Tory backlash after Brexit rules 'stopped Jeremy Hunt cutting red tape'

[pellinore]

Obviously it is great that the UK is obeying EU regulations, but it's not great that we now have no say in what they are. 

Rishi Sunak is facing a backlash after claims Brexit rules stopped the government cutting red tape for 'White Van Man'.

At the Budget on Wednesday Chancellor Jeremy Hunt nudged up the threshold for small businesses needing to register for VAT from £85,000 to £90,000.

Mr Hunt is reported to have told Tory MPs that a larger increase in the threshold could only happen in mainland Britain. 

Under the Windsor Framework agreed by Mr Sunak, the UK must ensure that Northern Ireland businesses do not have a significant tax advantage over the EU, where the VAT threshold is €100,000.

Tory backlash after Brexit rules 'stopped Jeremy Hunt cutting red tape for White Van Man in Budget' | Daily Mail Online

Edited March 8 by pellinore

[OpenMindedSceptic]

Yeah, the sort of rules Starmer wants to bring back in, along with the 350 regulations that we managed to eradicate so far.

Glad we are out.

[Duke Wellington]

1 hour ago, pellinore said:

Obviously it is great that the UK is obeying EU regulations, but it's not great that we now have no say in what they are. 

Rishi Sunak is facing a backlash after claims Brexit rules stopped the government cutting red tape for 'White Van Man'.

At the Budget on Wednesday Chancellor Jeremy Hunt nudged up the threshold for small businesses needing to register for VAT from £85,000 to £90,000.

Mr Hunt is reported to have told Tory MPs that a larger increase in the threshold could only happen in mainland Britain. 

Under the Windsor Framework agreed by Mr Sunak, the UK must ensure that Northern Ireland businesses do not have a significant tax advantage over the EU, where the VAT threshold is €100,000.

Tory backlash after Brexit rules 'stopped Jeremy Hunt cutting red tape for White Van Man in Budget' | Daily Mail Online

This is a manipulation.

Inflation has reduced the value of the £1 so all that is happening is the VAT threshold is being kept the same in real terms.

[Destination Unknown]

5 hours ago, pellinore said:

Obviously it is great that the UK is obeying EU regulations, but it's not great that we now have no say in what they are. 

Rishi Sunak is facing a backlash after claims Brexit rules stopped the government cutting red tape for 'White Van Man'.

At the Budget on Wednesday Chancellor Jeremy Hunt nudged up the threshold for small businesses needing to register for VAT from £85,000 to £90,000.

Mr Hunt is reported to have told Tory MPs that a larger increase in the threshold could only happen in mainland Britain. 

Under the Windsor Framework agreed by Mr Sunak, the UK must ensure that Northern Ireland businesses do not have a significant tax advantage over the EU, where the VAT threshold is €100,000.

Tory backlash after Brexit rules 'stopped Jeremy Hunt cutting red tape for White Van Man in Budget' | Daily Mail Online

So you're admitting that Brussels red tape disadvantages the self-employed working class, strangling small businesses, many of which never even did any trade with the EU anyway, but were still forced to comply with those draconian EU regulations that are deliberately designed to stifle their entrepreneurial spirit, but because of our democratically mandated exit from the European Union, those suffocating EU rules can now be scrapped in mainland Britain, but not N Ireland, which is still subject to pointless interfering EU bureaucracy. Right, got it.

Edited March 8 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

2 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

So you're admitting that Brussels red tape disadvantages the self-employed working class, strangling small businesses, many of which never even did any trade with the EU anyway, but were still forced to comply with those draconian EU regulations that are deliberately designed to stifle their entrepreneurial spirit, but because of our democratically mandated exit from the European Union, those suffocating EU rules can now be scrapped in mainland Britain, but not N Ireland, which is still subject to pointless interfering EU bureaucracy. Right, got it.

It is the small businesses that are now losing out because of Brexit red tape. Some have gone out of business or just given up trying to expand into Europe. Small businesses who never traded with Europe but served their local areas are also losing out as people have less money now to spend. There was no pointless interfering bureaucracy, there was no paperwork at all. A one-man business in Essex could deal with a shop in Germany, for e.g., with nothing more needed that paying shipping. It is Brexit which has introduced the bureaucracy, and changing VAT status by £10k won't make a jot of difference.

[Destination Unknown]

28 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It is the small businesses that are now losing out because of Brexit red tape. Some have gone out of business or just given up trying to expand into Europe. Small businesses who never traded with Europe but served their local areas are also losing out as people have less money now to spend. There was no pointless interfering bureaucracy, there was no paperwork at all. A one-man business in Essex could deal with a shop in Germany, for e.g., with nothing more needed that paying shipping. It is Brexit which has introduced the bureaucracy, and changing VAT status by £10k won't make a jot of difference.

Only about 10% of small UK businesses ever did any trade with the EU, but yet the other 90% that didn't do any trade with the EU whatsoever still had to comply with those same draconian EU rules, so it is the EU that introduced the bureaucracy, Brexit has scrapped it. 👇👇👇👇

https://fullfact.org/europe/how-many-businesses-export-eu/

[pellinore]

18 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Only about 10% of small UK businesses ever did any trade with the EU, but yet the other 90% that didn't do any trade with the EU whatsoever still had to comply with those same draconian EU rules, so it is the EU that introduced the bureaucracy, Brexit has scrapped it. 👇👇👇👇

https://fullfact.org/europe/how-many-businesses-export-eu/

Yes, that is the well-known mis-quoted statistic. 90% of all UK businesses never exported, so the UK is unaffected by international trade. But the 10% that do export, support the whole economy. And every large business that goes bust destroys all the small local business that support it and rely on it.

That's why Rishi introduced the Windsor Framework- if our relations with the EU soured, who would buy our stuff? No one. No other country is interested, not even Australia (not that it would benefit us anyway).

We need to re-establish more cordial relations with our own continent, it's on our doorstep and wants to trade with us.

Anyway, they are not draconian rules, they are standards. Every developed country has standards. Safety, food hygiene, working practises. And the UK now has to abide with the EU ones. Get used to it, it is sovereignty- we can choose to follow them and trade, or not follow them and not do international trade. We just have to accept we are now rule-takers not rule-makers. It's not hard, it is what we voted for in 2016.

 

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6 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Yes, that is the well-known mis-quoted statistic. 90% of all UK businesses never exported, so the UK is unaffected by international trade. But the 10% that do export, support the whole economy. And every large business that goes bust destroys all the small local business that support it and rely on it.

That's why Rishi introduced the Windsor Framework- if our relations with the EU soured, who would buy our stuff? No one. No other country is interested, not even Australia (not that it would benefit us anyway).

We need to re-establish more cordial relations with our own continent, it's on our doorstep and wants to trade with us.

Anyway, they are not draconian rules, they are standards. Every developed country has standards. Safety, food hygiene, working practises. And the UK now has to abide with the EU ones. Get used to it, it is sovereignty- we can choose to follow them and trade, or not follow them and not do international trade. We just have to accept we are now rule-takers not rule-makers. It's not hard, it is what we voted for in 2016.

 

But the other 90% that didn't export to the EU were forced to comply with the draconian laws and regulations that are deliberately imposed to make them less competitive in the world market outside of the EU. 🤦

https://fullfact.org/europe/how-many-businesses-export-eu/

[pellinore]

4 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

But the other 90% that didn't export to the EU were forced to comply with the draconian laws and regulations that are deliberately imposed to make them less competitive in the world market outside of the EU. 🤦

They now have no more access to the world outside Europe than they had before. The few pitiful trade deals the UK has struck have been detrimental. Just look at the music industry, fishing, farming.  Look, we won't be able to have a consructive discussion until the GE is over- maybe then people can be more honest. In the meantime, find something to post that shows Brexit has brought a benefit we were denied while we were in the single market- it will be interesting to discuss.

[Destination Unknown]

19 minutes ago, pellinore said:

They now have no more access to the world outside Europe than they had before. The few pitiful trade deals the UK has struck have been detrimental. Just look at the music industry, fishing, farming.  Look, we won't be able to have a consructive discussion until the GE is over- maybe then people can be more honest. In the meantime, find something to post that shows Brexit has brought a benefit we were denied while we were in the single market- it will be interesting to discuss.

 

39 minutes ago, pellinore said:

if our relations with the EU soured, who would buy our stuff? No one. No other country is interested, not even Australia (not that it would benefit us anyway).

What on earth are you talking about. Do you really believe the UK (your own country) is so backwards that nobody but the EU would ever be good enough for us? I mean, really.

You obviously must have missed this report from September 2023 in the publication 'The Manufacturer', which reveals that the UK's manufacturing sector has climbed from ninth place to eighth place on the entire planet, overtaking EU vassal France in the process. Official data also shows that the United States remains the dominant export market for UK manufactured goods (including food & beverage).

Yes, that's right, the United States, a country that neither the UK (or the EU), even has a trade deal with, so how on earth does that happen I wonder? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.themanufacturer.com/articles/uk-manufacturing-sector-climbs-to-eighth-in-world-rankings-make-uk-analysis/

Edited March 8 by Destination Unknown

[pellinore]

17 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

 

What on earth are you talking about. Do you really believe the UK (your own country) is so backwards that nobody but the EU would ever be good enough for us? I mean, really.

You obviously must have missed this report from September 2023 in the publication 'The Manufacturer', which reveals that the UK's manufacturing sector has climbed from ninth place to eighth place on the entire planet, overtaking EU vassal France in the process. Official data also shows that the United States remains the dominant export market for UK manufactured goods (including food & beverage).

Yes, that's right, the United States, a country that neither the UK (or the EU), even has a trade deal with, so how on earth does that happen I wonder? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.themanufacturer.com/articles/uk-manufacturing-sector-climbs-to-eighth-in-world-rankings-make-uk-analysis/

Henick Research (owners of The Manufacturer) wants to sell the UK to the US. Make of that what you will.

[Destination Unknown]

4 minutes ago, pellinore said:

Henick Research (owners of The Manufacturer) wants to sell the UK to the US. Make of that what you will.

Oh for crying out loud pellinore, you really are pathetic. So just because it doesn't suit your narrative, it obviously means it must come from some dodgy outfit that doesn't have the UK's best interests at heart. Give your head a wobble pellinore, your 'Brexit Derangement Syndrome' (BDS) has obviously clouded your ability to think critically.

Edited March 8 by Destination Unknown