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French farmers unite against EU rules and globalised markets.


L.A.T.1961

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Damien Brunelle spoke to FRANCE 24.

The prices of agricultural products are falling because we are flooded with products from Eastern European countries, including Ukraine. On top of this, we have regulations. France, for example, has completely banned a class of insecticides known as neonicotinoids.

Britain’s farmers are allowed to use the insecticide because they left the European Union. What's absurd is that we are talking about 17 grams of insecticide for every 10,000 square metres – it's a miniscule amount, like a vaccine, that helps protect beets in the first 60 days. The EU is deaf and blind.

 

The penny seems to have dropped.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240130-french-agriculture-bartered-away-farmers-protest-free-trade-eu-regulations

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32 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Damien Brunelle spoke to FRANCE 24.

The prices of agricultural products are falling because we are flooded with products from Eastern European countries, including Ukraine. On top of this, we have regulations. France, for example, has completely banned a class of insecticides known as neonicotinoids.

Britain’s farmers are allowed to use the insecticide because they left the European Union. What's absurd is that we are talking about 17 grams of insecticide for every 10,000 square metres – it's a miniscule amount, like a vaccine, that helps protect beets in the first 60 days. The EU is deaf and blind.

The penny seems to have dropped.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240130-french-agriculture-bartered-away-farmers-protest-free-trade-eu-regulations

It has a similar effect to nicotine according the Wiki.

The EU banned it because it makes bees stupid lol.

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7 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

It has a similar effect to nicotine according the Wiki.

The EU banned it because it makes bees stupid lol.

Bees are incredibly important to all of us. In May 2018, the European Union upheld a partial ban on three insecticides known as neonicotinoids to mitigate the lethal threat they pose to bees and their trickle-down effect on pollination as a whole.Why bees are essential to people and planet (unep.org)

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7 hours ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Damien Brunelle spoke to FRANCE 24.

The prices of agricultural products are falling because we are flooded with products from Eastern European countries, including Ukraine. On top of this, we have regulations. France, for example, has completely banned a class of insecticides known as neonicotinoids.

Britain’s farmers are allowed to use the insecticide because they left the European Union. What's absurd is that we are talking about 17 grams of insecticide for every 10,000 square metres – it's a miniscule amount, like a vaccine, that helps protect beets in the first 60 days. The EU is deaf and blind.

 

The penny seems to have dropped.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240130-french-agriculture-bartered-away-farmers-protest-free-trade-eu-regulations

While I agree the Common Agriculture Policy is not fit for purpose and is ripe for change (it rewards farmers for acreage, not land management) I don't agree with pesticides being used more widely.

 

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Let's use globalism for some good for a change.  We should focus on policies that everyone can agree upon, like banning China from international markets until it pays up for spreading COVID, stops organ harvesting, and introduces real elections, with international monitors.

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French farmers protest causes EU trade deal derailment. 

Farmers’ revolt fuels Mercosur angst in Paris, just as European Commission chief needs French backing for her second term.

Macron, the EU leader who most strongly opposes the Mercosur pact, wants to shield French agriculture.

With one private text message to European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, Emmanuel Macron attempted to blow up a trade deal with the Mercosur group of Latin American countries that has been two decades in the making.

The proposed accord, which would create a free trade area spanning nearly 800 million people, has become just too hot for the French president to handle as he battles to contain an uprising by farmers already furious over falling incomes. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/macrons-bombshell-text-threatens-to-wreck-von-der-leyens-trade-deal/

 

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5 hours ago, Alchopwn said:

Let's use globalism for some good for a change.  We should focus on policies that everyone can agree upon, like banning China from international markets until it pays up for spreading COVID, stops organ harvesting, and introduces real elections, with international monitors.

I`m against banning China, lets cap their exports instead.

We need to rebuild our industrial base before a full ban.

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Well this is getting rather tasty.

So it seems that all isn't as well in their beloved EUtopia as rabid europhiles such as @pellinore and @Ozymandias would try and have us all believe, with farmers who are opposed to crippling and oppressive EU regulations venting their utter frustration with meddling out of touch bureaucrats in Brussels by holding largescale mass protests across vast swathes of EU countries.

Now farmers in EU vassal Ireland want in on that action as well, with the 'Irish Farmers Association' ('IFA') set to hold a nationwide protest this evening (Thursday, 1st February 2024) in solidarity with their EU counterparts.

IFA President Francie Gorman said, quote: "Farmers here have been watching the protests across Europe. They are just as frustrated by what is happening as farmers in other countries. They feel they are being regulated out of business by Brussels bureaucrats and Department of Agriculture officials who are far removed from the reality of day-to-day farming." (But surely that's the price you have to pay for EU vassalage eh pellinore. 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/irish-farmers-to-stage-show-of-solidarity-with-european-counterparts/

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Belgian tractors park up in front of the EU Parliament during a day of protests while EU leaders meet in the city.  

February 1st, 2024

LIVE STREAM VIDEO (reuters) 

 

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Farmers protests latest: "Victory for Europe’s farmers as Brussels caves in on emissions targets and eating less meat."

"Ursula von der Leyen offers further concession by dropping her controversial proposal to halve pesticide use within six years" 👇👇👇👇

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/06/victory-europe-protesting-farmers-brussels-eu-back-down/

 

What a humiliating climbdown for the mighty EU eh. 😂😂😂😂

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1 hour ago, Destination Unknown said:

Farmers protests latest: "Victory for Europe’s farmers as Brussels caves in on emissions targets and eating less meat."

"Ursula von der Leyen offers further concession by dropping her controversial proposal to halve pesticide use within six years" 👇👇👇👇

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/02/06/victory-europe-protesting-farmers-brussels-eu-back-down/

 

What a humiliating climbdown for the mighty EU eh. 😂😂😂😂

Its amazing what an election year can do to focus the mind. 

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17 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Its amazing what an election year can do to focus the mind. 

As Margaret Thatcher, the last decent British Prime Minister we had that had the stones to actually stand up to these unelected bureaucrats in Brussels once said: "They're a weak lot some of them in Europe you know. Weak. Feeble."

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This really highlights why the EU sucks. Damages their food production chain while simultaneously letting in cheap imports from Ukraine and South America and then they wonder why their citizens suffer - absolutely deaf to how people live and abuse their power by listening to whoever has their ear in a given moment rather than understanding the issue. Glad we are out.

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What a load of tosh by the Brexiteers! They cannot point to anything positive about Brexit, but instead fixate on the EU, characterising the success of the recent pan-European farmers' protests as reflecting badly on Brussels. The facts are that their success is simply a demonstration of how well public protest works in a democracy. It is an example of people-power.

Tractor demonstrations by Irish farmers are fairly common, as is also the case with continental farmers. When was the last time tractors were driven up to Westminster? Were they ever? Do UK farmers ever publicly protest?  

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58 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

What a load of tosh by the Brexiteers! They cannot point to anything positive about Brexit, but instead fixate on the EU, characterising the success of the recent pan-European farmers' protests as reflecting badly on Brussels. The facts are that their success is simply a demonstration of how well public protest works in a democracy. It is an example of people-power.

Tractor demonstrations by Irish farmers are fairly common, as is also the case with continental farmers. When was the last time tractors were driven up to Westminster? Were they ever? Do UK farmers ever publicly protest?  

What a load of absolute nonsense. How did I know that was how you were going to spin such a humiliating climbdown? So predictable.

These unelected Brussels bureaucrats imposed their draconian regulations without once considering the people it will effect the most, the farmers. It's only because of the inevitable backlash that they've climbed down, not because they thought it was the right thing to do. It should never have come to that in the first place, so no matter how you try and spin it, this does reflect badly on Brussels.

And as for Brexit positives, well for a start we're finally out of that crumbling political union folly, that's benefit enough for me. But here's some more:

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/374135-brexit-the-positives/

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These are wise words from a Tory grandee of honour and integrity.

 

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1 hour ago, Ozymandias said:

These are wise words from a Tory grandee of honour and integrity.

 

If John Major had had the "honour and integrity" to actually ask the British people whether we even wanted to be a part of this European political "Project" before he took it upon himself to sign 'The Maastricht Treaty' then this European political union folly would have been rightfully rejected by the British people back in 1992.

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4 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

If John Major had had the "honour and integrity" to actually ask the British people whether we even wanted to be a part of this European political "Project" before he took it upon himself to sign 'The Maastricht Treaty' then this European political union folly would have been rightfully rejected by the British people back in 1992.

The only reason we got a vote is Cameron miscalculated that we would vote to stay due to austerity.

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16 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

The only reason we got a vote is Cameron miscalculated that we would vote to stay due to austerity.

I seem to recall that the world was just as surprised by Brexit as they were by the Trump victory in 2016.  It's like they were so full of themselves that they never saw it coming. :) 

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6 hours ago, and-then said:

I seem to recall that the world was just as surprised by Brexit as they were by the Trump victory in 2016.  It's like they were so full of themselves that they never saw it coming. :) 

And both were disasters that just keep "disastering".

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On 2/7/2024 at 8:01 AM, OpenMindedSceptic said:

This really highlights why the EU sucks. Damages their food production chain while simultaneously letting in cheap imports from Ukraine and South America and then they wonder why their citizens suffer - absolutely deaf to how people live and abuse their power by listening to whoever has their ear in a given moment rather than understanding the issue. Glad we are out.

It is a shame the UK and the other countries of Europe can't combine or join in some way to support each other. If only there was some economic and political means of uniting and supporting each other, by combining our trading and economic power to compete with the US, China and Russia. I keep thinking there was once, but perhaps it is a false memory.

He said trade deals agreed since Brexit had created an "utterly soul-destroying" situation.

The government said it was looking at how to improve supply chain fairness.

It said agriculture had been at the "forefront" of negotiated deals since the UK left the EU and its £2.4bn annual farming budget was providing support to the industry.

Mr Gibson, from Yew Tree Farm in Wingham, Kent, said: "It seems harder to export goods out of the UK but importing goods in does not seem to have changed.

Dover farmer protests organiser says action could escalate - BBC News

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6 hours ago, pellinore said:

It is a shame the UK and the other countries of Europe can't combine or join in some way to support each other. If only there was some economic and political means of uniting and supporting each other, by combining our trading and economic power to compete with the US, China and Russia. I keep thinking there was once, but perhaps it is a false memory.

He said trade deals agreed since Brexit had created an "utterly soul-destroying" situation.

The government said it was looking at how to improve supply chain fairness.

It said agriculture had been at the "forefront" of negotiated deals since the UK left the EU and its £2.4bn annual farming budget was providing support to the industry.

If the farmers are right, then it obviously means that leaving the EU made food cheaper, just like Brexiteers said it would. 🤔

"Farmers say there will be further French-style blockades following a slow tractor protest at Dover against low supermarket prices and cheap food imports from post-Brexit trade deals." 👇👇👇👇

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/10/uk-farmers-vow-to-mount-more-blockades-over-cheap-post-brexit-imports-and-supermarket-prices

 

6 hours ago, pellinore said:

Mr Gibson, from Yew Tree Farm in Wingham, Kent, said: "It seems harder to export goods out of the UK but importing goods in does not seem to have changed."

Strange, considering the 'food & drink federation' (fdf) reported in September 2023 that food and drink had achieved record export figures for the first half of 2023, driven by growing EU demand. 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.fdf.org.uk/fdf/news-media/press-releases/2023-press-releases/record-uk-food-and-drink-exports-driven-by-growing-eu-demand/

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