Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 30 #1 Share Posted March 30 (edited) Former President and 2024 Republican nominee Donald Trump has been criticized after sharing a video on his social media platform, Truth Social, of a truck bearing the image of President Joe Biden tied up. But what alarmed critics the most was the image of a hog-tied President Biden on the rear of the vehicle, giving the illusion he was being held in the back of the truck. The Video was posted March 29, 2024 which showed two vehicles decked out in American flags, a Blue Lives Matter flag—showing support for law enforcement—and other images. “Trump 2024” is seen on the side of the black pickup truck. The caption on the post appeared to indicate that the trucks were spotted in Long Island, New York, on Thursday, where Trump attended the wake of an NYPD officer who was shot and killed. But what alarmed critics the most was the image of a hog-tied President Biden on the rear of the vehicle, giving the illusion he was being held in the back of the truck. Trump Criticized For Posting Image Of Biden Tied Up | TIME Edited March 30 by Grim Reaper 6 1 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Occupational Hubris Posted March 31 #3 Share Posted March 31 I mean, it's not like his supporters would take anything he says or does as literal and actually act on it... oh wait.... 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #4 Share Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, Occupational Hubris said: I mean, it's not like his supporters would take anything he says or does as literal and actually act on it... oh wait.... The fact that Trump posted this on Truth Social is a call to violence, the only question is was he directly involved in producing the video and the photo. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted March 31 #5 Share Posted March 31 Remember when Kathy Griffin was on a magazine with a decapitated Trump head? Or maybe when they put a decapitated head of George Bush in Game of Thrones as an easter egg? Or all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives? 4 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 31 #6 Share Posted March 31 Hilarious 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #7 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Remember when Kathy Griffin was on a magazine with a decapitated Trump head? Or maybe when they put a decapitated head of George Bush in Game of Thrones as an easter egg? Or all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives? Your comments here are nothing more than Whataboutism, the fact you didn't describe the depiction of Biden as terrible means you except this behavior and thus the title of Whataboutist!!! Edited March 31 by Grim Reaper 6 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #8 Share Posted March 31 Just now, Grim Reaper 6 said: Your comment here are nothing more than Whataboutism, the fact you didn't describe the depiction of Biden as terrible means you except this behavior and thus the title of Whataboutist!!! This Twitter post is for you!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 31 #9 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: If @Edumakated was guilty of a Whataboutism in post #5 for bringing up Kathy Griffin, then this Tweet about Fox News' reaction to Kathy Griffin is also a Whataboutism, correct? But since you bring it up, I genuinely don't remember how Sean Hannity treated Kathy Griffin. I don't watch Fox News. You can go through my own post history in this forum where I have discussed the Kathy Griffin situation, and you will find I have been consistent in describing her actions as protected free speech - the old adage, "I don't agree with what you say but will fight to the death for your right to say it" rings very true here, and I fully approved of Kathy Griffin's right to free speech here. As I also naturally support Trump's free speech in posting a video of a truck! Edited March 31 by Paranoid Android 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted March 31 #10 Share Posted March 31 49 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Remember when Kathy Griffin was on a magazine with a decapitated Trump head? Or maybe when they put a decapitated head of George Bush in Game of Thrones as an easter egg? Or all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives? ^what^ he said Now, the lefties are saying, "But that's different!" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted March 31 #11 Share Posted March 31 53 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Remember when Kathy Griffin was on a magazine with a decapitated Trump head? Or maybe when they put a decapitated head of George Bush in Game of Thrones as an easter egg? Or all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives? Yes I do. Was it right? I don't think so. As I recall, that was about the career ender for Kathy. But go ahead and try to justify it to yourself and your friends. Kathy was not my choice for entertainment, but Trump is obviously your choice for leader. Takes all kinds I guess. I wouldn't mind so much if you could wallow in the filth to your hearts content without dragging the rest of us down into it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #12 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: If @Edumakated was guilty of a Whataboutism in post #5 for bringing up Kathy Griffin, then this Tweet about Fox News' reaction to Kathy Griffin is also a Whataboutism, correct? No it isn't Whataboutism because I can openly admit that the photo of Trump is terrible, and him and you are unable to say the samething about the image of Biden. That is what separates whataboutism from just making comment. 2 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: But since you bring it up, I genuinely don't remember how Sean Hannity treated Kathy Griffin. I don't watch Fox News. You can go through my own post history in this forum where I have discussed the Kathy Griffin situation, and you will find I have been consistent in describing her actions as protected free speech - the old adage, "I don't agree with what you say but will fight to the death for your right to say it" rings very true here, and I fully approved of Kathy Griffin's right to free speech here. As I also naturally support Trump's free speech in posting a video of a truck! If you say didn't or don't remember Hannity's comments I believe you. I don't agree with her right to share comments that could cause bodily to our leaders or anyone else. The 1st Amendment is not absolute the following are some situation that remove ones right to free speech. Limitations of free speech are restrictions or boundaries to freedom of speech that relate to12345: Libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, and false statements of fact Incitement, sedition, fighting words, hate speech, and speech that causes imminent lawless action Classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, and fraud *** Blocked ***ography, speech integral to illegal conduct, and speech that violates intellectual property law The right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, and non-disclosure agreements 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 31 #13 Share Posted March 31 2 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: ^what^ he said Now, the lefties are saying, "But that's different!" The situations aren't 100% comparable, though. For one, Kathy Griffin was fired from her job at CNN after the fallout of this, so whether you agree with her or not, she did face consequences for her actions, which is something that at least CNN was consistent in their cancel-culture approach. However, this situation isn't as simple as redressing this by firing Trump like Griffin was. Trump doesn't work for CNN, or any major business, so who will fire him? But more importantly, it seems as if Trump's social media post is just passing on a video of artwork someone else was responsible for creating (unless Trump commissioned the artist to paint the truck as he did), whereas Kathy Griffin went out of her way to pose with the severed head, so while I see them all as protected free speech, there's an extra step taken by Kathy Griffin to produce and create the artwork, which may be a key distinction that CNN took into consideration (would Griffin have been fired if she posted a video of someone else holding a Trump severed head?). In any case, just thought I'd expand the context a bit to get a broader understanding. Cheers for reading 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Link of Hyrule Posted March 31 #14 Share Posted March 31 5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: No it isn't Whataboutism because I can openly admit that the photo of Trump is terrible, and him and you are unable to say the samething about the image of Biden. That is what separates whataboutism from just making comment. Edumakated's final sentence in post #5 was "all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives". Arguably your Twitter-response here is a direct Whataboutism to counter this claim - the equivalent of "oh yeah, the left advocates against conservatives.... what about how the conservative media did it to Kathy Griffin". It's a classic Whataboutism of the most blatant kind! 5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: If you say didn't or don't remember Hannity's comments I believe you. I don't agree with her right to share comments that could cause bodily to our leaders or anyone else. The 1st Amendment is not absolute the following are some situation that remove ones right to free speech. Limitations of free speech are restrictions or boundaries to freedom of speech that relate to12345: Libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, and false statements of fact Incitement, sedition, fighting words, hate speech, and speech that causes imminent lawless action Classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, and fraud *** Blocked ***ography, speech integral to illegal conduct, and speech that violates intellectual property law The right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, and non-disclosure agreements Agreed! Kathy Griffin was never charged with a crime, it was decided that her actions didn't classify as hate speech or incitement, or any of the other points that would disqualify her from engaging in free speech. Therefore it's not illegal, therefore it's protected free speech and I will stand up for everyone's right to free speech. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #15 Share Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: The situations aren't 100% comparable, though. For one, Kathy Griffin was fired from her job at CNN after the fallout of this, so whether you agree with her or not, she did face consequences for her actions, which is something that at least CNN was consistent in their cancel-culture approach. I don't agree with her actions in fact I think they are despicable, But I think firing her was appropriate. Whether it's cancel-culture of not it doesn't matter. 11 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: However, this situation isn't as simple as redressing this by firing Trump like Griffin was. Trump doesn't work for CNN, or any major business, so who will fire him? But more importantly, it seems as if Trump's social media post is just passing on a video of artwork someone else was responsible for creating (unless Trump commissioned the artist to paint the truck as he did), whereas Kathy Griffin went out of her way to pose with the severed head, so while I see them all as protected free speech, there's an extra step taken by Kathy Griffin to produce and create the artwork, which may be a key distinction that CNN took into consideration (would Griffin have been fired if she posted a video of someone else holding a Trump severed head?). In any case, just thought I'd expand the context a bit to get a broader understanding. Cheers for reading Well thanks but like I said above she was way out of line and deserves everything thjat happened to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #16 Share Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: Edumakated's final sentence in post #5 was "all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives". Arguably your Twitter-response here is a direct Whataboutism to counter this claim - the equivalent of "oh yeah, the left advocates against conservatives.... what about how the conservative media did it to Kathy Griffin". It's a classic Whataboutism of the most blatant kind! Agreed! Kathy Griffin was never charged with a crime, it was decided that her actions didn't classify as hate speech or incitement, or any of the other points that would disqualify her from engaging in free speech. Therefore it's not illegal, therefore it's protected free speech and I will stand up for everyone's right to free speech. It certainly isn't because i acknowledged the fact that the beheaded figure was wrong. I will explain it again, whataboutism is used to attempt to change a subject, people who intentionally make whataboutism posts will not acknowledge that the content is wrong and ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #17 Share Posted March 31 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: Edumakated's final sentence in post #5 was "all the other times the left advocates violence against conservatives". Arguably your Twitter-response here is a direct Whataboutism to counter this claim - the equivalent of "oh yeah, the left advocates against conservatives.... what about how the conservative media did it to Kathy Griffin". It's a classic Whataboutism of the most blatant kind! You are blatantly stirring the pot there sparky, but that is ok because it is very obvious you don't know what your TALKING ABOUT!!!! So, please continue it feels wonderful to laugh this hard, thank you!! 29 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: Agreed! Kathy Griffin was never charged with a crime, it was decided that her actions didn't classify as hate speech or incitement, or any of the other points that would disqualify her from engaging in free speech. Therefore it's not illegal, therefore it's protected free speech and I will stand up for everyone's right to free speech. Edited March 31 by Grim Reaper 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted March 31 #18 Share Posted March 31 This is getting out of hand. That depraved monster Trump supports this. Earlier today the Easter bunny attacked Joe Biden. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #19 Share Posted March 31 @Paranoid Android here is the definition of Whataboutism. " the act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse" Whataboutism Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted March 31 #20 Share Posted March 31 Love the claims of Whataboutism... when they cry Whataboutism, it is because they know you are pointing out their hypocrisy. I defend Kathy Griffin's right to criticize Trump. My issue is that the left is constantly attacking conservatives under some guise of moral superiority. But then when conservatives do it, then all of a sudden, we are promoting violence, it is a dog whistle to extremist to do something violent, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 31 #21 Share Posted March 31 I'd say it is very disrespectful. But thats probably what they were going for. "Not My President" has become all too common, and not in a goid way. And noticably comes from both sides of the equation. C'Mon Man! Leave Brandon be... 😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted March 31 #22 Share Posted March 31 21 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Love the claims of Whataboutism... when they cry Whataboutism, it is because they know you are pointing out their hypocrisy. I defend Kathy Griffin's right to criticize Trump. My issue is that the left is constantly attacking conservatives under some guise of moral superiority. But then when conservatives do it, then all of a sudden, we are promoting violence, it is a dog whistle to extremist to do something violent, etc. Its because theyll give you examples. But then if you give THEM examples... Well now, those arent the same. Trying to burn down a Federal courthouse, is "Mostly Peaceful". 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted March 31 Author #23 Share Posted March 31 7 minutes ago, DieChecker said: Its because theyll give you examples. But then if you give THEM examples... Well now, those arent the same. Trying to burn down a Federal courthouse, is "Mostly Peaceful". I clearly said that he was practicing WHATABOUTISM and he did just that. I think in both cases it was despicable to post photos of either one of them, because both the photo's violated the 1st Amendment. Whataboutism Definition: the act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse In addition, the individuals who made the videos violated the 1st Amendment with their depictions. I am certain that the individual will be recaptured and tried for their crimes. Limitations of the 1st Amendment: Limitations of free speech are restrictions or boundaries to freedom of speech that relate to12345: Libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, and false statements of fact Incitement, sedition, fighting words, hate speech, and speech that causes imminent lawless action Classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, and fraud *** Blocked ***ography, speech integral to illegal conduct, and speech that violates intellectual property law The right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, and non-disclosure agreement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted March 31 #24 Share Posted March 31 35 minutes ago, DieChecker said: "Not My President" has become all too common, and not in a goid way. And noticably comes from both sides of the equation. You got that right. This election is going to be interesting to say the least. Mark Cuban won't vote for Trump for 1 big reason: turnover rate (msn.com) Former Republican Congressmen Warn Donald Trump Inciting Violence (msn.com) Bill Maher grills Esper for not backing Biden after calling Trump a 'threat to democracy': A 'binary' choice (msn.com) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted March 31 #25 Share Posted March 31 Mark Cuban also spoke out about Trump's inability to pay his New York bond. Go in the link and read about the title. Mark Cuban defends Trump after Dem lawmaker accused him of being too broke to pay $464M judgment (msn.com) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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