Shamima Begum loses Court of Appeal bid to have UK citizenship restored.

[itsnotoutthere]

This is the moment Shamima Begum loses her challenge over the removal of her British citizenship at the Court of Appeal.

Ms Begum travelled to Syria in 2015 aged 15 and her citizenship was revoked on national security grounds shortly after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp in February 2019.

Last year, the now 24-year-old lost a challenge against the decision at the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC), which said the removal of her citizenship was lawful.

Ms Begum’s lawyers brought a bid to overturn that decision at the Court of Appeal, with the Home Office opposing the challenge.

In a ruling on Friday (23 February), three judges dismissed Ms Begum’s bid.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watch-moment-shamima-begum-loses-court-of-appeal-bid-to-have-uk-citizenship-restored/ar-BB1iLf1X?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=a3b99746f2974739ea51d88f1bd5d3f2&ei=16

Don't worry love, Kier Starmer will be prime minister soon, try again then, he'll sort it for you. 

[Setton]

1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Don't worry love, Kier Starmer will be prime minister soon, try again then, he'll sort it for you. 

Good that you're prepared for your upcoming defeat at least.

And how much would you like to bet on Starmer reversing this? I'll give you good odds.

[Piney]

She should of been hung.

[itsnotoutthere]

1 hour ago, Setton said:

Good that you're prepared for your upcoming defeat at least.

And how much would you like to bet on Starmer reversing this? I'll give you good odds.

"My upcoming defeat"  !!!

I never voted for this government. ...but lesser of 2 evils & all that.

Your soon to be PM :-

Edited February 23 by itsnotoutthere

[+ouija ouija]

1 hour ago, itsnotoutthere said:

This is the moment Shamima Begum loses her challenge over the removal of her British citizenship at the Court of Appeal.

 

[Setton]

2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

"My upcoming defeat"  !!!

I never voted for this government. ...but lesser of 2 evils & all that.

I'm equally confident the party you choose to support will also lose miserably.

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Your soon to be PM :-

And yours too 🙂

[Duke Wellington]

3 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

This is the moment Shamima Begum loses her challenge over the removal of her British citizenship at the Court of Appeal.

Ms Begum travelled to Syria in 2015 aged 15 and her citizenship was revoked on national security grounds shortly after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp in February 2019.

Last year, the now 24-year-old lost a challenge against the decision at the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC), which said the removal of her citizenship was lawful.

Ms Begum’s lawyers brought a bid to overturn that decision at the Court of Appeal, with the Home Office opposing the challenge.

In a ruling on Friday (23 February), three judges dismissed Ms Begum’s bid.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/watch-moment-shamima-begum-loses-court-of-appeal-bid-to-have-uk-citizenship-restored/ar-BB1iLf1X?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=a3b99746f2974739ea51d88f1bd5d3f2&ei=16

Don't worry love, Kier Starmer will be prime minister soon, try again then, he'll sort it for you. 

Correct decision.

[Duke Wellington]

2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

"My upcoming defeat"  !!!

I never voted for this government. ...but lesser of 2 evils & all that.

Your soon to be PM :-

It won`t be a Labour government.

There is stuff going on in the Tory party at the moment in preparation for the election campaign. A pleasant surprise is on its way for the electorate. We are going to be given a referendum to set the immigration limit per year.

Thats an election winner.

Edited February 23 by Electric Scooter

[+ouija ouija]

1 hour ago, Electric Scooter said:

It won`t be a Labour government.

There is stuff going on in the Tory party at the moment in preparation for the election campaign. A pleasant surprise is on its way for the electorate. We are going to be given a referendum to set the immigration limit per year.

Thats an election winner.

Problem is, no one will make sure that the majority's wishes are carried out.

[+OverSword]

24 minutes ago, ouija ouija said:

Problem is, no one will make sure that the majority's wishes are carried out.

Brexit was.

[+ouija ouija]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

Brexit was.

Er . . . no, it wasn't. Not fully.

[Slugnutty]

6 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

It won`t be a Labour government.

There is stuff going on in the Tory party at the moment in preparation for the election campaign. A pleasant surprise is on its way for the electorate. We are going to be given a referendum to set the immigration limit per year.

Thats an election winner.

Cant argue with that. Probably more women than you even realise don’t have a penis. 

[Slugnutty]

6 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

It won`t be a Labour government.

There is stuff going on in the Tory party at the moment in preparation for the election campaign. A pleasant surprise is on its way for the electorate. We are going to be given a referendum to set the immigration limit per year.

Thats an election winner.

This would be completely absurd and so will never happen. 

Anyway. The threat of sending everyone to Rwanda will do the trick. 
 

[Unusual Tournament]

13 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

It won`t be a Labour government.

There is stuff going on in the Tory party at the moment in preparation for the election campaign. A pleasant surprise is on its way for the electorate. We are going to be given a referendum to set the immigration limit per year.

Thats an election winner.

I agree! Every election should include a referendum on the issues of the day and hold the wining party accountable to ensure the people’s wishes are acted upon 

[Duke Wellington]

1 minute ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I agree! Every election should include a referendum on the issues of the day and hold the wining party accountable to ensure the people’s wishes are acted upon 

Everyone log into your democracy account and vote for what you want on every single topic.

[Unusual Tournament]

11 minutes ago, Electric Scooter said:

Everyone log into your democracy account and vote for what you want on every single topic.

Don’t know if that’s tongue in cheek but yes, we should have an app to vote from and not advocating government by consensus BUT a couple of non partisan issues to vote on and be enacted would seem reasonable 

Edited February 24 by Unusual Tournament

[Duke Wellington]

3 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said:

Don’t know if that’s tongue in cheek but yes, we should have an app to vote from and not advocating government by consensus BUT a couple of non partisan issues to vote on and be enacted would seem reasonable 

Open up the whole system except for national security to internet democracy.

We should be voting on every other topic, and it should be law that the government has to execute the will of the people.

[pellinore]

12 hours ago, ouija ouija said:

Er . . . no, it wasn't. Not fully.

We left the EU. That was the question on the ballot (Should the UK leave or remain in the EU?). So it was carried out to the letter- and I keep being told you all knew exactly what you were voting for.

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I agree! Every election should include a referendum on the issues of the day and hold the wining party accountable to ensure the people’s wishes are acted upon 

That would be madness. And lead to chaos. Imagine if the UK had to enact policies based on the views of people who 'do their own research' every 5 years.

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, pellinore said:

That would be madness. And lead to chaos. Imagine if the UK had to enact policies based on the views of people who 'do their own research' every 5 years.

You’re entitled to your view. I can’t see anything wrong with asking the electorate do they want immigration capped at a certain level OR terms of government. 

[pellinore]

3 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

You’re entitled to your view. I can’t see anything wrong with asking the electorate do they want immigration capped at a certain level OR terms of government. 

The point of parliamentary democracy is that we elect people to take those sorts of decisions, backed by expert advice. A few years ago we changed from FOM to a points-based immigrations system, which the majority of the electorate wanted.  The result- immigration has gone up from 230,000 in 2019 to 1.5 million last year, with over 400,000 projected annually over the next few years. And we still have 900,000 job vacancies.

Ask some of the electorate now, and they would say all immigration should be stopped- and the country would grind to a halt.

And it is all the result of a populist govt giving us "the will of the people" instead of sensible policies. The Law of Unintended Consequences would be with us always.

Edited February 24 by pellinore

[Duke Wellington]

7 hours ago, pellinore said:

That would be madness. And lead to chaos. Imagine if the UK had to enact policies based on the views of people who 'do their own research' every 5 years.

The solution is to let people vote on what they are qualified to vote on only.

The problem you point out exists with regular elections too. People vote for whatever politician manipulates them the most with no real understanding about how an economy works and a range of other issues.

Edited February 24 by Electric Scooter

[Duke Wellington]

2 hours ago, pellinore said:

The point of parliamentary democracy is that we elect people to take those sorts of decisions, backed by expert advice. A few years ago we changed from FOM to a points-based immigrations system, which the majority of the electorate wanted.  The result- immigration has gone up from 230,000 in 2019 to 1.5 million last year, with over 400,000 projected annually over the next few years. And we still have 900,000 job vacancies.

Ask some of the electorate now, and they would say all immigration should be stopped- and the country would grind to a halt.

And it is all the result of a populist govt giving us "the will of the people" instead of sensible policies. The Law of Unintended Consequences would be with us always.

Its the result of offsetting the damage from Russian sanctions.

Fake economic growth using large numbers of migrants.

[Setton]

10 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

Open up the whole system except for national security to internet democracy.

We should be voting on every other topic, and it should be law that the government has to execute the will of the people.

That would collapse the country overnight. Every policy decision would just be the most popular, regardless of the consequences. You'd run out of money in minutes.

[Saru]

2 hours ago, Electric Scooter said:

The solution is to let people vote on what they are qualified to vote on only.

How would you determine who was qualified to vote on a given topic and how would you eliminate political bias and manipulation from the vote ?