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30 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

Cool. Can you elaborate on what your point is, and how does this relate to the discussion we are having? 

If your able to comprehend what it means, think about it.:D In this case he called a Disabled Veteran and who is also an American hero a loser, and said that he wasn’t hero. No different than what he did in France at the American War Memorial / Cemetery. General Kelly was with him when Trump made the comments and he confirmed them. He has also prevented Disabled Veterans from being present in Parades, because he thought they were an embarrassment and he did all this with others present who commented on it afterwards.

So please carry on and have a wonderful April 1st.

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1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

If your able to comprehend what it means, think about it.:D In this case he called a Disabled Veteran and who also an American hero a loser, and sad that he wasn’t hero. No different than what he did in France at the American War Memorial / Cemetery. General Kelly was with him when Trump made the comments. He has also prevented Disabled Veterans from being present in Parades, because he thought they were an embarrassment and he did all this with others present who commented on it afterwards.

So please carry on and have a wonderful April 1st.

I didn't hear the word "loser". 

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2 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

I didn't hear the word "loser". 

Then your not listening.

 

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6 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Then your not listening.

 

As for McCain, Trump told a conservative forum in Iowa in 2015 that his view of McCain changed when McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Obama. "He lost, so I never liked him as much after that, 'cause I don't like losers," he said. Trump went on to dismiss McCain's war service: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Trump in 2015 also tweeted a news article on Twitter calling McCain a "loser."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/__trashed-2

 

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1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

As for McCain, Trump told a conservative forum in Iowa in 2015 that his view of McCain changed when McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Obama. "He lost, so I never liked him as much after that, 'cause I don't like losers," he said. Trump went on to dismiss McCain's war service: "He's not a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured."

Trump in 2015 also tweeted a news article on Twitter calling McCain a "loser."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/__trashed-2

 

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Yes it’s all true that video kinda shoots the Android in his foot, but he will never admit!:D Thanks for the link, it only proves my point even further.:yes:

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5 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

I didn't hear the word "loser". 

Uh oh. Now the inability to read is spreading to inability to watch videos.  

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14 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Then your not listening.

 

It's as I expected. He didn't call McCain a loser for being a soldier. He called him a loser because he lost the election. That is a different kettle of fish to the accusations that Trump called him a loser for being a military veteran or a cripple. Maybe that distinction doesn't matter to you. But it does to me. It matters, because it changes the entire context of Trump's comments. Calling McCain a "loser" because he joined the military is ****ed up. Calling him a loser because he lost is.... I don't know what it is but it's not ****ed up. Truth? Fact? Take your pick! Edit: Trump was a loser in 2020 too, by the exact same logic, and I know several members on UM who have called Trump a loser because of it. 

If it helps, that's an admission that he called McCain a loser, but it's also a hope that you can see the broader context and see how this isn't any way comparable to the situation in this thread, particularly that his status as a soldier had NOTHING to do with Trump calling him a loser. Trump attended the wake of a slain soldier, did this soldier lose a presidential race to Barrack Obama? If not, then why would people be surprised that he didn't call him a loser? See Post #19 for more details. If this slain soldier didn't lose an election race, what is the relevance? 

You guys are ridiculous, really you are :rolleyes: 

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42 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

It's as I expected. He didn't call McCain a loser for being a soldier. He called him a loser because he lost the election. That is a different kettle of fish to the accusations that Trump called him a loser for being a military veteran or a cripple. Maybe that distinction doesn't matter to you. But it does to me. It matters, because it changes the entire context of Trump's comments. Calling McCain a "loser" because he joined the military is ****ed up. Calling him a loser because he lost is.... I don't know what it is but it's not ****ed up. Truth? Fact? Take your pick! Edit: Trump was a loser in 2020 too, by the exact same logic, and I know several members on UM who have called Trump a loser because of it. 

If it helps, that's an admission that he called McCain a loser, but it's also a hope that you can see the broader context and see how this isn't any way comparable to the situation in this thread, particularly that his status as a soldier had NOTHING to do with Trump calling him a loser. Trump attended the wake of a slain soldier, did this soldier lose a presidential race to Barrack Obama? If not, then why would people be surprised that he didn't call him a loser? See Post #19 for more details. If this slain soldier didn't lose an election race, what is the relevance? 

You guys are ridiculous, really you are :rolleyes: 

You know he plainly said that Senator McCain was a loser and not a war hero because he was captured and held as a prisoner during the Vietnam War. But no matter, everyone who watches the video and reads our comments knows the truth, and that is you’re being very disingenuous. But, hey that’s ok I would expect no less from you, so all I can do is laugh at you like everyone else!!!:lol::P:D

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Trump is morally corrupt, he sexually assaults women, mocks reporters with disabilities  - do you somehow think he draws the line at talking negatively about veterans?

 

Birds of a feather flock together. And these days, the people I see who still stand up and who support Trump also have these same sociopathic tendencies. That's why he appeals to them.

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1 hour ago, joseraul said:

Trump is morally corrupt, he sexually assaults women, mocks reporters with disabilities  - do you somehow think he draws the line at talking negatively about veterans?

The reporter you refer to is an identical situation to the McCain situation. Trump mocked a reporter who was disabled, but he didn't mock the reporter BECAUSE of his disability. This is how the media interpreted it, and I can see how they arrive at that, but if you watch other videos where Trump mocks other people his hand gestures and mannerisms are identical - watch the video at this link for several examples of such hand gestures and mannerisms in other contexts. 

It's obvious that Trump mocked the reporter. It is obvious that the reporter is disabled. It is not obvious that Trump mocked the reporter BECAUSE he was disabled! The evidence suggests otherwise. 

I don't think he "draws the line at talking negatively about veterans", I don't think he speaks negatively of veterans at all. The example of John McCain is just one example of this. He did speak negatively of McCain and called him a loser - a loser because he lost the election, not because he was a soldier. All other accusations of Trump calling soldiers "losers" is from either anonymous sources (as per the article in The Atlantic in 2020) and John Kelly (as per the other article from 2022), both of which have been strenuously denied by Trump and/or his campaign team. 

So let's recap - multiple allegations of Trump calling soldiers "losers" and "suckers", yet the only evidence presented is of Trump calling one former a soldier a loser because he lost! 

 

1 hour ago, joseraul said:

Birds of a feather flock together. And these days, the people I see who still stand up and who support Trump also have these same sociopathic tendencies. That's why he appeals to them.

Nice pop psychology. Did you read that on a cereal packet? 

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2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

You know he plainly said that Senator McCain was a loser and not a war hero because he was captured and held as a prisoner during the Vietnam War.

Trump said that being captured in war doesn't automatically make one a "war hero", he didn't say it makes one a loser! He only used the "loser" tag once, and that was in reference to McCain losing the election. 

 

2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

But no matter, everyone who watches the video and reads our comments knows the truth, and that is you’re being very disingenuous. But, hey that’s ok I would expect no less from you, so all I can do is laugh at you like everyone else!!!:lol::P:D

I do agree with you on one thing, though - those reading along can see the context of the video for themselves :tu: 

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18 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

 

Nice pop psychology. Did you read that on a cereal packet? 

Typical response from a bird of the same feather as him.

Youre sticking up for someone who will go down as one of the worst human beings who ever existed. Have fun.

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17 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes it’s all true that video kinda shoots the Android in his foot, but he will never admit!:D Thanks for the link, it only proves my point even further.:yes:

Conversing with that poster is a waste of time unless you want to crawl up Donald's backside.

 

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQpxzW3GHzUYs0XX16i8TV

 

Normal people "get it". The context is pretty clear. 

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11 hours ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Uh oh. Now the inability to read is spreading to inability to watch videos.  

Need a video to know how to watch the video......

 

images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS46XnM4lzdPo1Q3HErK71

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The trump fluffing in this thread is unreal

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1 hour ago, joseraul said:

Typical response from a bird of the same feather as him.

Youre sticking up for someone who will go down as one of the worst human beings who ever existed. Have fun.

Did you read THAT on a cereal packet too? But it gave you an excuse to dodge the facts I presented in my post, so good for you. 

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1 hour ago, Paranoid Android said:

Did you read THAT on a cereal packet too? But it gave you an excuse to dodge the facts I presented in my post, so good for you. 

I didn't dodge any facts. I'm saying he's awful.

And the people who support him tend to be awful, too. Not a difficult concept.

It's a cult.

 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/15-most-offensive-things-trump-campaign-feminism-migration-racism/

Politicians/leaders of the world should just be better, period. Lol.

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3 hours ago, joseraul said:

I didn't dodge any facts. I'm saying he's awful.

And the people who support him tend to be awful, too. Not a difficult concept.

It's a cult.

 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/15-most-offensive-things-trump-campaign-feminism-migration-racism/

Politicians/leaders of the world should just be better, period. Lol.

Well obviously you eat better cereal than he does!!! Your packets are much more real world than his. :lol:

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I apologize, Paranoid Android. I don't mean to be harsh on people. Sorry.

In my defense you are sticking up for a person who doesn't care about you. Anyway. Sorry, Forum. I hope people can have two-sided discussions. And we can all see each others sides and angles.

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