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16 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Wow 😄 ... Are you sure that you are ok?

I'm fine, thank you. I am just like @Essan said:

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... a good good, obedient citizen and believe what...

the government wants me to believe, that UFOs are real and intelligent.

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2 hours ago, MrsGently said:

I am saying I got the trifecta of discrediting all UFO discussions on this forum @Hazzard & @Trelane & @Essan here displaying their school yard bully attitude for everybody to see.

It doesn't bother me you know. I am used to people being too stupid to understand what I am saying so to me you cause me just a shrug and a meh... I just think it is a little embarrasing when you not even try to hide that this is some sort of 'almost sexual' dominance sport for you people without imagination. Or a clue.

When the CIA says the UFO phenomenon is real I am listening. When the French government says the same thing, and I add my own research and experience I am willing to believe that. Like a good 85% that this is what is really happening.

I need neither of you to believe it. You can clown away and display to the whole world what a###h##es you are, that is really not my problem.

You only discredit yourself with this sort of behaviour not me.

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You clearly have a reading comprehension as none of the three you've tagged try to bully or discredit anyone. 

We simply ask pertinent questions that we hope to provide clarification, corroboration or specification of those making or supporting fantastical claims. Our (and others) viewpoints obviously come from a more grounded and scientific standpoint. If we were in fact bullying as you claim, we would have been warned by the site moderators/admins for such behavior. I know for me specifically, that I have never received such a warning. Whining about contrasting opinions is not a good look for you. Having a moan about those who won't back down when others, such as yourself, resort to antagonism and redirection is not bullying. So, you can stall out with this nonsense. Good day to you.

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8 minutes ago, Trelane said:

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You clearly have a reading comprehension as none of the three you've tagged try to bully or discredit anyone. 

We simply ask pertinent questions that we hope to provide clarification, corroboration or specification of those making or supporting fantastical claims. Our (and others) viewpoints obviously come from a more grounded and scientific standpoint. If we were in fact bullying as you claim, we would have been warned by the site moderators/admins for such behavior. I know for me specifically, that I have never received such a warning. Whining about contrasting opinions is not a good look for you. Having a moan about those who won't back down when others, such as yourself, resort to antagonism and redirection is not bullying. So, you can stall out with this nonsense. Good day to you.

LOL

Did you not follow the conversation? According to you guys you know more than the CIA and the French government. I beg to differ. I don't even whine (you're not even getting that right) I am making fun of you. Big difference.

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4 minutes ago, MrsGently said:

LOL

Did you not follow the conversation? According to you guys you know more than the CIA and the French government. I beg to differ. I don't even whine (you're not even getting that right) I am making fun of you. Big difference.

We don't believe everything the CIA tell us.

You do

Therein lies our difference

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9 minutes ago, Essan said:

We don't believe everything the CIA tell us.

You do

Therein lies our difference

Oh so you're one of those Q people? The gov is out to get you and all is lies and the deep state wants to kill you that sort of thing?

Pretty rich though to LARP as 'sceptics' when you on the other hand have obviously big paranoia issues. That ain't scepticism...

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10 minutes ago, MrsGently said:

Oh so you're one of those Q people?

Er, no.   

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2 hours ago, MrsGently said:

I'm fine, thank you. I am just like @Essan said:

the government wants me to believe, that UFOs are real and intelligent.

It is certain that not everyone can identify all flying objects.

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4 hours ago, MrsGently said:

I am saying I got the trifecta of discrediting all UFO discussions on this forum @Hazzard & @Trelane & @Essan here displaying their school yard bully attitude for everybody to see.

It doesn't bother me you know. I am used to people being too stupid to understand what I am saying so to me you cause me just a shrug and a meh... I just think it is a little embarrasing when you not even try to hide that this is some sort of 'almost sexual' dominance sport for you people without imagination. Or a clue.

When the CIA says the UFO phenomenon is real I am listening. When the French government says the same thing, and I add my own research and experience I am willing to believe that. Like a good 85% that this is what is really happening.

I need neither of you to believe it. You can clown away and display to the whole world what a###h##es you are, that is really not my problem.

You only discredit yourself with this sort of behaviour not me.

@Hazzard posted a very reasonable analysis of Cold War intelligence doctrine, that may be a explanation for many high profile UFO encounters.

You may disagree with this, and that is fine, if you wanted to challenge this assertion, the floor is yours go ahead.

However, you have simply inserted yourself into the thread, and attacked several posters, including the creator of the thread, normally symptomatic of someone without the ability to actually objectively oppose the subject.

Given the fact that ALL of the posters you have highlighted are responding to your own initial ad hominem post, I have to ask you, who is the bully here?

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1 hour ago, MrsGently said:

LOL

Did you not follow the conversation? According to you guys you know more than the CIA and the French government. I beg to differ. I don't even whine (you're not even getting that right) I am making fun of you. Big difference.

Provide an example where I have stated that I know more than the CIA or French Govt. Please and thank you.

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On 2/16/2024 at 9:53 PM, Trelane said:

Provide an example where I have stated that I know more than the CIA or French Govt. Please and thank you.

This might take a while... 🙂

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14 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

This might take a while... 🙂

I kinda knew it when I didn't a snappy response right away as she (?) normally does. I'll give it time though. 

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UAP study is a synonym for distortion, fabrication and misrepresentation and has been for its entire history. 

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22 minutes ago, asper said:

UAP study is a synonym for distortion, fabrication and misrepresentation and has been for its entire history. 

Imagine the disappointment of the true believers 🤯  

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18 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Imagine the disappointment of the true believers 🤯  

UFOs are showbiz especially in the US. 

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5 minutes ago, asper said:

UFOs are showbiz especially in the US. 

yep, tons of cash to be earned... this is the only reason this BS has been kept alive for the past phew 50/70? years. A cash cow for those in a position to gain from it.. i wouldn't even know where to start with the list of many names over the years!

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5 hours ago, Dejarma said:

yep, tons of cash to be earned... this is the only reason this BS has been kept alive for the past phew 50/70? years. A cash cow for those in a position to gain from it.. i wouldn't even know where to start with the list of many names over the years!

So great is the Grey alien mania and so lucrative is the UFO lecture circuit in the US that any objective study of this phenomena, if indeed there ever was one has long been lost beneath all the contrived glitzy drama. MUFON for example is virtually a theatrical troupe comprised of travelling players. 

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5 hours ago, Dejarma said:

 A cash cow for those in a position to gain from it.. i wouldn't even know where to start with the list of many names over the years!

Here is a good start... The UFO Hall of Shame. 

http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall_of_shame.htm

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40 minutes ago, asper said:

MUFON for example is virtually a theatrical troupe comprised of travelling players. 

I like that 😁

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4 minutes ago, asper said:

I'm surprised Philip Klass is on the list but the queen of kookiness Linda Moulton Howe is conspicuous by her absence. 

just seen ^this^- HA, great minds think alike 😉

she is listed

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On 2/16/2024 at 4:51 AM, MrsGently said:

for soemone who can't even adress the intended audience without discrediting like a few million people who all have significantly more experience and knowledge

Umm, do you mean in spelling and grammar?

Mrs Gently, could you please prove to me how superior you are at that research, by posting what you think is the best evidenced UFO=alienz/whatever case you know of?

Thanks.  And don't be shy - prove your opinion by showing how bad we sqeptics are.  Oops, freudian slip.

If not, then maybe you should look up 'ad hominem'..

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28 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

Umm, do you mean in spelling and grammar?

Mrs Gently, could you please prove to me how superior you are at that research, by posting what you think is the best evidenced UFO=alienz/whatever case you know of?

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LOL no totally no need whatsoever on my end. Thanks for the offer. Try to fool someone else.

 

If you're sincerely looking for the resident expert on these boards I'd start looking here. that fellow might be able to help you out with your questions.

Skyeagle's research thread

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1 hour ago, MrsGently said:

If you're sincerely looking for the resident expert on these boards I'd start looking here. that fellow might be able to help you out with your questions.

Skyeagle's research thread

 

The poor birdies claims has been laughed out of court to many times to count. Every single one. Go and read the Best Evidence thread, its all there... The spamming, the deliberate misrepresentations, the fake UFO video, the total disrespect for the forum rules... resident expert my ass!

...or is there one case that you feel still has some validity?

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24 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

 

The poor birdies claims has been laughed out of court to many times to count. Every single one.

...or is there one that you feel still has some validity?

Yeah, a very important thread indeed from the "resident expert" as the missus states.😂

Only 12 interactions and some of it is him spamming the same old stuff...again. 🤣

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