Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 8 #1 Share Posted April 8 Donald Trump has used yet another violent crime victim to boost his presidential campaign. Trump has faced backlash since Tuesday for invoking the name of Ruby Garcia, a woman allegedly killed by an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, and for lying about having spoken to her family. This is par for the course for Trump, whose public foray into politics arguably began in 1989, when he pushed for the death penalty for five Black and Latino youths — who came to be known as the “Central Park Five” — after they were (wrongfully) accused of attacking a white woman in Central Park (the five men were later exonerated). Trump’s history of politicizing murders is outrageous — and par for the course (msn.com) 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted April 8 #2 Share Posted April 8 Like the left doesn't use every murder to push their agenda when it suits them? By the way, the Central Park Five were definitely guilty. But lets not let actual case facts get in the way of perverting justice system for politics. Not going to argue it, but definitely go look up the case and much like George Floyd, et al you'll see things aren't as they are portrayed. 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 8 Author #3 Share Posted April 8 Just now, Edumakated said: Like the left doesn't use every murder to push their agenda when it suits them? The difference is that Trump is liar, and even when he is aware the individuals are not guilty, he continues to push a totally false narrative. Just now, Edumakated said: By the way, the Central Park Five were definitely guilty. But lets not let actual case facts get in the way of perverting justice system for politics. Do you have a source that agrees with your comments, because if you can't one post one your only offering a bias opinion, now would never do that right!!!!!!!! Just now, Edumakated said: Not going to argue it, but definitely go look up the case and much like George Floyd, et al you'll see things aren't as they are portrayed. I don't need to look up either, I happen to be familiar with both cases, obvious much more so than you!! Peace Sparky!!!!! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted April 8 #4 Share Posted April 8 33 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: The difference is that Trump is liar, and even when he is aware the individuals are not guilty, he continues to push a totally false narrative. Do you have a source that agrees with your comments, because if you can't one post one your only offering a bias opinion, now would never do that right!!!!!!!! I don't need to look up either, I happen to be familiar with both cases, obvious much more so than you!! Peace Sparky!!!!! Netflix’s False Story of the Central Park Five - WSJ To summarize, what is often left out is that there was a mass riot / wilding going on in Central Park at the time. Something like 30 kids were arrested for robbing and beating up people in Central Park that night. While it is true that someone confessed to the sexual assault of the young lady, the CP5 were still very likely involved in her beating. The theory is that after the girl was beat, the rapist came along and took advantage of the situation. Donald Trump Isn’t Alone in Believing ‘Central Park Five’ Are Guilty | Law & Crime (lawandcrime.com) In 2002, Matias Reyes, a convicted serial rapist and killer, confessed to the attack, saying he acted alone. DNA evidence — still new at the time of the initial trial — confirmed Reyes’ involvement... However, Trump isn’t the only one who wasn’t entirely convinced that Reyes acted alone. A panel of three attorneys commissioned by the NYPD in 2003 believed that the Central Park Five were most likely involved in the attack, just not the rape. “Our examination of the facts leads us to suggest that there is an alternative theory of the attack upon the jogger, that both the defendants and Reyes assaulted her, perhaps successively,” the lawyers wrote in their report, according to a New York Times article. They described their theory, saying that the Central Park Five attacked the woman first, and that “Mr. Reyes, drawn by her screams, either joined in the attack as it was ending or waited until the defendants had moved on to their next victims before descending upon her himself, raping her and inflicting upon her the brutal injuries that almost caused her death.” Regardless... much like St. Floyd ODing on Fentynal, most of the public won't take the time to actually look at the facts. The agenda and ideology is more important than the truth. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted April 8 #5 Share Posted April 8 Didn't BOM claim he could shoot a person in cold blood on the street and not loose a single worshipper? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 8 #6 Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Edumakated said: Netflix’s False Story of the Central Park Five - WSJ To summarize, what is often left out is that there was a mass riot / wilding going on in Central Park at the time. Something like 30 kids were arrested for robbing and beating up people in Central Park that night. While it is true that someone confessed to the sexual assault of the young lady, the CP5 were still very likely involved in her beating. The theory is that after the girl was beat, the rapist came along and took advantage of the situation. Donald Trump Isn’t Alone in Believing ‘Central Park Five’ Are Guilty | Law & Crime (lawandcrime.com) In 2002, Matias Reyes, a convicted serial rapist and killer, confessed to the attack, saying he acted alone. DNA evidence — still new at the time of the initial trial — confirmed Reyes’ involvement... However, Trump isn’t the only one who wasn’t entirely convinced that Reyes acted alone. A panel of three attorneys commissioned by the NYPD in 2003 believed that the Central Park Five were most likely involved in the attack, just not the rape. “Our examination of the facts leads us to suggest that there is an alternative theory of the attack upon the jogger, that both the defendants and Reyes assaulted her, perhaps successively,” the lawyers wrote in their report, according to a New York Times article. They described their theory, saying that the Central Park Five attacked the woman first, and that “Mr. Reyes, drawn by her screams, either joined in the attack as it was ending or waited until the defendants had moved on to their next victims before descending upon her himself, raping her and inflicting upon her the brutal injuries that almost caused her death.” Regardless... much like St. Floyd ODing on Fentynal, most of the public won't take the time to actually look at the facts. The agenda and ideology is more important than the truth. Tell it to the courts My son hunter didn't convince anyone either. It's for the choir. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertdoggy Posted April 8 #7 Share Posted April 8 Biden literally lies about how his family members have died for political reasons so I think it is best to ignore your complete nonsense. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gertdoggy Posted April 8 #8 Share Posted April 8 54 minutes ago, the13bats said: Didn't BOM claim he could shoot a person in cold blood on the street and not loose a single worshipper? You never heard of hyperbole? For the love of god this is a sad thread. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 8 #9 Share Posted April 8 9 minutes ago, Gertdoggy said: Biden literally lies about how his family members have died for political reasons so I think it is best to ignore your complete nonsense. Dying in a hospital from brain cancer isn't a murder. So it's probably best to ignore your complete nonsense. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 8 #10 Share Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, Gertdoggy said: You never heard of hyperbole? For the love of god this is a sad thread. I wonder if someone said it to you if it would be hyperbole? I doubt it somehow. I don't think it's a far fetched statement given the absolute nutters following him around standing in streets armed or heading into the FBI with a nail gun. The people who support him aren't the nation's thinkers. I reckon if only Maga people were witnesses, he would indeed get away with it. Maga is soft on corporate crime. And Maga followers drop ethics like a hot potato when Trump's in front of them. He can screw, lie and cheat and get cheered for it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted April 8 #11 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Gertdoggy said: Biden literally lies about how his family members have died for political reasons so I think it is best to ignore your complete nonsense. Waiting for accredited published documents supporting your babblngs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted April 8 #12 Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Gertdoggy said: You never heard of hyperbole? For the love of god this is a sad thread. Um, sure I've heard the term and seen it's sad use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted April 8 #13 Share Posted April 8 5 hours ago, the13bats said: Waiting for accredited published documents supporting your babblngs. Considering Biden has to drop out of his first Presidential run in 80s for lying about his academic record and he is has claimed his son Beau died in Iraq on multiple occasions, I think you need to broaden your choice of news outlets if you weren't aware. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted April 8 #14 Share Posted April 8 8 hours ago, psyche101 said: Tell it to the courts My son hunter didn't convince anyone either. It's for the choir. Courts are not infallible when under extreme political pressure and bias. History is littered with cases of bad court decisions. If you think courts are perfect, then you should have been ok with the original conviction, no? Courts can wrongly convict, just as they can wrongly choose not to... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 8 #15 Share Posted April 8 8 hours ago, Gertdoggy said: You never heard of hyperbole? For the love of god this is a sad thread. You'll become accustomed to those with a certain crowd here. We have a special member or two that focus obsessively on all things Trump. It's easiest to ignore them or at a minimum, remember that they take every word he says with the most evil, corrupt, or insane meaning that media can create for it. Welcome to UM. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 8 #16 Share Posted April 8 12 hours ago, Edumakated said: Like the left doesn't use every murder to push their agenda when it suits them? They start pushing gun control before the bodies are cold. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted April 8 #17 Share Posted April 8 49 minutes ago, Michelle said: They start pushing gun control before the bodies are cold. That's true. The best time to push gun control is when the bodies are warm and alive. It's a bit too late and pointless to do it when they are dead and cold. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 8 #18 Share Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, Gromdor said: That's true. The best time to push gun control is when the bodies are warm and alive. It's a bit too late and pointless to do it when they are dead and cold. You aren't familiar with that saying are you? They are already dead, but politicians bring up gun control before the body is cold. Yes, it's pointless. Especially in cities where guns are basically illegal, they let criminals go 20 or 30 times without bail while their crimes get more often and bolder. The illegal immigrants that beat up the cop are already out without bail and it's only going to get worse if they don't get serious about crime in these liberal cities. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted April 8 #19 Share Posted April 8 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Michelle said: You aren't familiar with that saying are you? They are already dead, but politicians bring up gun control before the body is cold. Yes, it's pointless. Especially in cities where guns are basically illegal, they let criminals go 20 or 30 times without bail while their crimes get more often and bolder. The illegal immigrants that beat up the cop are already out without bail and it's only going to get worse if they don't get serious about crime in these liberal cities. There's always gang killings in major cities like Chicago and innocent bystanders get caught in the crossfire. So, instead of cracking down on these gangs. The mayor of Chicago pleads with the gangs to not shoot between 9am to 9pm. Edited April 8 by Hawken 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra3 Posted April 8 #20 Share Posted April 8 12 minutes ago, Hawken said: There's always gang killings in major cities like Chicago and innocent bystanders get caught in the crossfire. So, instead of cracking down on these gangs. The mayor of Chicago pleads with the gangs to not shoot between 9am to 9pm. Well, that's just makes liberal-common sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted April 8 #21 Share Posted April 8 17 hours ago, Edumakated said: Netflix’s False Story of the Central Park Five - WSJ To summarize, what is often left out is that there was a mass riot / wilding going on in Central Park at the time. Something like 30 kids were arrested for robbing and beating up people in Central Park that night. While it is true that someone confessed to the sexual assault of the young lady, the CP5 were still very likely involved in her beating. The theory is that after the girl was beat, the rapist came along and took advantage of the situation. Donald Trump Isn’t Alone in Believing ‘Central Park Five’ Are Guilty | Law & Crime (lawandcrime.com) In 2002, Matias Reyes, a convicted serial rapist and killer, confessed to the attack, saying he acted alone. DNA evidence — still new at the time of the initial trial — confirmed Reyes’ involvement... However, Trump isn’t the only one who wasn’t entirely convinced that Reyes acted alone. A panel of three attorneys commissioned by the NYPD in 2003 believed that the Central Park Five were most likely involved in the attack, just not the rape. “Our examination of the facts leads us to suggest that there is an alternative theory of the attack upon the jogger, that both the defendants and Reyes assaulted her, perhaps successively,” the lawyers wrote in their report, according to a New York Times article. They described their theory, saying that the Central Park Five attacked the woman first, and that “Mr. Reyes, drawn by her screams, either joined in the attack as it was ending or waited until the defendants had moved on to their next victims before descending upon her himself, raping her and inflicting upon her the brutal injuries that almost caused her death.” Regardless... much like St. Floyd ODing on Fentynal, most of the public won't take the time to actually look at the facts. The agenda and ideology is more important than the truth. I don't know where you get your news, but it was Derek Chauvin that was definitely guilty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edumakated Posted April 8 #22 Share Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Golden Duck said: I don't know where you get your news, but it was Derek Chauvin that was definitely guilty. Not really but I don't expect you take steps to inform yourself on the actual evidence in the trial. It was a political prosecution to keep the inmates from burning down Minneapolis. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted April 8 #23 Share Posted April 8 37 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Not really but I don't expect you take steps to inform yourself on the actual evidence in the trial. It was a political prosecution to keep the inmates from burning down Minneapolis. Inform us, what's the remedy for a political conviction in the USA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 8 Author #24 Share Posted April 8 41 minutes ago, Edumakated said: Not really but I don't expect you take steps to inform yourself on the actual evidence in the trial. It was a political prosecution to keep the inmates from burning down Minneapolis. You take this advice yourself and stop relying on Social Truth for you information!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted April 8 Author #25 Share Posted April 8 4 hours ago, Michelle said: You aren't familiar with that saying are you? They are already dead, but politicians bring up gun control before the body is cold. Yes, it's pointless. Especially in cities where guns are basically illegal, they let criminals go 20 or 30 times without bail while their crimes get more often and bolder. The illegal immigrants that beat up the cop are already out without bail and it's only going to get worse if they don't get serious about crime in these liberal cities. I love to see a source for that!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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