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Trump says there will be a 'bloodbath' if he loses the election


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9 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Trump is inappropriate, however it’s the dam MAGANITES who follow the Chosen One they are responsible for the current environment in America.:yes:

They're your neighbors.  They make up roughly half of the voters in the coming election.  They are AMERICANS.  What, exactly, do you think should be done about them?

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Us Brits are interested in your POTUS election , and so is the whole world , but Trump is not a good candidate , so why is he being allowed to run ,or is this his B.S. ,  Surely you Americans can see that he is a maniac with an ego taller than the Empire State icon, and Biden doesn't like us because we aren't Irish . So we hope that common sense prevails , because we have been friends for  a long time .

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Just now, spud the mackem said:

So we hope that common sense prevails , because we have been friends for  a long time

The Anglo-American friendship will only be broken if Britain turns away because we don't elect a president you agree with.  Remember, each nation has the right to choose its leaders without regard to what the rest of the world thinks.  That works BOTH ways, Spud.  When was the last time Americans got involved in British politics to the point of demanding that you choose someone we wanted, rather than one you chose?  I can't recall it ever happening.  75 million individual Americans voted for Trump in 2020.  Do you really believe that many people are mentally sub-normal cultists?  

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10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Trump is inappropriate, however it’s the dam MAGANITES who follow the Chosen One they are responsible for the current environment in America.:yes:

Still boggles me that anyone would think a con man is the chosen one. Or that anyone is the chosen one for that matter. I mean is there really such thing as a chosen one? Who do they think chose him to be the chosen one? Or how they cannot listen to a guy like this and see through it. Or why the Dems didn't find someone younger and more aggressive to run , as they would probably wipe their butt cheeks with someone like Trump.

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10 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

What does January 6 have to do with calling this an economic bloodbath? Or justify how the context of the quote meant a physical bloodbath to stop the cars being sold? Something, other than "it might happen, well you know, the thing...".

I don’t think Trump calling for a bloodbath for any reason is appropriate, especially after January 6th. 

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6 hours ago, WVK said:

Russia collusion hoaxster former CIA chief John Brennan works for NBC. NBC=propaganda 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/06/john-brennan-james-claper-michael-hayden-former-cia-media-216943/

Any chance of a bloodbath if Trump is elected?

Yes! 

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I notice he said ‘bloodbath if I lose the election’ .. and not ‘bloodbath if the election is stolen’.     Which is the same as saying…there will be a bloodbath if I am not elected….  Either way!!! No matter what!   He is calling for extreme violence if he is not elected.  Period.   What part of BLOODBATH is difficult to understand?     (it’s not a commonly used economic descriptor)  BLOOD BATH.     .

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6 minutes ago, lightly said:

 What part of BLOODBATH is difficult to understand?     (it’s not a commonly used economic descriptor)  BLOOD BATH.     .

Bloodbath is a literal definition in the dictionary. 

-a major economic disaster

a market bloodbath  
 
 
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16 minutes ago, acidhead said:

Bloodbath is a literal definition in the dictionary. 

-a major economic disaster

a market bloodbath  
 
 

I’m aware of that, which is why I said…it is not a ..commonly used economic descriptor..   your link to Merriam-Webster Webster puts it in proper perspective.    

bloodbath

noun

blood·bath ˈbləd-ˌbath How to pronounce bloodbath (audio) 
-ˌbäth
 
1
: a great slaughter
 
2
a
: a notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
the campaign has become a bloodbath
 
b
: a major economic disaster
a market bloodbath
 
      He is calling for violence if he is not elected…legitimately, or otherwise,  for whatever reason!  He is telling them to give him all power and rights of a king or dictator.  Haven’t you noticed him ranting about REPLACING legitimately seated members of our government with people LOYAL to him.  He (says) he believes that a president must have IMMUNITY .. “to do HIS job”. He says a president must have LOYALTY .. FROM “HIS Generals & HIS Military!    We all have heard him say these things .        Would you prefer a KING south of your border..eyeballing your Resource$$$$$. and Commanding HIS Generals & His Military to Take Canada? :P

 

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41 minutes ago, Razman said:

Still boggles me that anyone would think a con man is the chosen one. Or that anyone is the chosen one for that matter. I mean is there really such thing as a chosen one?

Trump called himself the Chosen One, and no I don't believe that there is such a thing as the Chosen One. 

41 minutes ago, Razman said:

Who do they think chose him to be the chosen one? Or how they cannot listen to a guy like this and see through it. Or why the Dems didn't find someone younger and more aggressive to run , as they would probably wipe their butt cheeks with someone like Trump.

Trumps use of the term Chosen One is that he was chosen by God to lead America into the light. The Extreme Religious right who is pushing the belief that Trump was chosen but, in my opinion, he is nothing but a false prophet. I believe they have stopped thinking for themselves and have just put their faith in his hands. I just hope they wake up because while they are disappointed with our government, long term it will only get worst with Trump as the POTUS.

Peace

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14 minutes ago, acidhead said:

Bloodbath is a literal definition in the dictionary. 

-a major economic disaster

a market bloodbath  
 
 

Yes, it is but your definition is not an honest attempt at defining it. Because you didn't include the entire definition!:no:

1a great slaughter
2aa notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
2b: a major economic disaster
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6 hours ago, WVK said:

So we can look forward to riots regardless of outcome?

I'm expecting an extremist from either end of the spectrum to take a shot at the President-elect, whoever wins.

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Bloodbath comment aside, I would like to talk about the car manufacturing industry crash he is complaining about.  Trump claims that China is building massive factories in Mexico to build and sell cars tax free here in the US and that it will destroy the auto industry.  He seems to be forgetting that it was him that renegotiated NAFTA into NAFTA 2.0 and set up this whole situation to begin with.  He's basically saying we have to elect him to solve a problem that his shortsightedness caused.

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2 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said:

I don’t think Trump calling for a bloodbath for any reason is appropriate, especially after January 6th. 

So do you agree that the context of Trump's quote in this instance is an economic bloodbath? Whether it was "appropriate" is a different question, is this the nuts and bolts of what Trump said? 

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2 hours ago, and-then said:

The Anglo-American friendship will only be broken if Britain turns away because we don't elect a president you agree with.  Remember, each nation has the right to choose its leaders without regard to what the rest of the world thinks.  That works BOTH ways, Spud.  When was the last time Americans got involved in British politics to the point of demanding that you choose someone we wanted, rather than one you chose?  I can't recall it ever happening.  75 million individual Americans voted for Trump in 2020.  Do you really believe that many people are mentally sub-normal cultists?  

OK, but why did you take Harold Holt and what did you do with him?

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54 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Bloodbath comment aside, I would like to talk about the car manufacturing industry crash he is complaining about.  Trump claims that China is building massive factories in Mexico to build and sell cars tax free here in the US and that it will destroy the auto industry.  He seems to be forgetting that it was him that renegotiated NAFTA into NAFTA 2.0 and set up this whole situation to begin with.  He's basically saying we have to elect him to solve a problem that his shortsightedness caused.

He might've sounded reasonable if he spoke about dumping duties.

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1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes, it is but your definition is not an honest attempt at defining it. Because you didn't include the entire definition!:no:

1a great slaughter
2aa notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
2b: a major economic disaster

Post #50 I posted the entire definition with a screenshot. Words can have multiple meanings. 

But, to be entirely honest,  this is a bloodbath --->

74e22b641103f3b6c96a96c9dc7d0729.thumb.jpg.accfa89aac1a66c96ac4209c6c418cf0.jpg

 

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1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes, it is but your definition is not an honest attempt at defining it. Because you didn't include the entire definition!:no:

1a great slaughter
2aa notably fierce, violent, or destructive contest or struggle
2b: a major economic disaster

Given the context of Trump's words revolving around the sale of cars, do you think the most appropriate use of "bloodbath" in this context is that of an economic problem, or a physical problem? 

“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said.

“Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”

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1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

Bloodbath comment aside, I would like to talk about the car manufacturing industry crash he is complaining about.  Trump claims that China is building massive factories in Mexico to build and sell cars tax free here in the US and that it will destroy the auto industry.  He seems to be forgetting that it was him that renegotiated NAFTA into NAFTA 2.0 and set up this whole situation to begin with.  He's basically saying we have to elect him to solve a problem that his shortsightedness caused.

How Mexico Could Help China ‘Demolish’ The U.S. Car Industry

The slowdown of EV sales in the United States is a problem created by automakers who were unwilling to see the looming threat of China and are now unable to build a competitive and affordable EV product. This was only exacerbated by a government slow to adjust to the looming new world order.

https://www.theautopian.com/how-mexico-could-help-china-demolish-the-u-s-car-industry/

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3 minutes ago, WVK said:

How Mexico Could Help China ‘Demolish’ The U.S. Car Industry

The slowdown of EV sales in the United States is a problem created by automakers who were unwilling to see the looming threat of China and are now unable to build a competitive and affordable EV product. This was only exacerbated by a government slow to adjust to the looming new world order.

https://www.theautopian.com/how-mexico-could-help-china-demolish-the-u-s-car-industry/

Ah, thanks for the link spelling it out for people.  

The data strongly suggests that Chinese inputs are beginning to circumvent U.S. tariffs by entering through the southern border. “The leakage problem undercuts U.S. and North American workers by pitting them in competition against non-USMCA producers without commitment to the same worker, environmental, and consumer safety standards and without extending reciprocal market access to similar U.S.-based producers,” wrote the Economic Policy Institute’s Adam Hersh.- from your link.

USMCA is the name of the NAFTA 2.0 deal that Trump made.

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23 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

Given the context of Trump's words revolving around the sale of cars, do you think the most appropriate use of "bloodbath" in this context is that of an economic problem, or a physical problem? 

“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said.

“Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”

When it comes to Trump Speak, it's very difficult to say. Most Americans do not equate the word Bloodbath to an economic disaster. It's like calling the January 6 insurrectionists hostages, it's the same subliminal message. In the end it's not what Trump means when he adds his buzz words, it's how his MAGA Base chooses to interpret them and to date good their judgement has not been the watch word!!!!:yes:

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7 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

Given the context of Trump's words revolving around the sale of cars, do you think the most appropriate use of "bloodbath" in this context is that of an economic problem, or a physical problem? 

“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said.

“Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”

He is saying an uncompetitive industry will die unless he protects it with extreme measure.

He's against subsidised health care because that's socialist.  While doling out subsidies to agriculture.

His roadmap to Utopia is nationalistic government interventions.  Are we just going to ignore that he says he is BFF with Xi?

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I guess I am  the only one in this entire thread who thinks that the election has already been decided

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

When it comes to Trump Speak, it's very difficult to say. Most Americans do not equate the word Bloodbath to an economic disaster. It's like calling the January 6 insurrectionists hostages, it's the same subliminal message. In the end it's not what Trump means when he adds his buzz words, it's how his MAGA Base chooses to interpret them and to date good judgement has not been the watch word!!!!:yes:

So, is it MAGA Base vs WOKE Base?  

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