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Congressman challenges the WH to share info on a "serious national security threat"


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It isn't imminent but it IS serious enough to brief the Congress on.  Of course, the Dems are acting surprised that anyone would call the WH out on this...

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13 minutes ago, and-then said:

 

It isn't imminent but it IS serious enough to brief the Congress on.  Of course, the Dems are acting surprised that anyone would call the WH out on this...

Well those blasted democrats, acting all surprised and what not. Iranian news is reporting Russia has developed a capability that can neutralise US space assets. If true would have an imminent impact on the Ukrainian war

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Never mind, thought this was about something else

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28 minutes ago, and-then said:

 

It isn't imminent but it IS serious enough to brief the Congress on.  Of course, the Dems are acting surprised that anyone would call the WH out on this...

But what is it?

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Why doesn't the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence release the information on the threat?  Is it Martians?  Mole men?  Invaders from dimension X?  An asteroid from space?  Who are our allies in this matter?  

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The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! 

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21 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Yup, it's the Russians: 'Serious national security threat' is 'Russia wanting to put a nuclear weapon in SPACE': Biden urged to declassify all materials after ominous warning from top Republican Mike Turner (msn.com)

Darn Russians.  Maybe if we give them Alaska, the Ukraine, and make Trump president, they will stop.

I thought Barak Obama told Mitt Romney the 80s wanted their foreign policy back when it pertains to Russia being a threat?

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Extraordinary. Whatever it is, it appears serious enough to concern the intelligence community and Congress, both encouraging disclosure & involvement by the White House.

Seems some here and elsewhere are speculating it involves Russian nukes or laser weaponry in space with abilities to take-out GPS and military satellites in a "flash"--- sounds right.

That is an awesomely effective military pre-position strategy, of course.

Looking forward to more news and what you guys find-out... you're excellent at sleuthing!

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The cynic in me says it could also just be some propaganda as well to get people on board with WWIII....  since many don't seem to be buying the Ukraine defense.

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5 hours ago, Edumakated said:

I thought Barak Obama told Mitt Romney the 80s wanted their foreign policy back when it pertains to Russia being a threat?

Well, to be honest, the Tan Messiah IS a greater threat to America than Russia ever has been... just sayin'

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5 hours ago, pallidin said:

Extraordinary. Whatever it is, it appears serious enough to concern the intelligence community and Congress, both encouraging disclosure & involvement by the White House.

Seems some here and elsewhere are speculating it involves Russian nukes or laser weaponry in space with abilities to take-out GPS and military satellites in a "flash"--- sounds right.

That is an awesomely effective military pre-position strategy, of course.

Looking forward to more news and what you guys find-out... you're excellent at sleuthing!

 

6 hours ago, acidhead said:

The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! 

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Or the mullahs?  This could just as plausibly be that Tehran has finally reached the point in its weapons program where our intel people, even in the current regime, have finally had to admit Iran is about to test or very likely HAS tested a bomb.  As for the Russians, zapping all of a great power's "eyes on the world" would be one hell of a gamble.  "Use them or lose them", as it were.

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7 hours ago, and-then said:

 

It isn't imminent but it IS serious enough to brief the Congress on.  Of course, the Dems are acting surprised that anyone would call the WH out on this...

Congress has been informed, are they not also adults?  Who is going to respond to this threat? Don't we have committees in both Houses to deal with security issues?  Wouldn't experience  in defense issues be useful?  It is not going to be Hannity, Tucker, and all of the talking heads on both sides of the media.  As long as the WH isn't keeping it a secret, but it has been shared it with Congress, then maybe Congress should discuss it before releasing the data for the talking heads to use to stir up panic and get viewer hits.

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7 hours ago, OverSword said:

But what is it?

He couldn't spill the beans without someone putting him in prison.  It would be leaking classified info, but even worse, he'd be doing it while Republican.  Even if he gave such a scoop to a "reporter" he thought was trustworthy, do you doubt that our friends in the alphabet agencies wouldn't gulag a reporter to get to the source?  This way, it puts pressure on whoever the hell is running things, to choose to inform the public of something that sounds like it might be politically embarrassing or to roll the dice and hope nothing happens as a result of this threat.

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12 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

As long as the WH isn't keeping it a secret, but it has been shared it with Congress

If WH keeps it classified then any congressperson that chose to leak it would be guilty of a felony and if that member also happened to be a Republican they'd almost certainly be indicted for it.  Are you trying to tell us you think Congress wouldn't keep a secret from the public just because it might be politically inconvenient or embarrassing?  We all know they are more likely to do that than to do the right thing.  As I said... he played this perfectly because now, whoever is running things in that "administration" has to decide to inform the country and risk some embarrassment (why else would they hide it?) or roll the dice and hope we don't suffer an attack that can then be traced back to this threat that we might have done something about.

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14 minutes ago, and-then said:

he played this perfectly because now, whoever is running things in that "administration" has to decide to inform the country and risk some embarrassment (why else would they hide it?) or roll the dice and hope we don't suffer an attack that can then be traced back to this threat that we might have done something about.

I'm sorry, what?  What does declassification have to do with neutralizing a threat?  Do you think if And Then from bumduck *******ville knew about a certain threat, we'd have a better chance of taking care of it?

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2 hours ago, and-then said:

we don't suffer an attack that can then be traced back to this threat that we might have done something about.

That is exactly the point. The people who have been told about it are exactly the ones who have the power to declare  war or impeach a president,  To be brutally honest, we can't do a damn thing about it, except stock up on canning jars, ammo, and TP.

But the media can.  It can be a tool to whip up a nameless fear, or confirm the existence of nightmares. That is the power to push people in any direction and stampeding over the edge if it serves. That is the fear wave that is going to start, or already has.

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8 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

That is exactly the point. The people who have been told about it are exactly the ones who have the power to declare  war or impeach a president,  To be brutally honest, we can't do a damn thing about it, except stock up on canning jars, ammo, and TP.

But the media can.  It can be a tool to whip up a nameless fear, or confirm the existence of nightmares. That is the power to push people in any direction and stampeding over the edge if it serves. That is the fear wave that is going to start, or already has.

Yes, it isn't a coincidence that members of either party's administrations go on to lucrative careers in so-called private news media after "serving" the public. 

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11 hours ago, acidhead said:

Yes, it isn't a coincidence that members of either party's administrations go on to lucrative careers in so-called private news media after "serving" the public. 

Well, you might say making promises and empty speeches is good training for a career in broadcasting.

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Sound like poor Mike Turner is getting quite a bit of backlash over his statement.  His fellow Republicans are saying it's just fear propoganda to pass the Ukraine/Border bill.

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Go home Twitter. Your drunk.

Watching too many science fiction or spy movies it seems. Lol.

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7 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Sound like poor Mike Turner is getting quite a bit of backlash over his statement.  His fellow Republicans are saying it's just fear propoganda to pass the Ukraine/Border bill.

I was OK until the Speaker said "Don't Panic."  Then I got worried.  Then he said but its OK we are going on vacation for a couple of weeks.  So I guess nothing pressing after all.

 

7 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Sound like poor Mike Turner is getting quite a bit of backlash over his statement.  His fellow Republicans are saying it's just fear propoganda to pass the Ukraine/Border bill.

I wonder if it was a fear tactic  to influence the election.  Be afraid of Biden, elect Trump because Trump is Putin's friend.  Seems like some folk always need something to fear.

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"It is obvious that the White House is trying, by hook or by crook, to encourage Congress to vote on a bill to allocate money, this is obvious," said spokesman Dmitry Peskov"

 

That is exactly what America has been doing for a long time . I do agree that they should take each opportunity to increase military spending against terrorist nations attacking western values that seem to be increasing. America is really the last stand against these malicious factors that have already plagued EU, Australia, Canada and other nations 

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And Biden was heard to say, "C'Mon Man! There ain't no radio stations up in space. That's why they call it space, there's nothing there...".

Seriously though, I'd say the use if a space based weapon, against the US, or an ally, would be a trigger of a bigger engagement, and the Russians really can't handle that right now.

I don't think they could even beat Poland, who we've armed so well.

Sure, they got nukes, and other high end stuff, but they dare not use any of it. Any second front, or invasion of Russia by the west would be very hard for them to resist. It's I dictator Putins best interest to posture, but do nothing.

We said much the same before the Ukraine invasion, here in UM. But he invaded anyway, and that's been nothing but trouble for Putin since. He should have stuck to threats and talking tough.

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