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Canada is becoming a third world country


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14 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

This is very true, however for me Canada represents the place I live aka GTA , and the place my vehicle got stolen. When Police came in my house while I was filling a report, had the nerve to laugh on my face and tell me that by now is probably in a container, sealed. They didn't even bothered looking at cameras. Alberta, NFL and to some respect Montreal are much better places to be in, right now. 

So you got your knickers in a knot because some cop had the nerve to laugh and brief you on the possible reality of your car's situation. Is that what your beef is about?

Police have neither the time or resources to conduct in-depth, time consuming investigations of individual auto thefts (unless a person was injured or killed in the process). But by having the details you provided them with, they can cross-reference that information when stolen vehicles are recovered or used in the commission of another crime, etc. Police in other large cities across the country would do the same.

28 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

You're over reacting and exharcerbating the subject. Since facing a backlash of fury across Ontario and the world, even European news agencies having made this thing public, Police is apparently now backing up ... 

https://www.narcity.com/toronto/toronto-police-backing-off-weird-advice-to-leave-car-keys-at-door 

furthermore today so many other Canadians like me, are finding this frustrating, this is shared now in news and media . https://www.news18.com/world/toronto-police-8816075.html 

I won't be surprised to hear the cop will be disciplined. 

I would argue that it is you who is over reacting, and that over reaction is being fuelled by your personal experience as well as the faux outrage levelled at a single police officer who was merely trying to offer what he thought was helpful advice.

32 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

"The one who hates Kittens" is apparently in USA and has only live a shorter amount of time in Canada. He or she remembers Canada is it was in its glory days. Montreal has much better control of its crimes since thanks to the language policing and ultranationalistic regulations, they tend to control immigration better. Francois LeGault tactics and politics have just recently been highlighted as negative by Trudeau again. Consider QC as the Texas of Canada in terms of border controls and strange laws. 

I'm not in the US, I'm in Canada. I'm not old enough to remember Canada's so called 'glory days' but have lived in Toronto long enough to know that it is nowhere near what you claim it to be. And once again you are (without evidence) pointing to immigrants as the source of criminal activity. No wonder you extol the virtues of ultra-nationalistic polices and the likes of François Legault.

Toronto, in spite of recent increases in certain crimes, still remains the safest large city in all of North America. Just because your car was stolen does not change that fact.

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8 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

There are only a few states in the U.S. that you can do that.  Do you like the desert?   You might like Arizona, it is the only state I know of where you can open carry your weapons without anyone questioning you.

Don't encourage him. He might accidentally shoot himself (or get shot back at) and then won't have free health care to cover the cost his injuries.

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1 minute ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Don't encourage him. He might accidentally shoot himself (or get shot back at) and then won't have free health care to cover the cost his injuries.

Yeah, that is one thing anyone in Canada complaining, doesn't understand about the U.S.    There is no free health care, even if you quailify for Medicaid you have to be very poor and very old to get free healthcare (my aunt still has to pay a copay to see a specialist and she is very old and very poor).   The rest of us are REQUIRED to pay for private insurance even if we are over 65 and have paid into Medicare for ever.

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29 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

There are only a few states in the U.S. that you can do that.  Do you like the desert?   You might like Arizona, it is the only state I know of where you can open carry your weapons without anyone questioning you.   I think you just like to complain.  Or did someone take your car?   Is that what this is all about?   

I don't want to carry a weapon but if the organization who suppose to protect me, wants me to leave the keys outside the house to mitigate a potential event, we have a big problem. Furthermore if criminals carry weapons and they're roaming free, what else we suppose to do? 

I started carrying about the quality of life I build for my children. Liberals don't give a **** because they don't make children.  ( loved this quote from Chuck Holton, I wish we have someone like him in Canada)

Yes my vehicle has been stolen. I am still lucky to have been stolen just once. There are people in Ontario whose cars were stolen 3 times. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-woman-car-stolen-auto-theft-summit-1.7110015 read this story to also understanding that my frustration against authorities not doing more, is commonly shared. 

You people from USA or other countries cannot exactly understand how humiliated we feel cause of it. Canadians are peaceful trustworthy people and we lived in La La Land for a while. This state is now being abused by large by groups of minorities who came here using gaps and loopholes. Alberta is now starting their own police cause of it. 

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1 hour ago, qxcontinuum said:

I don't want to carry a weapon but if the organization who suppose to protect me, wants me to leave the keys outside the house to mitigate a potential event, we have a big problem. Furthermore if criminals carry weapons and they're roaming free, what else we suppose to do? 

I started carrying about the quality of life I build for my children. Liberals don't give a **** because they don't make children.  ( loved this quote from Chuck Holton, I wish we have someone like him in Canada)

Yes my vehicle has been stolen. I am still lucky to have been stolen just once. There are people in Ontario whose cars were stolen 3 times. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-woman-car-stolen-auto-theft-summit-1.7110015 read this story to also understanding that my frustration against authorities not doing more, is commonly shared. 

You people from USA or other countries cannot exactly understand how humiliated we feel cause of it. Canadians are peaceful trustworthy people and we lived in La La Land for a while. This state is now being abused by large by groups of minorities who came here using gaps and loopholes. Alberta is now starting their own police cause of it. 

Are you pretending like no one in any other country gets their vehicle stolen?   Or that criminals in other countries don't have guns?   You are emotional and not thinking clearly.  So the world is against you and you blame your politicians.  What you describe about "the Liberals" is true for "the conservative" politicians as well.   Maybe you would feel better if you made a different list, instead of what you are angry about, what are you grateful for?   See what the balance in that and if there are not very many things you have on your grateful list to counter balance the angry list, I suggest you ask one of your kids to help you with your grateful list.  

Everyone goes over the edge sometimes, but the trick is to climb back up from it and keep moving.

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6 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Are you pretending like no one in any other country gets their vehicle stolen?   Or that criminals in other countries don't have guns?   You are emotional and not thinking clearly.  So the world is against you and you blame your politicians.  What you describe about "the Liberals" is true for "the conservative" politicians as well.   Maybe you would feel better if you made a different list, instead of what you are angry about, what are you grateful for?   See what the balance in that and if there are not very many things you have on your grateful list to counter balance the angry list, I suggest you ask one of your kids to help you with your grateful list.  

Everyone goes over the edge sometimes, but the trick is to climb back up from it and keep moving.

How about those people whose cars were stolen 3 times including the rental... although I am not in their place I could use my empathy to think through their perspective . How will they move on and to what? Not buying a car, not renting one? Like this women:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-woman-car-stolen-auto-theft-summit-1.7110015 

The problem with liberals and their inefficiency is not just commonly shared across 65% of Canadians ready to vote conservatives according to the latest polls, but also shared by law enforcement who are demanding the federal government to eliminate gaps from the justice system, to put back older laws for theft and petty crimes , to put a cap on immigration and to chase down the criminal gangs. 

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3 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

How about those people whose cars were stolen 3 times including the rental... although I am not in their place I could use my empathy to think through their perspective . How will they move on and to what? Not buying a car, not renting one? Like this women:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-woman-car-stolen-auto-theft-summit-1.7110015 

The problem with liberals and their inefficiency is not just commonly shared across 65% of Canadians ready to vote conservatives according to the latest polls, but also shared by law enforcement who are demanding the federal government to eliminate gaps from the justice system, to put back older laws for theft and petty crimes , to put a cap on immigration and to chase down the criminal gangs. 

Empathy is one thing, but you are using their examples to justify your personal anger.    And claiming onlyl one side of the political spectrum is to blame is ridiculous.    

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19 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Oh really? It's news to me. Last time I checked my financial freedom was still intact, as were my rights to property.

Because you were not one of your fellow citizens who had their assets illegally frozen by Trudeau, as determined by your own courts.  

@qxcontinuum Don't forget the ongoing efforts to stifle free speech rights. :tu:

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5 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

The key word in Section 35(1) is reasonable.

Every Canadian has the right to safeguard themselves and their property as long as their defensive actions are reasonable and proportional to the circumstances. Lethal force (such as a shotgun) is only justified when it is the only available option for self-defence against a threat of severe bodily harm or loss of life and when no safe avenue of escape is available.

As for the police, what they are reminding us of, are precautionary and preventative measures. Why anyone would take issue with this is beyond me.

In my book, since people can in fact be killed with one punch it's reasonable to use deadly force defending yourself.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393

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2 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

When Police came in my house while I was filling a report, had the nerve to laugh on my face and tell me that by now is probably in a container, sealed.

I see why you are so frustrated.

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38 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Because you were not one of your fellow citizens who had their assets illegally frozen by Trudeau, as determined by your own courts.  

@qxcontinuum Don't forget the ongoing efforts to stifle free speech rights. :tu:

Very true , this may be soon taken away if we don't defend it and so would by my rights to express disappointment and rejection over statements made by officials, like It was in Eastern countries 30 years ago!

39 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Empathy is one thing, but you are using their examples to justify your personal anger.    And claiming onlyl one side of the political spectrum is to blame is ridiculous.    

This is the perfect example of why such efforts are required. Often, alarm bells can be viewed as "hate speech" (although no such claim has been made) or "personal anger" and as such these voices need to be shut down for the common good of other people   politicians. 

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16 hours ago, A rather obscure Bassoon said:

Apparently the OPP have told the residents of Toronto to leave their car keys in a bag at their front door.

Maybe they should leave a glass of milk and plate of cookies as well.

Thats why I keep a baseball bat at the side of my door.

A good ole Louisville Slugger works just fine.

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16 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said:

Very true , this may be soon taken away if we don't defend it and so would by my rights to express disappointment and rejection over statements made by officials, like It was in Eastern countries 30 years ago!

This is the perfect example of why such efforts are required. Often, alarm bells can be viewed as "hate speech" (although no such claim has been made) or "personal anger" and as such these voices need to be shut down for the common good of other people   politicians. 

People in Canada need to pay attention to those who have actually lived and fled from places where free speech was stifled.

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4 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

There are only a few states in the U.S. that you can do that.  Do you like the desert?   You might like Arizona, it is the only state I know of where you can open carry your weapons without anyone questioning you.   I think you just like to complain.  Or did someone take your car?   Is that what this is all about?   

Actually many states in recent years have gotten rid of concealed carry permits,and several states actually allow open carry...

I've personally never liked the idea of open carry myself.

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1 hour ago, OverSword said:

People in Canada need to pay attention to those who have actually lived and fled from places where free speech was stifled.

Hell Americans have a problem doing so as well.

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3 hours ago, OverSword said:

Because you were not one of your fellow citizens who had their assets illegally frozen by Trudeau, as determined by your own courts.  

That's because my bank accounts do not contain funds from foreign agitators and others for the purpose of supporting and sustaining an illegal blockade. The government is appealing that decision by the way.

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2 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

That's because my bank accounts do not contain funds from foreign agitators and others for the purpose of supporting and sustaining an illegal blockade. The government is appealing that decision by the way.

Your own courts determined the freezing of assets was illegal Kittens

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1 minute ago, OverSword said:

Your own courts determined the freezing of assets was illegal Kittens

What the federal court determined was that invoking the Emergencies Act was unreasonable and infringed on protesters' Charter rights. Even though the judge ultimately determined that the economic orders infringed on those rights, he agreed with the government's rationale in freezing those funds. But like I mentioned, the federal government is appealing that decision, so we'll just have to wait and see what the final outcome is.

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4 hours ago, OverSword said:

In my book, since people can in fact be killed with one punch it's reasonable to use deadly force defending yourself.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393

Yeah try that argument in a court of law, I dare you.

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6 minutes ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Yeah try that argument in a court of law, I dare you.

No problem, if I'm here where you are allowed to defend yourself without having to guess how far the other guy may or may not go. 130 people were beaten to death in Canada last year. Would you like to be number 131?

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2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

No problem, if I'm here where you are allowed to defend yourself without having to guess how far the other guy may or may not go. 130 people were beaten to death in Canada last year. Would you like to be number 131?

Have you seen some of these videos of white kids getting beaten to death by groups of blacks at school recently?

Not hard to be brutally beaten,a 16 year old girl got her head smashed in just last week right off school grounds.

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6 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Have you seen some of these videos of white kids getting beaten to death by groups of blacks at school recently?

Not hard to be brutally beaten,a 16 year old girl got her head smashed in just last week right off school grounds.

Well I don't think that race has anything to do with the fact that it's pretty easy to kill someone by punching them in the head a few times or even once, but yes.

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3 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Well I don't think that race has anything to do with the fact that it's pretty easy to kill someone by punching them in the head a few times or even once, but yes.

True,but a good example as any recently to show just how dangerous the human body can be if ones motivated.

I know why no one has started a thread on any of those recent events,chaos would erupt and thread closed in short order.

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21 minutes ago, OverSword said:

No problem, if I'm here where you are allowed to defend yourself without having to guess how far the other guy may or may not go. 130 people were beaten to death in Canada last year. Would you like to be number 131?

Those stats are meaningless without context. Furthermore, using reasonable force does not mean you can't go to extremes if you had no means of escape and your life was in danger. You're making too much out of this. As for me becoming number 131, keep dreaming.

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6 hours ago, OverSword said:

Your own courts determined the freezing of assets was illegal Kittens

And so it was invoking the emergency act according to another recent rulling which found to have been just another unconstitutional use of force the federal government has taken to stop people from exercising their democratic rights to protest. This was extremely damaging for the future of Canada and its democracy as it seeded fear and inhibitions for any other groups or minorities who wishes to protest in the future.

Meanwhile in other democratic countries fron Europe, farmers are putting **** at their parliament doors literaly to protest against tax increase and no one dares to invoke the emergency act.

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