At least 7 shot, all under the age of 17, in mass shooting near Indianapolis mall

[CrimsonKing]

Just now, Hankenhunter said:

Trump ascendant.

Think it's more "instant fame" than Trump...

A lost generation with zero structure,very little truth,and learn from an early age Hollywood,sports heroes,and Musicians are gods...along with their TikTok heroes "influencers"

Parents have walked away,and let "influencers influence" how their children are raised.

[Tatetopa]

8 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

Anyone else remember ever being in a schoolyard fight?...

We'd throw a few punches, someone might have gotten a bloody nose,busted lip,ect. and it was over with...now days they go insane.

That is how it was when I was in High school, however, by the time my youngest step brother was in HS, fights had become group activities.  He is 12 years younger, went to HS in the same school district I did in North Dallas. During the only fight he ever got in,  the other kid's friends pushed him down and tried to kick and stomp him.  That was way back in 1992.

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

8 hours ago, and-then said:

The only direction America is heading for is DOWN.  Our system has always been dependent on adults reaching compromise.  That's gone now and the edifice we built cannot survive it.

Really sad dude, you have already given up without a single shot being fired how sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited April 1 by Grim Reaper 6

[Grim Reaper 6]

23 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

That is how it was when I was in High school, however, by the time my youngest step brother was in HS, fights had become group activities.

Ther same with me Tate, no one brought a gun it was simply fists fights all the way!

23 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

He is 12 years younger, went to HS in the same school district I did in North Dallas. During the only fight he ever got in,  the other kid's friends pushed him down and tried to kick and stomp him.  That was way back in 1992.

Yea thing have certainly changed, fist fights turn into gun fights and taking a life cool.  WTF happened, and what will government do to change things. We can't depend upon Trump, and Biden no longer has the physical or mental faculties to determine a solution. 

[acidhead]

4 hours ago, Edumakated said:

Thugs going to thug.  These types of mass shootings are common among a certain demographic.

The popularity of "switches" is resulting in a lot of wounded bystanders nowadays.

One of the many great things about using X is I was able to find out what you meant with the popularity of "switches" very quickly after I searched just the word and scrolling for a minute.

Something that would have taken awhile using Google because I had no idea what you're referring to and would have required some other key words. 

Though, on second thought I could have simply added the key word "gun". I'm tired.  

😂

Edited April 1 by acidhead

[Tatetopa]

8 hours ago, and-then said:

The only direction America is heading for is DOWN.  Our system has always been dependent on adults reaching compromise.  That's gone now and the edifice we built cannot survive it.

You surprised me on that one.  I thought you would mention family values, and I was prepared to agree with you. Inability to compromise may affect society as a whole, but I don't think that is the major influence on families.

It is my observation of popular culture that family activities and extended family relationships have greatly diminished over the last couple of generations.  In addition to that, anonymity seems to have replaced community on a large scale.   

How common are family dinners, family vacations, and shared interests between parents and children these days?  People wind up in age related groups rather than family groups.  Adults are busy, most families have two working parents, so time with  offspring is diminished.  Generational teaching and socialization of offspring has diminished. Parents know that children from 0-10 are forming their personality and how they will react with the world.  Parents sometimes forget that children from 10-20 are learning how to be a human and get along in this society. Help may not be provided or may not be wanted, but  the result is education from peers and social media.

Consider the irony of heading into unknown territory with a guide that has never been there either. Fourteen year old kids teaching others based on their 14 years of experience and judgement.  Lord of the Flies comes to mind.

[Tatetopa]

6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yea thing have certainly changed, fist fights turn into gun fights and taking a life cool.  WTF happened, and what will government do to change things. We can't depend upon Trump, and Biden no longer has the physical or mental faculties to determine a solution.

Ask everyone WTF happened and they will have a different idea.   Most likely, they would speak based on how old they are and where they lived,

But I do not think any government can fix this.   You can have the ultimate police state and eliminate crime, but unless humanity changes internally crime will find a way.

Somebody or something will have to come along that communicates to several hundred million people  of all ages, social backgrounds, and geographical areas  that this is not a good way to live. When enough people realize that, it will change, and not before. Whether it takes a major catastrophe or a Tik Tok Messiah, I don't know.

[Ajay0]

Unless gun controls are instituted in the US along with a value based education emphasizing nonviolence and reverence for life at the school level, such incidents will keep propping up consistently as it has been for years, indicating social failure. 

Also important to censor hollywood movies and video games with high levels of violence. 

There is a lot that can be done if there is political will, competent administrators and a good mental health ecosystem with the necessary professionals and resources.

If the above is lacking, leaders at the unofficial level should create grass roots movements to create awareness of gun controls and regulations, and demanding laws and legislation to ensure physical security of the common individual.

Edited April 1 by Ajay0

[Grim Reaper 6]

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Ask everyone WTF happened and they will have a different idea.   Most likely, they would speak based on how old they are and where they lived.

I totally everything is based upon how and especially where they grew. For self my answers are family, I mean, I had one that cared and instilled the proper values in my. I still believe if a child is screwed up, you don't have to look any further than the parents!

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

But I do not think any government can fix this.   You can have the ultimate police state and eliminate crime, but unless humanity changes internally crime will find a way.

I don't think government can fix these problems either, it started at home and that is the only place it can be corrected.

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Somebody or something will have to come along that communicates to several hundred million people  of all ages, social backgrounds, and geographical areas  that this is not a good way to live. When enough people realize that, it will change, and not before. Whether it takes a major catastrophe or a Tik Tok Messiah, I don't know.

I see your point; however I don't have clue how to go about changing things. I think the first changes that must be done is to make the children and teenagers afraid to act out. Currently that fear that we experienced is gone and the police have their hands tied by our government both state and federal.

So, if I had choice, I would make the Juvenile detention facilities like a federal prison in all respects. I would also remove the current law that allows juvenal offenders to be released from custody at 18 years old. I would give the judge the ability to sentence them to life terms, so that the only change for them would be from a juvenile detention facility to a federal prison at 18 years.

Anyway, that is where I would start, because the worst criminals today almost universally have a juvenile record. 

JIMHO

[Myles]

11 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I totally everything is based upon how and especially where they grew. For self my answers are family, I mean, I had one that cared and instilled the proper values in my. I still believe if a child is screwed up, you don't have to look any further than the parents!

I don't think government can fix these problems either, it started at home and that is the only place it can be corrected.

 

I agree.  These problems are on the parents.  many have dead beat dads, many have a mom that thinks the school should raise her children.  

[Edumakated]

It really isn't a mystery...

Upwards of 100% of in this demographic being raised by single mothers.  The kids are influenced by rap music to glorify gangs, thugs, and using firearms.  Zero economic prospects for gainful employment due to poor public school education and broken home life.

Basically feral young men running around shooting at each other over Facebook and Twitter disses....  it is like a real life Lord of the Flies.

[Doug1066]

SEVEN MORE PEOPLE INJURED IN GUN VIOLENCE AND ALL BECAUSE WE WON'T PUT THE SAME RESTRICTIONS ON OUR GUNS THAT WE PUT ON OUR DOGS.

Doug

[jmccr8]

33 minutes ago, Myles said:

I agree.  These problems are on the parents.  many have dead beat dads, many have a mom that thinks the school should raise her children.  

Hi Myles

Kids are institutionalised starting with daycare then school so they teach each other 

[Myles]

2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Myles

Kids are institutionalised starting with daycare then school so they teach each other 

That makes it more important for the parents to step in and be involved.  

[jmccr8]

2 minutes ago, Myles said:

That makes it more important for the parents to step in and be involved.  

Hi Myles

They should always be involved, in my family kids didn't go to daycare we took care of our own

[Myles]

47 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Myles

They should always be involved, in my family kids didn't go to daycare we took care of our own

Same here.   I had one of two daughters do daycare for a bit, but that was when my wife's friend ran it.  

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, Myles said:

I agree.  These problems are on the parents.  many have dead beat dads, many have a mom that thinks the school should raise her children.  

I totally agree Miles, that is the difference between the time I grew up 60-70s and today!!

[Myles]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I totally agree Miles, that is the difference between the time I grew up 60-70s and today!!

If you have children you must devote lots of time to them.  We were talking about a husband and wife yesterday (at work).  They had complained that they couldn't go out because they had to "babysit" their kids.  Idiots.