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On 5/6/2024 at 5:26 AM, Harte said:

He could also be a werewolf.

Harte

The best comeback I’ve seen here … in a year.

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1 hour ago, Kenemet said:

You and your sources may not like it

This part I really want to focus on specifically cause it shows how partisan and driven by politics you are.

18 hours ago, Kenemet said:

And thank you as well.  I did wonder about the neutrality of the previous piece.

You question the neutrality of my source but welcome with open arms an article from NPR, who is known for being extremely biased to the left especially for the past decade or so.

Meanwhile my source is from the Juris Magazine of Duquense Law School, which is in the top 100 law schools in the nation.

So you question my source from a law university but accept an article written by a far left news organization.  This just shows how politically driven people are and how they want confirmation of their views then actually think about them critically

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31 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

The best comeback I’ve seen here … in a year.

Yeah, I don't visit here much anymore. LOL

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37 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

This part I really want to focus on specifically cause it shows how partisan and driven by politics you are.

You question the neutrality of my source but welcome with open arms an article from NPR, who is known for being extremely biased to the left especially for the past decade or so.

Meanwhile my source is from the Juris Magazine of Duquense Law School, which is in the top 100 law schools in the nation.

So you question my source from a law university but accept an article written by a far left news organization.  This just shows how politically driven people are and how they want confirmation of their views then actually think about them critically

Your source is, as the page says, a blog.  It's an op-ed analysis of a ruling and it's written by a conservative who disagrees with the ruling.

He's entitled to his opinion and his reasoning, which is well laid out as a case argument.  We don't actually see much of the other side.  I think the NPR article is a lot more balanced on this one.

Your mileage may vary.

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9 hours ago, the13bats said:

I've seen on here a certain very loyal ( bent knee head bowed ) Trump subject list what it would take to make elections fair in his opinion,

I've also seen that same person say any outcome that dolt45 isn't the winner will not be accepted/tolarated.

And go on to bray well over half the country will not accept it and then he goes into doom and gloom predictions if BOM can't threaten and bully the American people into getting his way.

2020 showed how the people felt.

 

I watched Tim Scott twist every which way but loose trying to avoid this question.  No election will be fair unless Trump win.   Any person who wants to lead but cannot be clear about what they believes and what they will do seems in my mind unfit for office.

Trump is sometimes honest, as when he told the oil companies he will reverse Biden's green energy policies for a billion dollars in campaign contributions. OMG  I can't think of anything so blatant about selling out  US citizens for international elite corporations..

The ads will write themselves.  Again it will be fear, Biden will not have to promise anything more than not selling out voters to Shell Oil.

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2 hours ago, Kenemet said:

Did you notice that his newly appointed RNC spokesperson is (I kid you not) a bikini model? https://nypost.com/2024/05/06/us-news/meet-elizabeth-pipko-the-maga-loving-bikini-model-who-is-gops-sexiest-new-spokeswoman/

Yeah... just what we all needed in a politician -- the ability to show off a Brazilian wax.  

I did, however, look her up and she does have some cred... so it's not as peculiar as one might think: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Pipko

I did see that, another Melania clone too.  I think she has a technical degree.  I have a physics degree, but being a national spokesman is not in my wheelhouse.  She is another hot apprentice with no experience.

This is a glaring trend I notice.  Barron Trump after graduating from High School will participate in the Florida RNC meeting.  Don Snoreleone is bringing Michael (Barron) into the family business.

It seems stupid for a candidate and suicidal for a country to put a host of amateurs in charge of running a campaign or country.  My psychoanalysis, and I got my degree from Pogo Swamp College, is that Trump realizes he got where he is not by knowing business as much as by threats and bull****.   He thinks experts are useless and he can put anybody in charge of anything as long as they love him and look good in a bathing suit.

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5 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I did see that, another Melania clone too.  I think she has a technical degree.  I have a physics degree, but being a national spokesman is not in my wheelhouse.  She is another hot apprentice with no experience.

This is a glaring trend I notice.  Barron Trump after graduating from High School will participate in the Florida RNC meeting.  Don Snoreleone is bringing Michael (Barron) into the family business.

It seems stupid for a candidate and suicidal for a country to put a host of amateurs in charge of running a campaign or country.  My psychoanalysis, and I got my degree from Pogo Swamp College, is that Trump realizes he got where he is not by knowing business as much as by threats and bull****.   He thinks experts are useless and he can put anybody in charge of anything as long as they love him and look good in a bathing suit.

 

5 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Again it will be fear, Biden will not have to promise anything more than not selling out voters to Shell Oil.

Drunken tailgators wooting and braying are a loud minority I'm sure BOM go all a tingles when he saw miss rnc, remember he said women let him do as he pleases.

Lol, remember his life costing failed covid response didn't he put that son in law in charge of covid. The only human Slenderman is scared of, just imagine the body count that cost.

You nailed it. "fear" Trump isn't the stupid funny bumbling game show host, he's a scary looney criminal,   we saw Americans agreed 2020 they hate and fear him more now and he only has his incompetent self and mindless minions to blame.

 

 

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Trump passed a law making animal cruelity a felony,which is commendable. 

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8 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Trump is sometimes honest, as when he told the oil companies he will reverse Biden's green energy policies for a billion dollars in campaign contributions. OMG  I can't think of anything so blatant about selling out  US citizens for international elite corporations..

This is making the rounds now.   Selling out the country for a billion dollars worth of personal wealth!  How slimy is that?  How can MAGA even talk about being patriotic?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/oil-industry-orders-Trump-day-one-00156705

A little bold and gross’: Oil industry writes executive orders for Trump to sign

 

The U.S. oil industry is drawing up ready-to-sign executive orders for Donald Trump aimed at pushing natural gas exports, cutting drilling costs and increasing offshore oil leases in case he wins a second term, according to energy executives with direct knowledge of the work.

The effort stems from the industry’s skepticism that the Trump campaign will be able to focus on energy issues as Election Day draws closer — and worries that the former president is too distracted to prepare a quick reversal of the Biden administration’s green policies. 

Oil executives also worry that a second Trump administration won’t attract staff skillful enough to roll back President Joe Biden’s regulations or craft new ones favoring the industry, these people added.

 

The bolding is mine.  Even they know he is not competent and will not hire competent people.  They are going to protect themselves and throw the rest of us to the sharks. The definition of treason is very limited and very specific, this does not fit it, but it sure make Trump unfit for office.

 

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1 hour ago, superman73 said:

Trump passed a law making animal cruelity a felony,which is commendable. 

Actually, he didn't.

He signed into law a bill that was first introduced by two House Representatives from Florida, Democrat Ted Deutch and Republican Vern Buchanan.  It passed the House and then Democrat Richard Blumenthal from Connecticut and Republican Patrick J. Toomey from Pennsylvania pushed it through the Senate.  https://www.npr.org/2019/11/25/782842651/Trump-signs-law-making-cruelty-to-animals-a-federal-crime

Trump just signed it into law.  Beyond his signature, he had nothing to do with it.

Here's the record of his remarks (you can tell when he's reading a prepared statement and when he is just extemporizing.)  Note that he's not aware that this was the first federal statute about animal cruelty:
https://Trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-Trump-signing-ceremony-h-r-724-preventing-animal-cruelty-torture-pact-act/

 

I hate to sound rude, but if you check you will find that most of his accomplishments are him taking a victory lap for signing something after others did years (or decades) of work on the issue.

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2 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

This is making the rounds now.   Selling out the country for a billion dollars worth of personal wealth!  How slimy is that?  How can MAGA even talk about being patriotic?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/08/oil-industry-orders-Trump-day-one-00156705

A little bold and gross’: Oil industry writes executive orders for Trump to sign

 

The U.S. oil industry is drawing up ready-to-sign executive orders for Donald Trump aimed at pushing natural gas exports, cutting drilling costs and increasing offshore oil leases in case he wins a second term, according to energy executives with direct knowledge of the work.

The effort stems from the industry’s skepticism that the Trump campaign will be able to focus on energy issues as Election Day draws closer — and worries that the former president is too distracted to prepare a quick reversal of the Biden administration’s green policies. 

Oil executives also worry that a second Trump administration won’t attract staff skillful enough to roll back President Joe Biden’s regulations or craft new ones favoring the industry, these people added.

 

The bolding is mine.  Even they know he is not competent and will not hire competent people.  They are going to protect themselves and throw the rest of us to the sharks. The definition of treason is very limited and very specific, this does not fit it, but it sure make Trump unfit for office.

 

And what's just sick is his bent knees are all brow furrowed trying to come up with some hairbrained way to defend BOM once again placing himself ahead of the country, I would have thought there were laws again something like this.

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1 hour ago, Kenemet said:

I hate to sound rude, but if you check you will find that most of his accomplishments are him taking a victory lap for signing something after others did years (or decades) of work on the issue.

But he made a wall. Completed it and mexico was delighted to pay for it.

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21 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I'm in doubt. First, Trump will not select anyone who is not loyal to him before their loyalty to the country.  That seems to be the drift of what  everyone around him has been saying.   Trump continues to select family members for jobs they are not qualified to hold.   He is lo0oking for loyalty and no  back talk. 

Yeah, i saw that bit with Barron.

If he wants my vote, he'll pick a VP with some guts, and not a total Yes Man.

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20 hours ago, the13bats said:

What also deserves consideration is Trump never won popular and lost 2020 not because people all wanted sleepy but rather because they didn't want Trump,

Except that he got like 10 million more votes in 2020, than he did in 2016. So, thats technically not true.

Plenty of people wanted him. Its just that the mail in voting allowed those who stayed home in 2016, and didnt vote than, to vote in 2020. And much more of those were Ds, than Rs. Or, so the story goes...

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in 2016 a big part of Trump winning was people didn't really want hilly and gave dolt45 a chance that he of course blew and they sorly regret.

A recent CNN poll said 55% of people think Trumps 4 years were not so bad. Same poll says 38% think Biden years are not so bad.

"Sorely regrettting" it isnt really how people feel. More regret voting Biden in 2020, than regret voting Trump in 2016.

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BOM lost a lot of support with his antics of cry baby sore loser election fraud claims, failed insurrection and countless crimes we all saw people we thought were Trump subjects denounce him after Jan 6th.

True.

Though if anyone but Granpa Sniffer Biden was running, I think a lot of those people wouldnt be holding their noses to vote Trump this time.

Hes not as bad as Trump, but he is a Democrat on top of being a senile idiot panderer. So in the eyes of most Rs, that makes them about even. 

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7 hours ago, Kenemet said:

 

 

I hate to sound rude, but if you check you will find that most of his accomplishments are him taking a victory lap for signing something after others did years (or decades) of work on the issue.

Reminds me of when republicans vote against infrastructure bills, then put up campaign signs about what a great job they did getting roads and bridges rebuilt for their constituents. 

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I bet it stings never winning popular vote

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On 5/10/2024 at 12:00 AM, the13bats said:

And what's just sick is his bent knees are all brow furrowed trying to come up with some hairbrained way to defend BOM once again placing himself ahead of the country, I would have thought there were laws again something like this.

Not really. We are laughing at how bitter and pathetic you all sound. There is literally nothing you won’t believe so long it’s as negative about Trump. The worse the lie the better. 
 

Far as I’m concerned you all lost credibility with the fear mongering from the first election. Not one prediction made came to pass. 

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24 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Not one prediction made came to pass. 

They're actually recycling the fake predictions that didn't happen in 2020 and saying "well, he didn't do it last time, but this time he will". It's hilarious to watch :lol: 

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Typical dolt45 false claims his subjects are duped on.

BOM

 

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7 hours ago, lightly said:

How could he possibly loose again?

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On 5/22/2024 at 12:27 AM, the13bats said:

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I think the fact some of those arent true reflects on those "Factchecking" sites. Its like letting Fox News do all your fact checking for you. Facts might be true, in a round about context, but in reality are completely untrue.

Example...

https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/fact-check-team-examining-president-joe-bidens-vacation-time-in-comparison-to-predecessors-donald-Trump-mar-a-lago-george-w-bush-barack-obama-delaware-rehoboth-beach-personal-business-rnc-pool-reports

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Former President Donald Trump spent a little over a quarter of his presidency, around 380 of his 1,461 days in office on personal trips.

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George W. Bush took 1,020 days off in eight years.

And...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating#:~:text=Harry Truman registered a 22,14%2C 1952%2C Gallup poll.

Donald Trump lowest Approval = 34%

George W Bush lowest Approval = 25%

CLEARLY at least two of the "Facts" are incorrect. Or need some kind of spin in a special context...

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