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Pilot who reported UFO sends chilling final message before disappearing


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A pilot that disappeared almost 50 years ago left a creepy final transmission before vanishing off the face of the Earth. The incident occurred on 21 October 1978, as 20-year-old pilot Frederick Valentich was flying a Cessna 182L light aircraft from Moorabbin Airport in southern Melbourne, Australia, to King Island when he disappeared an hour into his journey. His chilling final transmission is sure to send shivers down your spine though.

The following is the conversation between the Pilot and Aircraft Control

1. Valentich informed air traffic control that he was accompanied by a fellow aircraft roughly 1,000ft above him

2. He radioed Melbourne Flight Service to inform them that an unidentified aircraft was following him at 4,500ft, but they responded by telling him that there was no recognized traffic at that height.

3. Valentich said he saw a large aircraft with four bright landing lights with a shiny metal surface and a green light.

4. Flight Service asked him to identify the plane, and he replied: "It's not an aircraft."

5.The final radio from his plane was described as a 'metallic scratching'

The rescue operation was carried out for four days, no trace of the Pilot or the Aircraft has ever been found!!

Pilot who reported UFO sends chilling final message before disappearing (ladbible.com)

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So the first question: did Melbourne Flight Service have him on radar?

If not, was he, in fact, not where he thought he was?  

Was he over water at the time?   If he was off his flight path and was over water, that may well explain why not wreckage was found.

Of course, the big problem with all these old cases is that we're often using reports of reports of reports - and details do tend to get exagerrated, changed, or omitted, over time (often to fit the required narrative).  The original data is probably not available.

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1 hour ago, Essan said:

So the first question: did Melbourne Flight Service have him on radar?

If not, was he, in fact, not where he thought he was?  

Was he over water at the time?   If he was off his flight path and was over water, that may well explain why not wreckage was found.

Of course, the big problem with all these old cases is that we're often using reports of reports of reports - and details do tend to get exagerrated, changed, or omitted, over time (often to fit the required narrative).  The original data is probably not available.

Here is a supporting paper that goes into detail concerning this disappearance tell if it was helpful.

Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion: Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion (scientificexploration.org)

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58 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Here is a supporting paper that goes into detail concerning this disappearance tell if it was helpful.

Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion: Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion (scientificexploration.org)

If this came from the SSE they are a pseudoscience organization who grifts for money. 

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3 minutes ago, Piney said:

If this came from the SSE they are a pseudoscience organization who grifts for money. 

I am not sure where it came from,

Here is a paper on the subject you may find interesting.

Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion (scientificexploration.org)

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3 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's the one you already posted.

Man sorry I miust lossing it. 

New paper: Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion: Valentich Disappearance: New Evidence and a New Conclusion (scientificexploration.org)

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4 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's the same paper too. 😆

The first one was an independent newspaper article, and this one is paper from the time when the incident occurred.

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8 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

The first one was an independent newspaper article, and this one is paper from the time when the incident occurred.

Nope, it's the same paper by R.F. Haines I downloaded from your first link.

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WikiLink It has been proposed that Valentich staged his own disappearance: even taking into account a trip of between 30 and 45 minutes to Cape Otway, the single-engine Cessna 182 still had enough fuel to fly 800 km (500 mi);[6] despite ideal conditions, at no time was the aircraft plotted on radar, casting doubts as to whether it was ever near Cape Otway;[7] and Melbourne police received reports of a light aircraft making a mysterious landing not far from Cape Otway at the same time as Valentich's disappearance

Another proposed explanation is that Valentich became disoriented and was flying upside down. If this were the case, the lights he thought he saw would be his own aircraft's lights, reflected in the water; he would then have crashed into the water.[8] However, the model Cessna he was piloting could not have flown inverted for long as it has a gravity feed fuel system, meaning that its engine would have cut out very quickly. Yet another proposed possibility is suicide. However, interviews with doctors and colleagues who knew him virtually eliminated this possibility.[9]

Isn't that what happened to JFK Jr.? 

Another possibility:   He and his plane were taken captive by a Drug Cartel.

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1 hour ago, Piney said:

Nope, it's the same paper by R.F. Haines I downloaded from your first link.

I am very sorry man, I apologize for the mistake!!!!!:yes:

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1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I am very sorry man, I apologize for the mistake!!!!!:yes:

No need brother. 

 

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1 hour ago, Piney said:

That's the same paper too. 😆

Sorry man, I need some coffee!!!!:w00t::yes:

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3 minutes ago, Piney said:

No need brother. 

 

Thank you very much because I am losing my mind!!!!!🤪

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2 hours ago, joc said:

Another proposed explanation is that Valentich became disoriented and was flying upside down. If this were the case, the lights he thought he saw would be his own aircraft's lights, reflected in the water; he would then have crashed into the water.[8] However, the model Cessna he was piloting could not have flown inverted for long as it has a gravity feed fuel system, meaning that its engine would have cut out very quickly. Yet another proposed possibility is suicide. However, interviews with doctors and colleagues who knew him virtually eliminated this possibility.[9]

:rolleyes:

Another proposed explanation: Valentich wasn't ever in a plane, but instead was on a meth bender, sitting in a bathtub with Rod Stewart in a machine shop.  This would explain the metallic tearing sounds he complained of, and Rod Stewart could easily have killed Valentich and liquidated him in said bath tub, perhaps using some sulfuric acid that the machine shop might have had on hand.  Despite being Australian, there isn't any evidence that Rod Stewart was somehow involved, or even in Australia at the time.  Moreover, sulfuric acid would take a significant amount of time to dissolve a human body, though the machine shop would likely have had or been able to produce a hand saw of some type, making piecing up Valentich rather easy, and the increased surface area of the pieced-Valentich would have resulted in the body being dissolved more quickly.  Rod Stewart would have been 33 years old at the time, and surely capable of using the tools to cut through Valentich's limbs, etc. "The First Cut is the Deepest" is even one of Rod Stewart's greatest hits - coincidence?  We also know that bathtubs were prevalent in Australia at least as far back as the 1960s.  As for the smell, it is well known alcohol can reduce olfactory sensitivity, and we also know that Fosters is a type of Australian beer, so we must assume the machine shop would have had a six pack or two on hand and that Rod Stewart could easily have pounded those before and during the process.

Using these powers of self-contradictory and speculative bulshtting, I mean, critical thinking, we can put to bed any number of unexplained mysteries! #wikipedia

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That is a compelling story.  Thanks for sharing @Grim Reaper 6

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13 minutes ago, Cho Jinn said:

:rolleyes:

Another proposed explanation: Valentich wasn't ever in a plane, but instead was on a meth bender, sitting in a bathtub with Rod Stewart in a machine shop.  This would explain the metallic tearing sounds he complained of, and Rod Stewart could easily have killed Valentich and liquidated him in said bath tub, perhaps using some sulfuric acid that the machine shop might have had on hand.  Despite being Australian, there isn't any evidence that Rod Stewart was somehow involved, or even in Australia at the time.  Moreover, sulfuric acid would take a significant amount of time to dissolve a human body, though the machine shop would likely have had or been able to produce a hand saw of some type, making piecing up Valentich rather easy, and the increased surface area of the pieced-Valentich would have resulted in the body being dissolved more quickly.  Rod Stewart would have been 33 years old at the time, and surely capable of using the tools to cut through Valentich's limbs, etc. "The First Cut is the Deepest" is even one of Rod Stewart's greatest hits - coincidence?  We also know that bathtubs were prevalent in Australia at least as far back as the 1960s.  As for the smell, it is well known alcohol can reduce olfactory sensitivity, and we also know that Fosters is a type of Australian beer, so we must assume the machine shop would have had a six pack or two on hand and that Rod Stewart could easily have pounded those before and during the process.

Using these powers of self-contradictory and speculative bulshtting, I mean, critical thinking, we can put to bed any number of unexplained mysteries! #wikipedia

Mystery solved I'd like to see the rodfather explain his way out of this one.he might also want to explain why he keeps telling everyone he's Scottish.

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19 minutes ago, Cho Jinn said:

:rolleyes:

Another proposed explanation: Valentich wasn't ever in a plane, but instead was on a meth bender, sitting in a bathtub with Rod Stewart in a machine shop.  This would explain the metallic tearing sounds he complained of, and Rod Stewart could easily have killed Valentich and liquidated him in said bath tub, perhaps using some sulfuric acid that the machine shop might have had on hand.  Despite being Australian, there isn't any evidence that Rod Stewart was somehow involved, or even in Australia at the time.  Moreover, sulfuric acid would take a significant amount of time to dissolve a human body, though the machine shop would likely have had or been able to produce a hand saw of some type, making piecing up Valentich rather easy, and the increased surface area of the pieced-Valentich would have resulted in the body being dissolved more quickly.  Rod Stewart would have been 33 years old at the time, and surely capable of using the tools to cut through Valentich's limbs, etc. "The First Cut is the Deepest" is even one of Rod Stewart's greatest hits - coincidence?  We also know that bathtubs were prevalent in Australia at least as far back as the 1960s.  As for the smell, it is well known alcohol can reduce olfactory sensitivity, and we also know that Fosters is a type of Australian beer, so we must assume the machine shop would have had a six pack or two on hand and that Rod Stewart could easily have pounded those before and during the process.

Using these powers of self-contradictory and speculative bulshtting, I mean, critical thinking, we can put to bed any number of unexplained mysteries! #wikipedia

Yep... this is about as good as any other "proposed explanation" around here good job :)

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10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

His chilling final transmission is sure to send shivers down your spine

 

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3 hours ago, quiXilver said:

That is a compelling story.  Thanks for sharing @Grim Reaper 6

Your very welcome, I thought it was very interesting also!!:tu:

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I recall a case very similar to this one, a single man in a small plane flying over the Bermuda Triangle.

At first, the pilot called ATC, panicking, to say he was lost, but should have been close to shore. That may be when the portal opened, and he got sucked in.
Then he called in saying he sees a UFO, and he describes it. And that was it. He was never heard from again.

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