U.K. Drug Shortages ‘Worse Than Ever’ As Brexit Continues To Bite (forbes.com)

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It is truly remarkable, with all the challenges facing all economies around the world, the UK decided to make its own situation so much worse by erecting trade barriers against itself. It affects all aspects of life. It is something no other country has done in history, and it was done to keep a handful of grifters in political power - and there are still UK citizens who think it is great! (It reminds them of living in the 1950s, when we had black and white TVs, ice on the inside of our windows and there were shortages of everything- except immigrants).

Global supply chain issues and the war in Ukraine have squeezed drug supplies across Europe, with the lingering impact of Brexit leaving the U.K. worse off than its neighbors, the Guardian suggested.

“For the UK, this situation has been exacerbated by pressures on drug prices from 2016, probably associated with the Brexit referendum pulling down the value of sterling,” said Mark Dayan, Brexit programme lead for think tank the Nuffield Trust.

“In the last two years, being outside the single market has added costs at the border with the EU, resulting in a drop in products passing into this country,” he told the Guardian.

Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told the British Medical Journal at the time: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

U.K. Drug Shortages ‘Worse Than Ever’ As Brexit Continues To Bite (forbes.com)

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2 hours ago, pellinore said:

It is truly remarkable, with all the challenges facing all economies around the world, the UK decided to make its own situation so much worse by erecting trade barriers against itself. It affects all aspects of life. It is something no other country has done in history, and it was done to keep a handful of grifters in political power - and there are still UK citizens who think it is great! (It reminds them of living in the 1950s, when we had black and white TVs, ice on the inside of our windows and there were shortages of everything- except immigrants).

Global supply chain issues and the war in Ukraine have squeezed drug supplies across Europe, with the lingering impact of Brexit leaving the U.K. worse off than its neighbors, the Guardian suggested.

“For the UK, this situation has been exacerbated by pressures on drug prices from 2016, probably associated with the Brexit referendum pulling down the value of sterling,” said Mark Dayan, Brexit programme lead for think tank the Nuffield Trust.

“In the last two years, being outside the single market has added costs at the border with the EU, resulting in a drop in products passing into this country,” he told the Guardian.

Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told the British Medical Journal at the time: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

U.K. Drug Shortages ‘Worse Than Ever’ As Brexit Continues To Bite (forbes.com)

Oh for crying out loud pellinore you Remoaners are absolutely bloody relentless. Is there nothing you won't latch onto in order to twist it around to further your pointless crusade to blame absolutely everything negative on Brexit?

So much for you being a patriot. What patriot takes great delight in deliberately sticking the knife into his own country?

From the 'European Directorate for the Quality of Medicines & HealthCare' (EDQM) website, quote: "Medicine shortages continue to threaten European healthcare systems, resulting in discontinuity of care and increasing costs. This problem predates 2020, but has been exacerbated by events related to the consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic and an unstable geopolitical situation."

If there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, then guess what Einstein, there would still be a shortage of medicines in the UK even if Brexit hadn't even happened. 🤦🤔

https://www.edqm.eu/en/edqm-initiatives-on-medicine-shortages

Edited January 16 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

29 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Oh for crying out loud pellinore you Remoaners are absolutely bloody relentless. Is there nothing you won't latch onto in order to twist it around to further your pointless crusade to blame absolutely everything negative on Brexit?

So much for you being a patriot. What patriot takes great delight in deliberately sticking the knife into his own country?

From the 'European Directorate for the Quality of Medicines & HealthCare' (EDQM) website, quote: "Medicine shortages continue to threaten European healthcare systems, resulting in discontinuity of care and increasing costs. This problem predates 2020, but has been exacerbated by events related to the consequences of the COVID-19 pandemic and an unstable geopolitical situation."

If there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, then guess what Einstein, there would still be a shortage of medicines in the UK even if Brexit hadn't even happened. 🤦🤔

https://www.edqm.eu/en/edqm-initiatives-on-medicine-shortages

There is not a single problem that Brexit has solved; it has only made things far worse. Can you think of some aspect of our lives that Brexit has improved?

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9 minutes ago, pellinore said:

There is not a single problem that Brexit has solved; it has only made things far worse. Can you think of some aspect of our lives that Brexit has improved?

Wake up pellinore, if there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, how would still being in the EU prevent the UK from being short of medicines then Einstein?

Edited January 16 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

8 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Wake up pellinore, if there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, how would still being in the EU prevent the UK from being short of medicines then Einstein?

That doesn't answer my question, does it? What aspect of our lives has improved because of Brexit?

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15 minutes ago, pellinore said:

That doesn't answer my question, does it? What aspect of our lives has improved because of Brexit?

That's because your question isn't in any way related to the question I posed to you regarding the original subject you posted about in the first place, which was that we "apparently" now have a shortage of medicines in the UK for no other reason than because of our democratically mandated exit from the European Union.

I'm sorry pellinore, you don't get to choose to blame something on Brexit, then avoid a question posed to you directly related to your original comment when it's pointed out to you that your beloved EU is also struggling with a shortage of medicines as well, and then pose an entirely different question in order to avoid addressing the question I originally asked you, that's not how it (or I) work.

Now stop deliberately avoiding a question that has naturally arisen as a direct result of your own original comment.

If there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, how would still being in the EU have prevented the UK from being short of medicines then Einstein? 🤔

Edited January 16 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

30 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

That's because your question isn't in any way related to the question I posed to you regarding the original subject you posted about in the first place, which was that we "apparently" now have a shortage of medicines in the UK for no other reason than because of our democratically mandated exit from the European Union.

I'm sorry pellinore, you don't get to choose to blame something on Brexit, then avoid a question posed to you directly related to your original comment when it's pointed out to you that your beloved EU is also struggling with a shortage of medicines as well, and then pose an entirely different question in order to avoid addressing the question I originally asked you, that's not how it (or I) work.

Now stop deliberately avoiding a question that has naturally arisen as a direct result of your own original comment.

If there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU anyway, how would still being in the EU have prevented the UK from being short of medicines then Einstein? 🤔

There is an international shortage of medicines, and the same with fruit and veg. The article doesn't claim Brexit has caused international problems, just extra problems for the UK.

From the article: "In the last two years, being outside the single market has added costs at the border with the EU, resulting in a drop in products passing into this country,” he told the Guardian.

Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told the British Medical Journal at the time: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

Somalia is worse off than the UK in most things, but that doesn't make the UK better now than before Brexit, does it? Your argument that things are bad in the EU is like arguing that a man who is paralysed after an accident is better off than he was before the accident because other people have cancer.

So again: in what way has Brexit improved our lives? You're a Brexiter, I bet you can rattle off dozens of examples from the top of your head.

 

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12 minutes ago, pellinore said:

There is an international shortage of medicines, and the same with fruit and veg. The article doesn't claim Brexit has caused international problems, just extra problems for the UK.

From the article: "In the last two years, being outside the single market has added costs at the border with the EU, resulting in a drop in products passing into this country,” he told the Guardian.

Martin McKee, professor of European public health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told the British Medical Journal at the time: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

Somalia is worse off than the UK in most things, but that doesn't make the UK better now than before Brexit, does it? Your argument that things are bad in the EU is like arguing that a man who is paralysed after an accident is better off than he was before the accident because other people have cancer.

So again: in what way has Brexit improved our lives? You're a Brexiter, I bet you can rattle off dozens of examples from the top of your head.

 

Again pellinore, stop deliberately changing the subject to avoid a question that has naturally arisen as a direct result of your own original post.

You know damn well the only reason you posted your original comment was because you wanted to blame UK medicine shortages on Brexit, and don't even bother to lie and tell me that you didn't, because we both know that you did.

Quite clearly you obviously seem to think there would be no medicine shortages in the UK if only Brexit hadn't happened, so with that in mind, if there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU, how would still being in the EU have prevented the UK from being short of medicines anyway then Einstein? 

Edited January 16 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

3 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

Again pellinore, stop deliberately changing the subject to avoid a question that has naturally arisen as a direct result of your own original post.

You know damn well the only reason you posted your original comment was because you wanted to blame UK medicine shortages on Brexit, and don't even bother to lie and tell me that you didn't, because we both know that you did.

Quite clearly you obviously seem to think there would be no medicine shortages in the UK if only Brexit hadn't happened, so with that in mind, if there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU, how would still being in the EU have prevented the UK from being short of medicines anyway then Einstein? 

I didn't say there would be no shortages. I quoted Prof Martin McKee. I just agree with him that Brexit always makes a bad situation worse.

You know better than him? He told the BMJ: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

 

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4 hours ago, pellinore said:

I didn't say there would be no shortages. I quoted Prof Martin McKee. I just agree with him that Brexit always makes a bad situation worse.

You know better than him? He told the BMJ: “Every country has been hit by supply chain disruptions, due to covid and geopolitics, but, as with most other walks of life, Brexit adds to the problems.”

 

Again pellinore, if there is already a shortage of medicines in your beloved EU, how would still being in the EU have prevented the UK from being short of medicines anyway then Mystic Meg?

https://www.edqm.eu/en/edqm-initiatives-on-medicine-shortages

Edited January 16 by Destination Unknown