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How I See The Universe - The Pet Theory Show


MrsGently

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A. Wheeler came up with the idea that our universe arises from 'it to bit' that the fundamental basis is not the particles and waves but the information they carry. It reminds one a little bit of the ancient philosophy of 'ideas creating reality', but instead of the bigger concept of 'flower' or 'bread' in the human mind being responsible for the existence of these things, it requires the entire universe being a 'information processing device'.

Personally I enjoy the idea that the Higgs Field ie 'that which gives all things mass' is exactly that: the 'scanning/printing' area of the universe processing the bits putting them together in neat particle-packages to release it out into the information storage unit of unorganic matter and energy fields and such to be the basis for matter with the ability to 'read the code'.

I also like to think about how the biggest issue our quantum computers have is that you need to 'shield them'. They interact like crazy with everything. It could be that this is indication that the universe is a quantum computer on its own. I would love that to be honest. Imagine once we crack how quantum computing works our processing and storage limit would be the volume of the universe!?

I mean sure: speculative. That's why I put it in philosophy and not in science. But it's my little pet theory and I love it very much. What's yours?

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Had to read that more than once 😅  I like it.

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1 hour ago, OverSword said:

Had to read that more than once 😅  I like it.

 

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Great topic! 

My pet theory goes something like this - this universe and all of matter, with or without life, arises from Consciousness. To clarify what I mean, consciousness in this sense, should not be confused with Awareness, wherein one can experience with their sensory organs, think, make decisions, imagine, dream, etc. We can think of it in terms of Potential - the potential to simply exist. Again, to clarify, I'm not talking in terms of spirituality, religious beliefs, something divine, etc. so the question of a higher consciousness or anything becomes irrelevant. 

If we assume that everything has a consciousness, we can say that they already had the potential to exist. If I trace back to my ancestors hundreds and thousands of years back, I can say that I always had the potential to exist. Even if we go back to the first multi cellular organisms, and even before that, and even before that, and so on. Therefore, if we assume that everything has a consciousness - people, animals, even the furniture, buildings, even the stars and the planets and everything in the cosmos, the big bang would be just the kick-start of it all. And furthermore, when we say that everything came from nothing, perhaps we can think that everything came from always having that potential - in other words, when there was nothing, there was Potential (Consciousness).

Just my 2 cents on this subject. 😊

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18 minutes ago, dlonewolf85 said:

Great topic! 

My pet theory goes something like this - this universe and all of matter, with or without life, arises from Consciousness. To clarify what I mean, consciousness in this sense, should not be confused with Awareness, wherein one can experience with their sensory organs, think, make decisions, imagine, dream, etc. We can think of it in terms of Potential - the potential to simply exist. Again, to clarify, I'm not talking in terms of spirituality, religious beliefs, something divine, etc. so the question of a higher consciousness or anything becomes irrelevant. 

If we assume that everything has a consciousness, we can say that they already had the potential to exist. If I trace back to my ancestors hundreds and thousands of years back, I can say that I always had the potential to exist. Even if we go back to the first multi cellular organisms, and even before that, and even before that, and so on. Therefore, if we assume that everything has a consciousness - people, animals, even the furniture, buildings, even the stars and the planets and everything in the cosmos, the big bang would be just the kick-start of it all. And furthermore, when we say that everything came from nothing, perhaps we can think that everything came from always having that potential - in other words, when there was nothing, there was Potential (Consciousness).

Just my 2 cents on this subject. 😊

I was raised with that belief. But I believe in a cyclical Universe which always existed and dies with a big collapse and is reborn with a big bang.

There's a physical law which covers everything. The Law of Increasing Functional Complexity which explained how molecules came together and created hydrogen and helium, then elements became more complexed by the processes of fusion in stars through their different generations. Then these elements combined and became minerals and life and as life grows more complex so do minerals. 

It's interesting that this natural law always leads up to life. So I'm pantheistic and think the Universe is living, but still learning. Then again. It's my opinion and probably wrong. 

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2 hours ago, Piney said:

I was raised with that belief. But I believe in a cyclical Universe which always existed and dies with a big collapse and is reborn with a big bang.

There's a physical law which covers everything. The Law of Increasing Functional Complexity which explained how molecules came together and created hydrogen and helium, then elements became more complexed by the processes of fusion in stars through their different generations. Then these elements combined and became minerals and life and as life grows more complex so do minerals. 

It's interesting that this natural law always leads up to life. So I'm pantheistic and think the Universe is living, but still learning. Then again. It's my opinion and probably wrong. 

Interesting my friend, and absolutely nothing wrong. 😊

However, what I was talking about is a little different. Pantheism implies that the universe and God are one and the same, that God is the universe experiencing Himself through it and through all of us, learning from this experience. But when I talked about my pet theory, I tried to avoid the subject of God, or higher consciousness or anything divine. People with different beliefs and backgrounds will tend to have different opinions of God, the universe and about creationism and such. In this case, I like to view consciousness as being purely the potential to exist. 

Let me illustrate my point by an example - let's say that 500 years from now I have a great great great great great grandchild. That person does not exist right now. However, even though the person doesn't exist, they still have the potential to exist in the future. Similarly, let's say 500 years ago, I had a great great great great great grandfather who has died and he does not exist right now. We can say that that person has returned back to his original state of being, or original state of consciousness, in this case - potential of existence. Let's say that an astronaut happens to fall into a black hole right now. Now, if he could observe us, according to physics, he should be able to see the past, the present and the future happening simultaneously from the event horizon (since he will experience time differently). So in essence, he will be able to observe my ancestor, myself and my descendant at the same time from his point of view. Interestingly, neither my ancestor nor my descendant exists in the material form in this present time. So all that the astronaut sees when he's looking into the timeline is just the potential of their existence. It's crazy, I know, but logically true! 😁

We cannot wrap our heads around Nothingness, we cannot define it, explain it or imagine it without turning it into Something, which is by definition the very opposite of Nothing. It can be all very mind boggling! When we ponder about what existed before the big bang, how everything came from nothing, that's why I like to think in terms of Potential. I like to think that before there was anything, there was this Consciousness or the Potential to exist. And even without bringing God into the picture, it's something magical, beautiful and divine. Potential is something that is also very difficult to refute in my opinion. But I will stop now, I hope that my point gets across even if a little bit. 😁

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1 hour ago, dlonewolf85 said:

Interesting my friend, and absolutely nothing wrong. 😊

However, what I was talking about is a little different. Pantheism implies that the universe and God are one and the same, that God is the universe experiencing Himself through it and through all of us, learning from this experience. But when I talked about my pet theory, I tried to avoid the subject of God, or higher consciousness or anything divine. People with different beliefs and backgrounds will tend to have different opinions of God, the universe and about creationism and such. In this case, I like to view consciousness as being purely the potential to exist. 

Let me illustrate my point by an example - let's say that 500 years from now I have a great great great great great grandchild. That person does not exist right now. However, even though the person doesn't exist, they still have the potential to exist in the future. Similarly, let's say 500 years ago, I had a great great great great great grandfather who has died and he does not exist right now. We can say that that person has returned back to his original state of being, or original state of consciousness, in this case - potential of existence. Let's say that an astronaut happens to fall into a black hole right now. Now, if he could observe us, according to physics, he should be able to see the past, the present and the future happening simultaneously from the event horizon (since he will experience time differently). So in essence, he will be able to observe my ancestor, myself and my descendant at the same time from his point of view. Interestingly, neither my ancestor nor my descendant exists in the material form in this present time. So all that the astronaut sees when he's looking into the timeline is just the potential of their existence. It's crazy, I know, but logically true! 😁

We cannot wrap our heads around Nothingness, we cannot define it, explain it or imagine it without turning it into Something, which is by definition the very opposite of Nothing. It can be all very mind boggling! When we ponder about what existed before the big bang, how everything came from nothing, that's why I like to think in terms of Potential. I like to think that before there was anything, there was this Consciousness or the Potential to exist. And even without bringing God into the picture, it's something magical, beautiful and divine. Potential is something that is also very difficult to refute in my opinion. But I will stop now, I hope that my point gets across even if a little bit. 😁

I don't view the Universe as personified. So I dislike the term "God". I also don't view humans as being anything special in the Universe. Just another lifeform that comes and goes. Especially since we somehow outlived our niche and no longer are part of a ecological cycle. 

But the Universe is magical even without religion and like I said, I believe in the cyclical Universe which always existed. Even if it becomes a infinitely dense singularity from time to time. 

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I think of the universe as Being…what IS being?    you!   ..and everything else?  Existence is motion?     I dunno, so I like pondering the nature of reality/existence…the UNI verse.  I always end up thinking NOT being / non- existence is impossible!   .. So  it  IS.   :yes:    

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If you stood at the very edge of the observable universe what would you see? Either the back of your own head, or more universe, so the observable universe depends on being observed. If you can’t see or measure it, it doesn’t exist. But when you look at it (observe it) it exists. It’s a bit Schrödinger I think. It doesn’t mean if you can’t observe it it doesn’t exist. But it only exists when you can observe it. 🙃 

I’m sure this is flawed, but it’s how I think of the universe. It’s in the eye of the observer. 

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Also believe in cyclical universe. Slight tangent but is a spectrum (eg light) linear or a closed loop - at some point do wavelengths reverse back to the beginning?

and the uncertainty principle of quantum theory (from what little I actually understand of it) seems to allow for the duality of existence and non existence to the observer. Hence the cat 🐈‍⬛ 

 

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On 3/12/2024 at 10:43 AM, Piney said:

... So I'm pantheistic and think the Universe is living, but still learning. ...

I love that. I started thinking that same way a few years ago. Growing and learning. A pantheistic toddler-verse LOL

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