Westall UFO witnesses are still seeking answers more than 58 years on

[the13bats]

2 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Maybe they don't have the technology to travel over vast distances in space.

We have the technology to send probes out of our Solar system Voyage 1 & 2. Those probes took off in the 1970s and we are still communicating with them today. I don't know if our probes will ever reach a distant world with life, I kind of doubt it. But as our technology improves, we are going to send more advanced probes and it's very possible a more advanced species is doing the same thing.

Like I said, I am on the fence and only time will prove me right or wrong!

Idk my take on it is if aliens were out there and could say hye they would and we wouldn't be having this discussion

[Grim Reaper 6]

Just now, the13bats said:

Idk my take on it is if aliens were out there and could say hye they would and we wouldn't be having this discussion

I hope they never do, because if they can reach us were screwed. 

Dinner time!!!

[psyche101]

12 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Idk my take on it is if aliens were out there and could say hye they would and we wouldn't be having this discussion

That's very much my opinion as well.

[the13bats]

23 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I hope they never do, because if they can reach us were screwed. 

Dinner time!!!

[Grim Reaper 6]

53 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Try it you will like it!!!!!!!

[Hazzard]

5 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Maybe they don't have the technology to travel over vast distances in space.

We have the technology to send probes out of our Solar system Voyage 1 & 2. Those probes took off in the 1970s and we are still communicating with them today. I don't know if our probes will ever reach a distant world with life, I kind of doubt it. But as our technology improves, we are going to send more advanced probes and it's very possible a more advanced species is doing the same thing.

Like I said, I am on the fence and only time will prove me right or wrong!

Speed and ETE is always the problem.

The pioneer probes will take 2 and 4 million years (!!) to get anywhere near something of interest.

But sure, in the distant future some space jockey might find them and bring them home.

[OpenMindedSceptic]

6 hours ago, the13bats said:

 

If I can sign up to get paid for what I babble on here please show me where.

I can fully understand why die had true believers might grasp that some bored nobody on a forum is a paid disinformation agent but it doesn't wash because of the zillion stories not once has any case been proven alien they have been proven explanations of balloons, swamp gas, mass hysteria, clouds, Jupiter etc,

The fact is you true believes jump to believe it's your strength no paychecks needed

Whilst you jump to 'can never be any conclusion that doesn't fit my model' without evidence AND comes onto an unexplained Mysteries website to argue that point. Unexplained, the clue is right there. Lol.

[Trelane]

No, you certainly can't jump to any conclusion. What you can do is eliminate the least likely or logical. Therefore we can eliminate extraterrestrial craft.😎

[Antigonos]

1 hour ago, Trelane said:

No, you certainly can't jump to any conclusion. What you can do is eliminate the least likely or logical. Therefore we can eliminate extraterrestrial craft.😎

But… Tesla!!!

[the13bats]

4 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Whilst you jump to 'can never be any conclusion that doesn't fit my model' without evidence AND comes onto an unexplained Mysteries website to argue that point. Unexplained, the clue is right there. Lol.

Please quote me not your typing of what you made up what I think or said.

Yep, genius the this site is about unexplained and your jumping to the most unlikely never once proven paranormal explanation will not make it so,

I'm not arguing at all if you present evidence I will be delighted to take a look at it but you never present any, your fail not mine.

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Speed and ETE is always the problem.

The pioneer probes will take 2 and 4 million years (!!) to get anywhere near something of interest.

But sure, in the distant future some space jockey might find them and bring them home.

That is what I think, nothing is going to happen soon.

Edited April 9 by Grim Reaper 6

[Golden Duck]

St Kilda FC was based at Moorabbin for decades and lasr won a Premiership in 1966.  

If ever there was a cohort of true believers, it's the folks from that district.

[ChrLzs]

13 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

St Kilda FC was based at Moorabbin for decades and lasr won a Premiership in 1966.  

If ever there was a cohort of true believers, it's the folks from that district.

I was at the 1966 premiership with my Dad, to watch them beat the Magpies by that single point.  The scoreboard is etched into my brain - it was a wonderful and gripping game.  Still devotedly support them - up the mighty Saints!

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 4/8/2024 at 9:14 PM, psyche101 said:

Your personal predetermined conclusion.

you can bet your bippy the several round depressions in the grass weren't made by this HIBAL balloon, now, cant'cha

 

 

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[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 4/8/2024 at 11:58 PM, Hazzard said:

Job done??... We have just started with this one!

And just because I dont jump on the AliEnZ bandwagon at first chance (like some people) doesnt make me a bad "investigator".

If you (and @Trelane) were a good investigator, you would catch the numerous, odious government lies about this incident. and you would at least try to reconcile 
the differences in students' claims and the government's claims.

I will eventually get around to asking you if you think that a fallen HIBAL balloon can get back up after hours on the ground, and fly away. 

[psyche101]

51 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

you can bet your bippy the several round depressions in the grass weren't made by this HIBAL balloon, now, cant'cha

 

 

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Why not? 

They didn't actually exist. So if we are talking imaginary depressions let's chuck Paul Bunyan and babe in as well as options huh? 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

28 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Why not? 

They didn't actually exist. So if we are talking imaginary depressions let's chuck Paul Bunyan and babe in as well as options huh? 

were you there?

once again you talk like you know more than the eyewitnesses. 

[the13bats]

44 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Why not? 

They didn't actually exist. So if we are talking imaginary depressions let's chuck Paul Bunyan and babe in as well as options huh? 

This is like many old moldy mundane cases suffered from decades of embellishment and made-up bs.

Let's go back to original report , the alleged depressed grass NE student who was there said looked like wind blew grass over not like a craft landed. UFO investigation found zip.

Tales of cover up like school officials telling students teachers not to talk about it was because the local paper and looky lous were disrupting learning.

In fact the original report sure fits a two part event first was a documented weather balloon then an Air Force training session towing a target,

Of course true believes would rather say it could only be aliens and I don't care if they like to avoid evidence to look silly. More power to them.

 

Edited April 11 by the13bats

[psyche101]

34 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

were you there?

Were you?

34 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

once again you talk like you know more than the eyewitnesses. 

Once again you cherry pick some unsupported aspect and carry on as if it's a verified component regardless of other evidence. 

You start with a conclusion and then seek evidence to support it. And you have done it again here.

Nobody saw anything on the ground. Post incident investigation allegedly found a flattened patch of grass away from the school and assumed it was connected. Upon return it wasn't there and some claimed the grass was destroyed by fire.

If it was actually intriguing and actually did exist there would be a photograph. That's what you do with evidence tight? Where is it?

Read the descriptions again. Show me which one saw a grounded craft. 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

14 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Were you?

I don't have to be there if I rely on witnesses and other evidence.

 

14 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

Once again you cherry pick some unsupported aspect and carry on as if it's a verified component regardless of other evidence. 

You start with a conclusion and then seek evidence to support it. And you have done it again here.

Nobody saw anything on the ground. Post incident investigation allegedly found a flattened patch of grass away from the school and assumed it was connected. Upon return it wasn't there and some claimed the grass was destroyed by fire.

If it was actually intriguing and actually did exist there would be a photograph. That's what you do with evidence tight? Where is it?

Read the descriptions again. Show me which one saw a grounded craft. 

why don't you show me where a hi-altitude ballon falls to the ground, and then gets and flies away. and,,, there was no balloon

 

[psyche101]

41 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I don't have to be there if I rely on witnesses and other evidence.

But your not. You're jumping to conclusions. 

Like I say. It was allegedly there for two days. If it existed, the importance would be high and pictures would exist 

Post one to settle the debate.

41 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

why don't you show me where a hi-altitude ballon falls to the ground, and then gets and flies away. and,,, there was no balloon

Why. There was two incidents. I've already pointed that out to you but you've ignored it. They aren't both considered to be hibal balloons. If you were as across the incident as you pretend you are you would know this. 

Are you suggesting both incidents were balloons and is so who put that hypothesis forward other than you?  

Edited April 11 by psyche101

[Golden Duck]

7 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I don't have to be there if I rely on witnesses and other evidence.

 

why don't you show me where a hi-altitude ballon falls to the ground, and then gets and flies away. and,,, there was no balloon

 

Why don't you show us all 200 of the witness statements you claim to on?

I know why you won't produce a brass razoo.

Edited April 11 by Golden Duck

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

17 hours ago, psyche101 said:

But your not. You're jumping to conclusions. 

Like I say. It was allegedly there for two days. If it existed, the importance would be high and pictures would exist 

*what* was there for 2 days. link it please.

 

17 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Post one to settle the debate.

Why. There was two incidents. I've already pointed that out to you but you've ignored it. They aren't both considered to be hibal balloons. If you were as across the incident as you pretend you are you would know this. 

Are you suggesting both incidents were balloons and is so who put that hypothesis forward other than you?  

I have no odea what you are onto now. what pictures? who had cameras??? 

supply a link

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

Here is what children saw: 

 

 

 

Here's what big gov says:   

 

 

The prosecution rests, with the government alibi debunked and destroyed. 

 

 

 

[psyche101]

15 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Here is what children saw: 

No.

The object was in view for up to 20 minutes, and many saw it descend. Most agree it landed behind pine trees at the Grange Reserve. Dozens of students ran across what was then an open paddock to the reserve to investigate, but the object had lifted off and vanished.

 

Go and find two hundred accounts that refute the claims. 

There are no accounts that describe the illustration you have posted .

15 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

 

 

Here's what big gov says:   

 

 

The prosecution rests, with the government alibi debunked and destroyed. 

Nothing is debunked. You don't even have the first part of the story right as shown above and you don't acknowledge two events. 

You lose. You are making it up as you go along.