU countries sell is now replacing food that we previously got from those 27 EU vassals, so no, it is not set to increase at all, because annoyingly for you, it's actually been decreasing. For instance Morocco is now seeing an increase in imports to the UK, as UK imports from your beloved EU is decreasing.

Don't you think it's a good thing that the UK is now trading more with poorer countries and helping bring them out of poverty, instead of restricting ourselves to the EU closed shop protectionist trade bloc because of a tendency to be insular and EU facing? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2024/01/360033/morocco-among-major-beneficiaries-of-brexit

 

If you lose your biggest supplier, you find another one. New trade partners will always be there to replace old trade partners, and there's absolutely nothing that those 27 EU vassals produce that cannot be sourced from elsewhere.

As we diverge away from your beloved EU, we will be less reliant on it, and your beloved EU's biggest problem now and into the future is that we can buy everything the EU sells elsewhere anyway, and much cheaper. The EU will have to compete, and prices will come down, or they won't sell. What was that you said again pellinore? 🤔

Ahhh yes, that was it: "That is (EU) profit lost through (EU) exports lost." 😂😂😂

In summary: Your beloved EU is just a middle man, nothing more, and we do not need it.

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49 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

No, I don't miss the point at all pellinore, because the only "point" you have is to use this forum to continously bang your one man drum in order to bash the UK (your own country), in your totally pointless crusade to big up that far too overpriced political union folly at every single opportunity (definitely deliberately), and it's getting extremely tedious ripping every single one of your so-called "points" to shreds.

 

We're still doing checks on food from non-EU countries, like we always have done, it's just that we're not doing them on food from your beloved EU, just like we haven't done for the last 5 decades. Care to remind us all why we weren't doing checks on produce from the EU at our borders then? 🤔

Here's a tiny bit of a clue: It's precisely because we were in your beloved EU that was the reason we weren't doing food checks on produce from the EU at our borders.... because of the EU's free movement of goods within the EU's Single Market. 🤦🤦🤦🤦

 

Give your head a wobble pellinore, your 'Brexit Derangement Syndrome' ('BDS') has obviously clouded your ability to even think critically.

You started this thread in typical UK-bashing style by saying that, quote: "To help prevent sub-standard food entering the EU market, most UK foodstuffs will be labelled "Not for EU" this year", so in other words you would have us all believe that EU standards are gold plated. So good in fact that while we were members, no checks on any food or produce from the EU were deemed necessary anyway, because goods can move without restriction within the EU. Since we've left though, it's now imperative that produce from your beloved EU has to be thoroughly checked.

As I've already previously pointed out in my original reply above (#2), why the automatic assumption that EU food is of a higher standard than UK food, when EU countries have been dumping sub-standard produce into the UK for decades anyway, and that was whilst we were in your beloved EU, so where was your faux outrage about that? 🤔

If we were the dumping ground for sub-standard EU produce, then that obviously means your beloved EU's standards on produce aren't up to much to begin with then are they. 🤦

This further demonstrates how there is no consistency across the confused non-arguments of the indoctrinated Remoaner.

Heck, they've even been dumping their sub-standard food within their own market, which is why 14 EU vassals have seen an increase in salmonella cases. 👇👇👇👇🤦

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ROA_S-Enteritidis-ST11_chicken-meat_2023_amended.pdf

 

Rubbish. As well as our own home grown produce, the UK has multiple areas to source food from, and not just from your beloved EU either, and the produce those non-EU countries sell is now replacing food that we previously got from those 27 EU vassals, so no, it is not set to increase at all, because annoyingly for you, it's actually been decreasing. For instance Morocco is now seeing an increase in imports to the UK, as UK imports from your beloved EU is decreasing.

Don't you think it's a good thing that the UK is now trading more with poorer countries and helping bring them out of poverty, instead of restricting ourselves to the EU closed shop protectionist trade bloc because of a tendency to be insular and EU facing? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2024/01/360033/morocco-among-major-beneficiaries-of-brexit

 

If you lose your biggest supplier, you find another one. New trade partners will always be there to replace old trade partners, and there's absolutely nothing that those 27 EU vassals produce that cannot be sourced from elsewhere.

As we diverge away from your beloved EU, we will be less reliant on it, and your beloved EU's biggest problem now and into the future is that we can buy everything the EU sells elsewhere anyway, and much cheaper. The EU will have to compete, and prices will come down, or they won't sell. What was that you said again pellinore? 🤔

Ahhh yes, that was it: "That is (EU) profit lost through (EU) exports lost." 😂😂😂

In summary: Your beloved EU is just a middle man, nothing more, and we do not need it.

The Food Standards Agency deals with facts, not unicorns. They say as they introduce some of the problems:

Apart from issues already mentioned in section 2.4 concerning labour shortages the process of leaving the EU and establishing new trade relationships with the EU has created a multitude of issues affecting many stakeholders within the food system potentially impacting food safety and quality control mechanisms to varying degrees. The selection of issues presented here is based on their perceived high urgency and impact, as expressed by experts consulted for this study, while the small number of opportunities were mostly seen as being some way off. Issues in the following sections are not ranked in any particular way.

Food System Strategic Assessment: Trends and issues impacted by the Exit from the EU (Brexit) and regulatory change | Food Standards Agency

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17 minutes ago, pellinore said:

The Food Standards Agency deals with facts, not unicorns. They say as they introduce some of the problems:

Apart from issues already mentioned in section 2.4 concerning labour shortages the process of leaving the EU and establishing new trade relationships with the EU has created a multitude of issues affecting many stakeholders within the food system potentially impacting food safety and quality control mechanisms to varying degrees. The selection of issues presented here is based on their perceived high urgency and impact, as expressed by experts consulted for this study, while the small number of opportunities were mostly seen as being some way off. Issues in the following sections are not ranked in any particular way.

Food System Strategic Assessment: Trends and issues impacted by the Exit from the EU (Brexit) and regulatory change | Food Standards Agency

You just point blank refuse to listen don't you pellinore.

Again, YOU started this thread in typical UK-bashing style by saying that, quote: "To help prevent sub-standard food entering the EU market, most UK foodstuffs will be labelled "Not for EU" this year", so in other words you would have us all believe that EU standards are gold plated anyway, but now all of a sudden we're the dumping ground for sub-standard food produce coming from your beloved EU.

So which is it pellinore, either EU food is of the highest standard possible, or it isn't, because you can't have it both ways?

And will you FINALLY tell me why 14 EU vassals have seen an increase in salmonella cases if EU food is supposed to be of the highest quality?

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/ROA_S-Enteritidis-ST11_chicken-meat_2023_amended.pdf

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