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Government files detail investigation of paranormal activity in Utah


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Interesting subject, but that was the thinnest article I've seen in a while on here.

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49 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Interesting subject, but that was the thinnest article I've seen in a while on here.

There's a video report linked at the bottom of the article.

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21 minutes ago, Saru said:

There's a video report linked at the bottom of the article.

My fault I missed that.

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Another paranormal nothing burger. Spooky music was nice though.

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Utah? Sounds like they are talking about Skinwalker Ranch. I've seen enough to believe unexplained stuff goes on there.

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Spook-tacular.

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Check - all the armchair debunkers ride in to throw cold water on essentially every single story that is posted here. Begging the question as to why they are here in the first place.
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51 minutes ago, Unadan said:

Check - all the armchair debunkers ride in to throw cold water on essentially every single story that is posted here. Begging the question as to why they are here in the first place.

Because we can be. 

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Lol.

1 hour ago, Unadan said:

Check - all the armchair debunkers ride in to throw cold water on essentially every single story that is posted here. Begging the question as to why they are here in the first place.

If you hit the archives, and go to the earliest posts, you'll see the same bunch doing the same thing. I think it may be some superiority kink. Like vultures circling, except the reward is confirmation bias among them. You'll find the same bunch in the E.T tab going back to the the beginning also. One even claimed they'd been doing this for twenty years. That was before he joined UM. So at least 30 years. Is that dedication, or signs of OCD?

 

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1 hour ago, Unadan said:

Check - all the armchair debunkers ride in to throw cold water on essentially every single story that is posted here. Begging the question as to why they are here in the first place.

why don't you throw some hot water on it? say something interesting regarding this thread & make my water hot- i've read & watched the video in this thread.  we could have an adult debate about it, if you're up for it...what ya got?

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41 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Lol.

If you hit the archives, and go to the earliest posts, you'll see the same bunch doing the same thing. I think it may be some superiority kink. Like vultures circling, except the reward is confirmation bias among them. You'll find the same bunch in the E.T tab going back to the the beginning also. One even claimed they'd been doing this for twenty years. That was before he joined UM. So at least 30 years. Is that dedication, or signs of OCD?

 

Do you want an echo chamber? Sounds like it. Facebook is the place for you then. What do you call a group of hard core believers saying the same things over and over again ad infinitum? Are they vultures as well?

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48 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Lol.

If you hit the archives, and go to the earliest posts, you'll see the same bunch doing the same thing. I think it may be some superiority kink. Like vultures circling, except the reward is confirmation bias among them. You'll find the same bunch in the E.T tab going back to the the beginning also. One even claimed they'd been doing this for twenty years. That was before he joined UM. So at least 30 years. Is that dedication, or signs of OCD?

 

I understand what this thread is saying,... i have my opinions on it. give us something you feel backs it up as being legit/ possible & i'll have an adult debate about it with you as well :tsu:

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6 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

Do you want an echo chamber? Sounds like it. Facebook is the place for you then. What do you call a group of hard core believers saying the same things over and over again ad infinitum? Are they vultures as well?

I don't do Facebook, nor twittX. Never have, never will.

Also, two sides of the same coin. Except one side is openly hostile to the other. To the point of driving new members away. It's been this way from the beginning.

10 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

What do you call a group of hard core believers saying the same things over and over again ad infinitum?

I call them skeptics. Walked into that one, didn't you?🫠

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11 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

I understand what this thread is saying,... i have my opinions on it. give us something you feel backs it up as being legit/ possible & i'll have an adult debate about it with you as well :tsu:

Nope, not with you. Your posting history, on the ET threads belies your words. My mother didn't raise a sado masochist. 

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1 minute ago, Hankenhunter said:

Nope, not with you. Your posting history, on the ET threads belies your words. My mother didn't raise a sado masochist. 

try!!! say something interesting with regards to this thread rather than just bashing skeptics & you'll see a different me :tu:

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28 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

I don't do Facebook, nor twittX. Never have, never will.

Also, two sides of the same coin. Except one side is openly hostile to the other. To the point of driving new members away. It's been this way from the beginning.

I call them skeptics. Walked into that one, didn't you?🫠

Not sure where you are looking but I simply do not see what you describe. Most of the people that have been on here for a long time simply want the same thing, real evidence.

Seems someone's threshold for 'hostile' is pretty low. The only hostility I have seen is after years and years of certain posters spamming the same thing over and over again (and I do mean OVER AND OVER AGAIN) people finally got a bit fed up with it. It is a forum after all and it is supposed to be a discussion backed with actual evidence with the rules that go along with debating.

Sorry, the world is full of people making claims about all sorts of things. Some folks want evidence to back those claims. A lot of people apparently have a very loose definition of evidence and get a bit upset when challenged.

For those folks there are other forums with low standards that will accept anything as evidence and everyone can sing kumbaya while patting each other on the back.

 

PS - you can block posters that you find offensive. I know I have used it a few times.

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no one has actually discussed this topic yet,-- so far it's just skeptic bashing & skeptics defending the skeptical approach

56 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Except one side is openly hostile to the other. To the point of driving new members away.

This suggests to me you feel only believers get put off from becoming a member....... oh well, you know best 🤷‍♂️

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53 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

Not sure where you are looking but I simply do not see what you describe.

Go back to the very beginning in the archives,  and start there. Et, and paranormal tabs. Start your search with most replied to.The same people are still here doing now, what they did then, drive new members away by trying to humiliate, goad, and bully. The amount of people who've been driven off over the years is discouraging to say the least. 

 

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Hankenhunter is correct. 

Hostile non-believers on a UM website.

Really not sure why they come here. 

It's been so bad on occasion that I wonder if they are paid to be that way.

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So… Just to be clear, Bad skeptics raise questions on a discussion forum, are hostile because they challenge beliefs.

Yet here we are, not a SINGLE skeptical comment made, and the ‘believers’ are already getting the hostility flying!

Yall need to take a long hard look in the mirror.  If you don’t want to discuss, don’t post in a discussion forum.

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7 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

People want echo chambers instead of thinking. 

No, they want to be treated with civility. 

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Just now, Hankenhunter said:

No, they want to be treated with civility. 

And that civility begins by bashing skeptics before anyone has even made a skeptical comment?

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8 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

No, they want to be treated with civility. 

A two-way street. 

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