Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 29 #1 Share Posted March 29 Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas avoided public outrage for years by not disclosing billionaire gifts. However, the move violated long-standing ethics laws. New information about why he received gifts raises questions. Legal experts suggest Justice Thomas may have avoided tax laws on such donations. However, Thomas has insisted that the gifts were innocent gestures from friends. Yet, he received many gifts after threatening to resign over the justices’ low salaries. One of Thomas’s vacation companions mentioned that they gave the money to supplement the justice’s “limited salary.” According to experts, if these benefits were to supplement Thomas’s regular pay and retain him on the court, they might be a taxable transaction instead of a gift. By choosing not to disclose such transactions publicly, Thomas evaded tax. He prevented watchdog groups from informing tax-enforcement officials about the potential issue in real-time. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to Face Lawsuit for Tax Fraud and Ethics Violations (msn.com) 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseraul Posted March 29 #2 Share Posted March 29 Good riddance. Dude is a bummer. We need better people in positions of authority. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 29 Author #3 Share Posted March 29 10 minutes ago, joseraul said: Good riddance. Dude is a bummer. We need better people in positions of authority. Your right man, currently there are far too many of these White-Collar Criminal!!!!!!!!!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #4 Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, joseraul said: Good riddance He isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseraul Posted March 30 #5 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 7 minutes ago, and-then said: He isn't going anywhere. You taking him in when he's stripped of his powers? ya'll can have slumber parties, log in together and be egregious together! Edited March 30 by joseraul 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #6 Share Posted March 30 You guys are just too funny. It's like the only emotion you have is anger and a focused hatred for people you disagree with. Your only viable means of getting rid of Thomas is to apply enough pressure to get him to resign. THAT is about as likely as Trump staying away from a camera 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #7 Share Posted March 30 8 minutes ago, and-then said: He isn't going anywhere. It appears that the Tax Evasion charges may hold up since there are hundreds of thousands of dollars that he excepted but never reported. I disagree that he isn’t going anywhere, because he is certainly going to Federal Court and before Ethics Committee. So, I think wishful thinking is going to save him at the point. But, time will tell JIMHO 2 minutes ago, joseraul said: You taking him in when he's stripped of his powers? That’s pretty dam funny!! 2 minutes ago, joseraul said: ya'll can have slumber parties, log in together and be egregious together! Ha! Ha!! Ha!!!stop it man I am laughing so hard Coffee just came out of my nose! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #8 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, and-then said: You guys are just too funny. It's like the only emotion you have is anger and a focused hatred for people you disagree with. Your only viable means of getting rid of Thomas is to apply enough pressure to get him to resign. THAT is about as likely as Trump staying away from a camera My friend it appears you’re unable to distinguish between the actual reality and your preconceived notions concerning the subject. Thomas can be prosecuted while filing position at the Supreme Court. He violated the Supreme Court Justice financial laws and he evaded tax’s so according to the Article along with other media sites they are going through with the prosecution. Suppose we will have see what happens. Edited March 30 by Grim Reaper 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #9 Share Posted March 30 Pretty sure he can only be removed by Impeachment and conviction. That requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 30 #10 Share Posted March 30 6 minutes ago, and-then said: Pretty sure he can only be removed by Impeachment and conviction. That requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate. You are right that the only way to remove a Supreme Court justice is by impeachment and there is absolutely zero chance of Justice Thomas being successfully impeached at this time. It's extremely unlikely it would even pass the majority house vote to even start it and would certainly fail at the 2/3 senate vote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #11 Share Posted March 30 19 minutes ago, and-then said: Pretty sure he can only be removed by Impeachment and conviction. That requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate. Your right, but he can still be prosecuted for violating the law, which would be a felony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #12 Share Posted March 30 48 minutes ago, DarkHunter said: You are right that the only way to remove a Supreme Court justice is by impeachment and there is absolutely zero chance of Justice Thomas being successfully impeached at this time. It's extremely unlikely it would even pass the majority house vote to even start it and would certainly fail at the 2/3 senate vote. Right. Mind, I'm not saying he did nothing shady, I don't know and frankly, neither does the OP. What I am comfortable saying is that he's far from being the first or last who could be accused of such things. Unless some kind of real proof was found where a quid-pro-quo led to a vote that benefited the party that gave the inducement, nothing is going to come of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #13 Share Posted March 30 41 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: Your right, but he can still be prosecuted for violating the law, which would be a felony. If they have the evidence, go for it. Once he had such a conviction on his record then the Left would say that he had to recuse from every case going forward and in this time of hyper-politicization, all that will do is weaken faith in the court and weaken our country even more. Those who think that is a good thing, don't love this nation, they just love their team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #14 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 1 minute ago, and-then said: If they have the evidence, go for it. Once he had such a conviction on his record then the Left would say that he had to recuse from every case going forward and in this time of hyper-politicization, all that will do is weaken faith in the court and weaken our country even more. Those who think that is a good thing, don't love this nation, they just love their team. Apparently they do have the evidence, but I don’t really think it will matter because the system is broken it will not matter. You’re the last person who should be talking about someone’s team, because that is like the kettle calling the teapot black. However, Supreme Court justices should not be above the law and that’s the real issue here, do you agree? Edited March 30 by Grim Reaper 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #15 Share Posted March 30 9 minutes ago, and-then said: Right. Mind, I'm not saying he did nothing shady, I don't know and frankly, neither does the OP. What I am comfortable saying is that he's far from being the first or last who could be accused of such things. Unless some kind of real proof was found where a quid-pro-quo led to a vote that benefited the party that gave the inducement, nothing is going to come of it. I don’t know if what he did violates his position or not. But, if he is guilty he should be prosecuted, because of his position alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 30 #16 Share Posted March 30 18 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: However, Supreme Court justices should not be above the law and that’s the real issue here, do you agree? Only if ALL of them are treated with the same standard. Remind me, what Democrat-appointed justices have been investigated to the degree of Thomas? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 Author #17 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, and-then said: Only if ALL of them are treated with the same standard. Remind me, what Democrat-appointed justices have been investigated to the degree of Thomas? Remind we which currently seated Justices have broken the law, because currently the only one I am aware of is Thomas. I am not aware of any other justices that have broken the law, are you?? Thomas got caught with his hand in the pocket of special interest groups, and we are not talking about a small amount. We are talking about a sum of money North of a Million dollars. To fully answer your question, it should not be a conversation of Republican or Democrat they should all be treated the same in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted March 30 #18 Share Posted March 30 (edited) From a quick Google search it seems a majority on the Supreme Court is guilty of something. Justice Sotomayor has had her staff push universities to buy her books before she will go speak at the university. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson has also failed to report all income on tax forms. Justice Alito didn't disclose gifts of travel and lodging. Justice Gorsuch seems to of sold a property at approximately $2 million dollars in a questionable deal. Justice Thomas and his ethics concerns are known and Justice Kavanagh has had multiple ethics violation charges brought against him but all have been dropped. There is a reason only like three Justices have openly backed ethics reform on the Supreme Court. All of those are ethics violations that could be used to impeach any of those Justices if enough pressure was put on them. The focus though is only on Justice Thomas though cause it seems they have decided he would be the easiest one to target of the more conservative leaning Justices. Edited March 30 by DarkHunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted March 30 #19 Share Posted March 30 11 hours ago, and-then said: Only if ALL of them are treated with the same standard. Remind me, what Democrat-appointed justices have been investigated to the degree of Thomas? And for good reason. If George Soros bought the house of a liberal justice's mother and let her live in it rent free while also providing the Liberal Justice a very large "loan" for a luxury RV, I would think you would be calling for that liberal justice to be investigated as well. Oh, and lets not forget not recusing oneself from a case in which your wife's text messages are involved. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted March 31 #20 Share Posted March 31 9 hours ago, Agent0range said: And for good reason. If George Soros bought the house of a liberal justice's mother and let her live in it rent free while also providing the Liberal Justice a very large "loan" for a luxury RV, I would think you would be calling for that liberal justice to be investigated as well. Oh, and lets not forget not recusing oneself from a case in which your wife's text messages are involved. If that happened AT would be calling for their literal execution 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Socks Junior Posted March 31 #21 Share Posted March 31 1 hour ago, Occupational Hubris said: If that happened AT would be calling for their literal execution No, you're exaggerating. There would be repeated reference to 'treason' and 'traitors' and 'do you know what the penalty for treason is...wink wink wink'. "Oh, what, me, calling for someone's death? Why whatever do you mean?" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted March 31 #22 Share Posted March 31 9 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said: No, you're exaggerating. There would be repeated reference to 'treason' and 'traitors' and 'do you know what the penalty for treason is...wink wink wink'. "Oh, what, me, calling for someone's death? Why whatever do you mean?" "How dare you use my exact words where i call for a civil war to say i was calling for a civil war!!! 😡" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #23 Share Posted March 31 4 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: "How dare you use my exact words where i call for a civil war to say i was calling for a civil war!!! 😡" I am totally confused; I just don't understand how war can be CIVIL. 🤪 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseraul Posted March 31 #24 Share Posted March 31 On 3/29/2024 at 9:47 PM, DarkHunter said: From a quick Google search it seems a majority on the Supreme Court is guilty of something. Justice Sotomayor has had her staff push universities to buy her books before she will go speak at the university. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson has also failed to report all income on tax forms. Justice Alito didn't disclose gifts of travel and lodging. Justice Gorsuch seems to of sold a property at approximately $2 million dollars in a questionable deal. Justice Thomas and his ethics concerns are known and Justice Kavanagh has had multiple ethics violation charges brought against him but all have been dropped. There is a reason only like three Justices have openly backed ethics reform on the Supreme Court. All of those are ethics violations that could be used to impeach any of those Justices if enough pressure was put on them. The focus though is only on Justice Thomas though cause it seems they have decided he would be the easiest one to target of the more conservative leaning Justices. Welcome to American Politics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseraul Posted March 31 #25 Share Posted March 31 (edited) Bipartisanship is a signifier of republic, which elects officials who are elected by people who ultimately do not have the time to vote, working 2-3 jobs/odd hours. This system of government eats itself, and the people. Up until the point they criticise and scrutinize the vote. Even if you win you aren't fully happy. The end of the grandest country. - I use the word grandest because since the 60's and 70's the economy hasn't served the average citizen. Monopoly on everything. Kruschev said this - ''America will destroy itself from within'' because its a basic philosophy thats swept under the rug but it's a theme in ancient Aztec/Chinese/Russian/literally everywhere else's philosophy that Western materialism will do us in. Supply/Demand Edited March 31 by joseraul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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