What Atheists Believe Happens When Life Comes to an End

[Antigonos]

58 minutes ago, Piney said:

We are reincarnated dinosaurs?

Then I’m a T Rex! Rahhrrr!!!

[Abramelin]

On 3/24/2024 at 9:11 PM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Atheists do not believe in God, gods, or any form of a religious afterlife. Instead, atheists often believe that this life is the only one you get. They deny what religious scripture, such as the Christian Bible or the Islamic Qur’an, says. However, as life does come to an end, many atheists have various views on what happens when they die. Because everybody is different, the idea of what occurs when life comes to an end can vary from one atheist to another. 

As many atheists believe that their death will result in eternal oblivion or nothingness, some feel death is a calm and peaceful experience. This is because eternal oblivion will result in the complete end of one’s consciousness — and one’s pain. Through death and eventual nothingness, they believe they will no longer experience pain. Though they do not necessarily desire death, it nonetheless frees them from human suffering.

Scientists say that energy cannot be created — or destroyed. Therefore, when one dies, a body’s energy must go somewhere else. Scientists say this energy is redistributed into other forms upon one’s death.  Some atheists believe their death brings about this transformation. Though they don’t believe in any afterlife, they believe their death simply transforms their energy into something else in the universe.

What Atheists Believe Happens When Life Comes to an End (msn.com)

  

Lights out, game over.

[Antigonos]

12 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

Lights out, game over.

Yep. That’s how I see it too.

[Abramelin]

6 hours ago, Antigonos said:

Yep. That’s how I see it too.

That's most probably what atheists will say...or believe.

But no one knows, not really.

[+DieChecker]

I believe everyone thinks they're right.

Otherwise... Why would they be believing it??

[aquatus1]

I'm pretty sure I'm going back to where I was before I was born.

[Abramelin]

19 hours ago, aquatus1 said:

I'm pretty sure I'm going back to where I was before I was born.

Your mother would probably have some objections.

[jmccr8]

On 3/29/2024 at 1:49 AM, DieChecker said:

I believe everyone thinks they're right.

Otherwise... Why would they be believing it??

Hi Die

Can't really say I believe anything about death other than it happens to all of us. I know I have this life and live it like that is all there is as there is no evidence that anything happens after this life. I don't let speculation about death rule over being alive and living this life.

[aquatus1]

11 hours ago, Abramelin said:

Your mother would probably have some objections.

Not as much as my dad.

[+joc]

On 3/28/2024 at 2:36 PM, Abramelin said:

That's most probably what atheists will say...or believe.

But no one knows, not really.

I beg to differ.  Actually we do know. We have all been force fed programming of the belief of life after death from the time we were born.  Programming that was force fed to us by our parents, or by friends or neighbors or media, etc.    

Life after death is only a mental exercise of the human mind.  When one actually dies, then one is dead, and as such, one cannot return and tell anyone anything.  But that is the reality of finality.  Consciousness is an illusion created by our brains.  That's not just a cool thing to say, we actually know this is true.  Billions upon billions of neurons firing every second of every day in our brains creates the illusion of a continuation of thought, which creates the illusion of continuation of that 'consciousness' after death.  When the electricity goes off...the neurons stop firing, no more consciousness.  

The reason that we know consciousness cannot continue after death is pretty simple actually. 

1. Consciousness is a result of brain activity.

2. When the brain activity ends, consciousness ends.  

We know this to be true.  It is only the fantasy illusions, i.e.  'belief' in our brain that question that absolute reality.

[superman73]

On 3/26/2024 at 5:50 PM, Piney said:

I don't believe in karma in the next life. Only consequences in this one. I've also studied past life research and found it to be wanting or outright BS. 

 

Yes.When we die our energy goes back into the universe, I personally think the universe is a consciousness In itself.Mystery solved.lol

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 hours ago, superman73 said:

Yes.When we die our energy goes back into the universe, I personally think the universe is a consciousness In itself.Mystery solved.lol

Cool. I have always wanted to be a Universal Being!!!

[ReadTheGreatControversyEGW]

On 3/24/2024 at 3:11 PM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Scientists say that energy cannot be created — or destroyed. Therefore, when one dies, a body’s energy must go somewhere else. Scientists say this energy is redistributed into other forms upon one’s death.  Some atheists believe their death brings about this transformation. Though they don’t believe in any afterlife, they believe their death simply transforms their energy into something else in the universe.

That's what I'm talking about. "Science," the modern atheists' religion or source of spiritual beliefs. Can we verify that a person transforms into something else upon death? 

[Grim Reaper 6]

4 minutes ago, ReadTheGreatControversyEGW said:

That's what I'm talking about. "Science," the modern atheists' religion or source of spiritual beliefs. Can we verify that a person transforms into something else upon death? 

Yes, we can because energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed. What, it is transformed into I am unable to say but, death is not the end or the beginning it is only stop along the way to this transformation. 

[aquatus1]

Any "energy" we are talking about in reference to the human body is not turning into anything other than heat on our death.  "Energy" isn't some mystical nebulous mist.  Humans are electrochemical neural networks that somehow managed to cobble together a theory of mind alongside the lump of tissue we call a brain.

The real question regarding a "soul" and whether it has someplace to go beyond the body regards that theory of mind.  Not our brain, not the chemical reactions within our bodies, none of that is unaccounted for on death.  The only possibility would be that theory of mind somehow surviving, a la Ralph Waldo Emerson.

[cormac mac airt]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes, we can because energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transformed. What, it is transformed into I am unable to say but, death is not the end or the beginning it is only stop along the way to this transformation. 

There's no evidence of any transformation. Upon death the molecular bonds disintegrate and the atoms are then free to move elsewhere to combine with other atoms to form different molecules.

cormac

Edited April 4 by cormac mac airt

[Grim Reaper 6]

14 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

There's no evidence of any transformation. Upon death the molecular bonds disintegrate and the atoms are then free to move elsewhere to combine with other atoms to form different molecules.

cormac

What you said, is what I meant you have just articulated much better than I did!

Sorry for the confusion and thanks for clarifying what i was trying to say!

Edited April 4 by Grim Reaper 6

[+and-then]

On 3/28/2024 at 2:36 PM, Abramelin said:

That's most probably what atheists will say...or believe.

But no one knows, not really.

My father-in-law was a WWII Navy veteran who saw action at Iwo Jima and his ship helped to retrieve bodied after the Indianapolis sinking.  He was a proud man, hard worker, played fair and live a damned good life but the horrors he saw as a teen to 20s during that war forever destroyed his willingness to accept the idea that there is a God.  He said that when he breathes his last it's "lights out" and everything ends.

That isn't what I believe but to each his own.  If I'm wrong and he was right, I'll never know it.  If he was wrong then I still think a well-lived life of service and decency should count for something.

[psyche101]

On 3/31/2024 at 6:06 AM, joc said:

I beg to differ.  Actually we do know. We have all been force fed programming of the belief of life after death from the time we were born.  Programming that was force fed to us by our parents, or by friends or neighbors or media, etc.    

Doing well man 

You would be surprised at the hatred and vitriol I have received in this section of the forum for stating that simple fact. It's why I hardly post in this section any longer. One super ahole goes on the attack if anyone is sure about anything. It all had to be "nobody can know". Anything apparently. Agnostics can be as bad as fundies. 

[cormac mac airt]

20 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Doing well man 

You would be surprised at the hatred and vitriol I have received in this section of the forum for stating that simple fact. It's why I hardly post in this section any longer. One super ahole goes on the attack if anyone is sure about anything. It all had to be "nobody can know". Anything apparently. Agnostics can be as bad as fundies. 

Just because BS can travel the globe in the time it takes Truth to put its shoes on doesn’t mean you should stop telling the truth. 

cormac

[psyche101]

1 hour ago, cormac mac airt said:

Just because BS can travel the globe in the time it takes Truth to put its shoes on doesn’t mean you should stop telling the truth. 

cormac

It's usually personal. Just nasty unwarranted attacks out of nowhere. 

I like 99% of the people in here. A lot. 

One day one utter ahole decided to paint a target on me and attacks at every opportunity. I used to get along well with him and had no idea what changed. I should have picked up that he was two faced when he said I wouldn't have liked him when he first joined. I assume that when he was deciding who to target and I got picked. He posts regularly and is well liked. So I left this part of the forum to him. I think he's a two faced gutless prick though. As I said, I like everyone here and that BS shouldn't intrude into everyone's day so I rarely drop in anymore. I like it when he takes breaks from the forum. 

He knows who he is. 

Edited April 4 by psyche101

[Guyver]

9 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

 

He knows who he is. 

Whew?!  Glad that wasn’t me you were talking about.  

[psyche101]

Just now, Guyver said:

Whew?!  Glad that wasn’t me you were talking about.  

Hell no

We're brothers in strings dude

And we both like golf

And AC/DC.

 

[Guyver]

On 3/30/2024 at 1:06 PM, joc said:

I beg to differ.  Actually we do know. We have all been force fed programming of the belief of life after death from the time we were born.  Programming that was force fed to us by our parents, or by friends or neighbors or media, etc.    

Life after death is only a mental exercise of the human mind.  When one actually dies, then one is dead, and as such, one cannot return and tell anyone anything.  But that is the reality of finality.  Consciousness is an illusion created by our brains.  That's not just a cool thing to say, we actually know this is true.  Billions upon billions of neurons firing every second of every day in our brains creates the illusion of a continuation of thought, which creates the illusion of continuation of that 'consciousness' after death.  When the electricity goes off...the neurons stop firing, no more consciousness.  

The reason that we know consciousness cannot continue after death is pretty simple actually. 

1. Consciousness is a result of brain activity.

2. When the brain activity ends, consciousness ends.  

We know this to be true.  It is only the fantasy illusions, i.e.  'belief' in our brain that question that absolute reality.

I mean, you have stated the atheist position perfectly.  Everything you said about the body is true, but there’s a lot of people who believe in a thing called spirit which is separate from the body.  People have been contemplating about it, wondering about it, believing in it for a long time, and some of the great arguments have not been shown to be false. 
 

For example, let’s say that the soul exists, and upon death it becomes some sort of invisible mist.  At the moment of death, as the soul leaves the body it transforms into something that science can’t measure or understand right now.  It’s like the energy of consciousness is existing in another dimension, very close to ours, so close in fact maybe there is some interaction?  Or maybe it is our own dimension, who knows?  Anyway, such a thing may exist and you may not be aware of it.

[Guyver]

3 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Hell no

We're brothers in strings dude

And we both like golf

And AC/DC.

 

Please don’t forget motorcycles.