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Expert's theory would solve 'world's clearest UFO photo' taken in UK


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30 years after it was taken, an expert believes he's solved the mystery behind the 'World's clearest UFO photo'. Dubbed the 'Calvine Photograph,' negatives of the picture were originally handed over to Scotland's Daily Record newspaper, who in turn sent it to the Ministry of Defence (MOD). Behind the 'alien' craft is a fighter jet, leading some to believe that it was a UFO encounter that was handled by the military. After Russell's name was shared, Holland spoke about his theory that the image was of a secret military aircraft on a test flight. He believes that British Aerospace was working on a new radar-proof defence system, which included the diamond-shaped ship, and the Harrier jet spotted in the background was escorting the experimental aircraft. Holland continued: "I think there is an acceptance by many that the photo is not a fake. There was, I believe, a mysterious aircraft in the sky that day.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/science/expert-theory-calvine-photograph-ufo-920468-20240404

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It was probably a flying wing; they were the hot new technology post WW2 onwards. The Brits test flew and crashed at least one Horton they captured (in 1948), all highly secret. 1990 would have been in the timeframe to try new types. The US stealth bombers also look very angular compared to conventional aircraft: Horten Ho 229 - Wikipedia

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Would this work?  @ChrLzs 

 

 

 

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The thing that is missing is anything to suggest it couldn't be terrestrial, eg fast maneuvers...

As pointed out, there are claims it was an experimental aircraft, but they are just anecdotal as far as I can see.  It works both ways...

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/secret-behind-best-ever-ufo-sighting-revealed/news-story/105a08c1a7caf70f6f41c477a563fd3a

 

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It could go either way, the Harrier escorting the British craft, or the Harrier was scrambled to keep a UFO in check. No way to know.

However, this was 1990, 34 years ago. If the Brits had such a craft as the UFO, one would suspect that it would be into production by now.

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57 minutes ago, pellinore said:

It was probably a flying wing; they were the hot new technology post WW2 onwards. The Brits test flew and crashed at least one Horton they captured (in 1948), all highly secret. 1990 would have been in the timeframe to try new types. The US stealth bombers also look very angular compared to conventional aircraft: Horten Ho 229 - Wikipedia

You are certainly right, all the Steath Aircraft built by the United States are Flying Wing Variants. However, the UAP in the photo is clearly not a Flying Wing. The shape is completely wrong, however it could be a experimental aircraft being tested by the UK.

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6 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

It could go either way, the Harrier escorting the British craft, or the Harrier was scrambled to keep a UFO in check. No way to know.

However, this was 1990, 34 years ago. If the Brits had such a craft as the UFO, one would suspect that it would be into production by now.

If you read the full links.. it looks more likely to be a US creation, either a stealthy kinda thing or a sophisticated target..?  You really should read all of the link I supplied. If it's true - and who knows.. we may not find out till 2076.  :D 

 

BTW, my first thought when I saw that image was that it was a little island reflecting in the water.  I am leaning away from that now.. :) 

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6 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

It could go either way, the Harrier escorting the British craft, or the Harrier was scrambled to keep a UFO in check. No way to know.

However, this was 1990, 34 years ago. If the Brits had such a craft as the UFO, one would suspect that it would be into production by now.

I agree it should be in production at point, however it’s possible that it never made past its experimental phase. Either way it’s a cool photograph, I will leave it up to the resident experts to decide what it is and if it is real or not.

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FTR, I (a renowned evil skeptic..) see nothing about this image to suggest it is faked.  Indeed, if I was faking it, it would be of much better quality!

However, it doesn't show us the speed it was moving, nor anything else that is special or unexplainable other than its slightly odd shape.  So nothing to suggest it requires an offworldly special explanation.  It could be an alien craft, but without any other evidenced cases of that, it's not really a valid hypothesis at this stage.

 

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I always thought it had the look of an old radar target type idea, maybe inflated there might be clues that are not in the frame to show what it is.

The back story to me is dubious

It doesn't to me have a look of high speed much less space travel and then if aliens then it's the best kept secret ever.

 

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32 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I always thought it had the look of an old radar target type idea, maybe inflated there might be clues that are not in the frame to show what it is.

The back story to me is dubious

It doesn't to me have a look of high speed much less space travel and then if aliens then it's the best kept secret ever.

 

I also think it is a Government project of some kind, you could certainly be right it maybe a radar target.:yes:

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18 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I also think it is a Government project of some kind, you could certainly be right it maybe a radar target.:yes:

Sure, governments knew what it was but I personally don't think aliens it has that man made prototype vibe to me,

I doubt the powers to be were delighted that pita hikers got pix

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Just now, the13bats said:

Sure, governments knew what it was but I personally don't think aliens it has that man made prototype vibe to me

I don't believe it is an alien craft, when I started this thread, I was going off the assumption that it was a government project.

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13 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I don't believe it is an alien craft, when I started this thread, I was going off the assumption that it was a government project.

I like such threads I always considered the Betty cash case to be some secret military something if it actually happened the problem was she turned it into such a woe is me cash grab and let the UFO profiteers run wild with it, idk I think they likely saw something that inspired the case,

Same with rendelshiem, kecksburg and shag harbor, Roswell etc no aliens involved just mundain events that spawened the attention seekers to embellish tales to chase fame and Fortune

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7 hours ago, the13bats said:

I always thought it had the look of an old radar target type idea, maybe inflated there might be clues that are not in the frame to show what it is.

That's good thought! The developers of stealth technology would have wanted targets to test their ideas. So a stealthy target drone is entirely feasible - and it would be top secret.

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Perhaps the real significance of this photo is that 35 years later, no-one has taken a clearer image of a UFO. 

Despite everyone carrying high tech cameras with them all the time these days.   Or, maybe, that is the reason?  ;) 

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Hey my friends

It's fascinating to revisit the intriguing case of the 'Calvine Photograph' and the ongoing mystery surrounding it, even three decades after its initial capture. The emergence of new insights and theories from experts like Russell and Holland adds another layer of complexity to the story.

The idea that the 'alien' craft depicted in the photograph could potentially be a secret military aircraft undergoing testing raises compelling questions about the intersection of military operations and public perception of UFO phenomena. The notion that the diamond-shaped ship was part of a radar-proof defense system being developed by British Aerospace adds a fascinating twist to the narrative.

While there may never be a definitive conclusion to the mystery of the 'Calvine Photograph,' the ongoing speculation and debate serve as a reminder of humanity's enduring fascination with the unknown and our relentless pursuit of answers. As technology continues to advance and new evidence comes to light, perhaps one day we will uncover the truth behind this enigmatic image.

In the meantime, the 'Calvine Photograph' remains a captivating piece of UFO lore, sparking imaginations and fueling discussions about the possibility of extraterrestrial encounters and the secrets that may lie beyond our understanding.

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11 hours ago, MysticQuester said:

Hey my friends

It's fascinating to revisit the intriguing case of the 'Calvine Photograph' and the ongoing mystery surrounding it, even three decades after its initial capture. The emergence of new insights and theories from experts like Russell and Holland adds another layer of complexity to the story.

The idea that the 'alien' craft depicted in the photograph could potentially be a secret military aircraft undergoing testing raises compelling questions about the intersection of military operations and public perception of UFO phenomena. The notion that the diamond-shaped ship was part of a radar-proof defense system being developed by British Aerospace adds a fascinating twist to the narrative.

While there may never be a definitive conclusion to the mystery of the 'Calvine Photograph,' the ongoing speculation and debate serve as a reminder of humanity's enduring fascination with the unknown and our relentless pursuit of answers. As technology continues to advance and new evidence comes to light, perhaps one day we will uncover the truth behind this enigmatic image.

In the meantime, the 'Calvine Photograph' remains a captivating piece of UFO lore, sparking imaginations and fueling discussions about the possibility of extraterrestrial encounters and the secrets that may lie beyond our understanding.

Thanks for your support of this thread, and the information you included.

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11 hours ago, MysticQuester said:

Hey my friends

It's fascinating to revisit the intriguing case of the 'Calvine Photograph' and the ongoing mystery surrounding it, even three decades after its initial capture. The emergence of new insights and theories from experts like Russell and Holland adds another layer of complexity to the story.

The idea that the 'alien' craft depicted in the photograph could potentially be a secret military aircraft undergoing testing raises compelling questions about the intersection of military operations and public perception of UFO phenomena. The notion that the diamond-shaped ship was part of a radar-proof defense system being developed by British Aerospace adds a fascinating twist to the narrative.

While there may never be a definitive conclusion to the mystery of the 'Calvine Photograph,' the ongoing speculation and debate serve as a reminder of humanity's enduring fascination with the unknown and our relentless pursuit of answers. As technology continues to advance and new evidence comes to light, perhaps one day we will uncover the truth behind this enigmatic image.

In the meantime, the 'Calvine Photograph' remains a captivating piece of UFO lore, sparking imaginations and fueling discussions about the possibility of extraterrestrial encounters and the secrets that may lie beyond our understanding.

yes it's interesting but in my honest opinion the conclusion, if any, will be it's a fake or second best, nothing more than prosaic - personally i'll go with fake myself but hey who really knows? i don't that's for sure 😉

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I'm sorry... that's a "clear photo" of a UFO? To my eyes it looks like it could have been one of Billy Meier's photos he took of his television screen. My photo of a Mylar balloon is way better than this.

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I'm still not convinced this photograph is even real. The identities of the hikers who took the photograph seem to be more secret than whatever its shewing. 

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I'm confused here. The article shows two photographs. One is a blurry mess that looks more like a painting than a photo. Next to it is a slightly more clear and detailed but still fairly soft photo which has hills in the background. The article is talking like it's the same photo. What am I missing here?

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On 4/12/2024 at 2:52 AM, astrobeing said:

I'm confused here. The article shows two photographs. One is a blurry mess that looks more like a painting than a photo. Next to it is a slightly more clear and detailed but still fairly soft photo which has hills in the background. The article is talking like it's the same photo. What am I missing here?

Do a Google Image search on "Calvine UFO" and you'll see lots of redrawn 'artists impressions', including the one with the hills added, and completely made up 'details' added to the craft.  And there's not a single reference to the fakery, even though the point of the story was that there was just one image.  The media reports on this one SUCK.  I believe the original shows branches at top, and the top of a wire fence across the base.

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On 4/12/2024 at 9:09 PM, ChrLzs said:

Do a Google Image search on "Calvine UFO" and you'll see lots of redrawn 'artists impressions', including the one with the hills added, and completely made up 'details' added to the craft.  And there's not a single reference to the fakery, even though the point of the story was that there was just one image.  The media reports on this one SUCK.  I believe the original shows branches at top, and the top of a wire fence across the base.

Oh no. I just ranted about how much I hate that classic UFO stories, the ones I grew up with in UFO books, are being rewritten to appeal to new audiences on the Internet with new (fake) details and photoshopped images being presented as actual photos from the events.

David Clarke, the guy who claims to have found the photo (I haven't found how or where exactly) sounds like he's gone from UFO fanatic to skeptic recently.

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I think the whole thing is a fake. I believe in aliens and I don't think they are stupid enough to show us their flying ships.

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