Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 #1 Share Posted March 27 Washington DC - Far-right Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene took to social media to express her extreme skepticism about the recent Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, and it didn't go over so well. Marjorie Taylor Greene slammed for conspiracies about Baltimore bridge collapse (msn.com) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 27 #2 Share Posted March 27 While I seriously doubt this was terror-related, the fact that local LEOs are ruling it out totally within hours of it happening simply doesn't pass the smell test. There is such a thing as following proper protocol and investigation. To make the situation even a bit more dodgy, this same vessel had a port acccident before that was ruled crew error. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted March 27 #3 Share Posted March 27 Nothing wrong with asking questions. Too early to rule anything out imho. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 27 #4 Share Posted March 27 16 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Nothing wrong with asking questions. Too early to rule anything out imho. Conversely, it’s too early to be theorising that it might be the boogeyman of the moment attacking America. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted March 27 #5 Share Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Nothing wrong with asking questions. Too early to rule anything out imho. I agree. Majorie Greene might be on to something. The ship sails 11,000 miles and suddenly develops a power outage right next to the bridge. This is a fully automated ship. So a cyber attack is not exactly outrageously out of the question even though Majorie is in this case a broken clock that’s right at least once a day, this should be investigated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted March 27 #6 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: I agree. Majorie Greene might be on to something. The ship sails 11,000 miles and suddenly develops a power outage right next to the bridge. This is a fully automated ship. So a cyber attack is not exactly outrageously out of the question even though Majorie is in this case a broken clock that’s right at least once a day, this should be investigated It was a ****e cyber-attack, given that if it happened 6 hours earlier or 6 hours later the death toll would be in the hundreds. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted March 27 #7 Share Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: It was a ****e cyber-attack, given that if it happened 6 hours earlier or 6 hours later the death toll would be in the hundreds. Aye, if it was a terrorist attack then it was carried out with the intention of causing the minimum number of casualties possible 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted March 27 #8 Share Posted March 27 If it was a terror attack I doubt the crew would have issued a warning when they knew they couldn't control the ship. Seems more to me like the election needs to find a terrorist attack. So who was it? The Indian crew or the South Americans on the construction crew? Who's the harbor master? The NTSB now has the ship's black box data recorder. We'll soon know what happened with the ship. Recovery search starts, ship data box recovered in Baltimore bridge collapse (msn.com) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 Author #9 Share Posted March 27 54 minutes ago, and-then said: While I seriously doubt this was terror-related, the fact that local LEOs are ruling it out totally within hours of it happening simply doesn't pass the smell test. There is such a thing as following proper protocol and investigation. To make the situation even a bit more dodgy, this same vessel had a port acccident before that was ruled crew error. The problem here is the fact that Marjorie Taylor Greeen is not the best person to bring this up. Everyone knows she is a complete Wack-job conspiracy theorist whose credibility is so for in the toilet that whenever she speaks all you can smell is ****!!!!! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1200 Posted March 27 #10 Share Posted March 27 28 minutes ago, and-then said: While I seriously doubt this was terror-related, the fact that local LEOs are ruling it out totally within hours of it happening simply doesn't pass the smell test. This reminds me of the fire at Notre Dame in 2019. Even as the fire was spreading, while firefighters were struggling to cope with the enormous magnitude of what was unfolding, politicians were declaring with implausible speed that it was definitely 100% an accident. Even though ancient churches in France are targeted on a daily basis and Notre Dame would be the ultimate trophy. I don't know about this incident: what I think is inconsequential. But to lambast a politician for asking might there be more to this than a tragic accident? implies that the swift declaration by a few individuals, pre-empting any formal scientific or legal investigation, is sacrosanct. Initial perspectives and interpretations might be wrong. Or they might prove to be correct. On the surface this looks like an horrendous but tragic accident. But could it be a cyber attack? Calling on all our resident hackers! is this completely ten zillion percent inconceivable? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 Author #11 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Conversely, it’s too early to be theorising that it might be the boogeyman of the moment attacking America. That's certainly true Hats, it is way early but MTG doesn't care as long as she can get some face time so she can spread more BS!!!! Edited March 27 by Grim Reaper 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted March 27 #12 Share Posted March 27 Same thing when that couple flew over the fencing around the border checkpoint in New York. That was a terror attack for hours until it was shown it wasn't. It's good to stay alert but as of now, there's no evidence that it was so it shouldn't be presented as anything more. The harbor talked to the ship's crew before the collision happened. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 27 #13 Share Posted March 27 I really didn't realise asking "Is this an accident or was it terrorists" was promoting conspiracies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 27 #14 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Washington DC - Far-right Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene took to social media to express her extreme skepticism about the recent Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse, and it didn't go over so well. Marjorie Taylor Greene slammed for conspiracies about Baltimore bridge collapse (msn.com) Is docyabut actually MTG? 🥷 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquatus1 Posted March 27 #15 Share Posted March 27 9 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: I really didn't realise asking "Is this an accident or was it terrorists" was promoting conspiracies To be fair, Marjorie Taylor Greene has priors. Otherwise, it's just political hand wringing. "Gosh, should there be a serious investigation? I was just gonna send the guys home after they taped off the bridge!" Thanks MTG. What would we do without you? As far as bringing up the terrorism boogeyman, people seem to be forgetting that the entire purpose of terrorism is the terror. If you plan your attack for the least amount of casualties, that's not terror. If you don't tell anyone that you are responsible for it, that's not terror. If people are being calm and rational because everything is indicating this was simply a tragic accident, trying to panic everyone by summoning the terrorist boogeyman is...kind of a stupid thing to do for what are supposed to the country's leaders. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 27 #16 Share Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: I really didn't realise asking "Is this an accident or was it terrorists" was promoting conspiracies Oh, is that the system now? Was this "accident" actually orchestrated by Trump supporters creating a crisis for Biden in election year? MTG suspiciously quick to apportion blame elsewhere... 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 27 #17 Share Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, aquatus1 said: To be fair, Marjorie Taylor Greene has priors. Otherwise, it's just political hand wringing. Not disagreeing with her colourful history, but that's not an excuse to twist a genuine question that I bet many people are thinking into a "conspiracy", just because the person saying it happens to be someone you don't like! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 27 #18 Share Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Setton said: Oh, is that the system now? Was this "accident" actually orchestrated by Trump supporters creating a crisis for Biden in election year? MTG suspiciously quick to apportion blame elsewhere... I don't understand your point, mate. Of course it wasn't orchestrated by Trump, though I wouldn't be surprised if the mainstream media tried that at some point either. Heck, they've already tried painting MTG a conspiracist for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted March 27 #19 Share Posted March 27 25 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: I don't understand your point, mate. Of course it wasn't orchestrated by Trump, though I wouldn't be surprised if the mainstream media tried that at some point either. Heck, they've already tried painting MTG a conspiracist for this You're saying there's nothing wrong with asking whether this is an accident or a terrorist attack. Given there's exactly the same evidence this was a terrorist attack as there is to suggest it was orchestrated by Trump (i.e. none), why is her question reasonable and mine not? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 27 #20 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Setton said: You're saying there's nothing wrong with asking whether this is an accident or a terrorist attack. Given there's exactly the same evidence this was a terrorist attack as there is to suggest it was orchestrated by Trump (i.e. none), why is her question reasonable and mine not? Given that terrorists are more likely to sabotage a ship than Donald Trump is, I don't think your comparison is accurate! I'm not saying that terrorism was a likely cause, but simply asking the question is not the same as promoting a conspiracy! Edited March 27 by Paranoid Android 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 Author #21 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Paranoid Android said: I really didn't realise asking "Is this an accident or was it terrorists" was promoting conspiracies If she didn’t have such a history as a conspiracy theorist it wouldn’t be fair, but anyone who claims that we were attacked with Jewish Space Lasers doesn’t deserve any consideration at all. This applies to you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 Author #22 Share Posted March 27 46 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: I don't understand your point, mate. Of course it wasn't orchestrated by Trump, though I wouldn't be surprised if the mainstream media tried that at some point either. Heck, they've already tried painting MTG a conspiracist for this They do not need to try, she does a fantastic job doing that herself! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 27 Author #23 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Tom1200 said: This reminds me of the fire at Notre Dame in 2019. Even as the fire was spreading, while firefighters were struggling to cope with the enormous magnitude of what was unfolding, politicians were declaring with implausible speed that it was definitely 100% an accident. Even though ancient churches in France are targeted on a daily basis and Notre Dame would be the ultimate trophy. I don't know about this incident: what I think is inconsequential. But to lambast a politician for asking might there be more to this than a tragic accident? implies that the swift declaration by a few individuals, pre-empting any formal scientific or legal investigation, is sacrosanct. Actually it is not sacrosanct at all, that politicians history clearly identifies her as a conspiratorial figure. Not long ago she claimed we were attacked by Jewish Space Lasers, and I am able to post many other Conspiracy theories she has pushed. Tom do a little research concerning my comments you may be surprised at what you find! Peace 2 hours ago, Tom1200 said: Initial perspectives and interpretations might be wrong. Or they might prove to be correct. On the surface this looks like an horrendous but tragic accident. But could it be a cyber attack? Calling on all our resident hackers! is this completely ten zillion percent inconceivable? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted March 27 #24 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Setton said: Is docyabut actually MTG? 🥷 Or Michelle?😅 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVK Posted March 28 #25 Share Posted March 28 Why investigators are looking into ‘dirty fuel’ in Baltimore bridge collapse According to a 2018 report for the Atlantic Council think tank, a “witches brew” of industrial products ends up in marine fuel, resulting in hundreds of engine failures in recent years that have left ships powerless and drifting across the high seas. The Dali went dark as it lost electrical power just before the bridge disaster, and the pilot lost the ability to control the ship as it veered toward the support structure of the bridge. That power loss could have been caused by dirty fuel clogging filters that lead to the ship’s main generator, said Gerald Scoggins, a veteran chief engineer in the oil and gas industry and the CEO of the Houston company Deepwater Producers. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ar-BB1kEfs8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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