10-page UFO dossier released by Australia's Department of Defence

[Golden Duck]

2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

No, it’s a perfectly valid department … somewhere. There’ll be a perfectly valid sounding paper trail…. Just using “departmental shorthand”. “We recovered a wounded osprey” or “repaired damaged photocopier” rather than “recovered a downed craft from Zeta Ridiculi”, that sort of thing. 

The Government can't even hide Sports Rorts from its own auditor. But, the RAAF is going to say "No, we don't need any extra money to spend on something that has never produced anything and would not be tied to any KPIS."

Maybe it's suspicious to not be seeking extra funds. Maybe it's reasonable not wanting manage unnecessary assets.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

The Government can't even hide Sports Rorts from its own auditor. But, the RAAF is going to say "No, we don't need any extra money to spend on something that has never produced anything and would not be tied to any KPIS."

Maybe it's suspicious to not be seeking extra funds. Maybe it's reasonable not wanting manage unnecessary assets.

That was because Scotty from Marketing was a maroon. We’re talking bout actually competent civil servants and people trained in misdirection rather than a smug pillock and his cohort of poltroons. 

[Golden Duck]

10 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

That was because Scotty from Marketing was a maroon. We’re talking bout actually competent civil servants and people trained in misdirection rather than a smug pillock and his cohort of poltroons. 

Maurie Scottnomates is neither a Queenslander or a descendant of escaped African convicts.

Competent career minded  servants won't want to spend time in a role where you will not be able collect achievements for their resume.

This is where the careers of officers, both public and military, die.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

23 hours ago, Dejarma said:

who told you this happened?

sorry, I'm not entertaining other possible debate points. please see Wiki

[Trelane]

On 4/12/2024 at 9:38 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Ya, right. why don't you address the issue at hand

 

Hey, y;all are the ones deviating from the topic, not me. 

So, what was the object that descended from the sky, and where did it go? 

Wrong thread earl. Go touch grass.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

Holy Cow.

[Montello]

aliens coming from deep space every day

[Hazzard]

1 hour ago, Montello said:

aliens coming from deep space every day

They told you this?

[Antigonos]

4 hours ago, Montello said:

aliens coming from deep space every day

Is this the start of a poem?

[Trelane]

4 hours ago, Montello said:

aliens coming from deep space every day

... flashing colorful lights making people say....

[Trelane]

16 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Is this the start of a poem?

Challenge accepted!

[Antigonos]

20 minutes ago, Trelane said:

... flashing colorful lights making people say....

Hail and well met, friends, who to our globe come a flyin’

Tell us what interstellar news you bring  from Orion!

Edited April 16 by Antigonos

[Hankenhunter]

On 4/10/2024 at 8:24 PM, Golden Duck said:

Did you know there was a guy who did a belly flop off top tower (the 10 metre diving platform) and split his guts open?

This is just one of the schoolyard legends that perpetually spreads seemingly across the entire country.  A cohort of school students are not the mythical trained observers typically exalted by true believers.  Were talking about the gullible and inexperienced still developing critical tbinking skills. 

Strawman

[Golden Duck]

2 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Strawman

Analogy is the word you're looking for.

You're welcome.

[ChrLzs]

On 4/16/2024 at 6:01 PM, Montello said:

aliens coming from deep space every day

with extra supply ships, their food was trucked

[ChrLzs]

BTW, a person making a big thing out of '25' being some magically accurate and applicable lower limit number for statistical analysis, and then hilariously applying it to a largely subjective count of events....  Well, let's just say they might want to find a different hobby.  Science is not for them.

 

I am reminded, sadly, of a similar statistical analysis (I may link to it in the SETI or Skyeagle threads soon...).  It was produced by someone using statistics and bell-curves to claim he had worked out an average velocity. 🤮  Unsurprisingly it was completely invalid, and to top it off, there were only a tiny number of data points which were a. witness estimations, and b. not provided.  Seriously, if you are not properly trained and have no idea how to analyse stuff and when statistics are applicable .. you need to step away from the workbench, and take off your white coat (or exchange it for a different style).

 

 

GIGO. 

[Golden Duck]

7 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

BTW, a person making a big thing out of '25' being some magically accurate and applicable lower limit number for statistical analysis, and then hilariously applying it to a largely subjective count of events....  Well, let's just say they might want to find a different hobby.  Science is not for them.

 

I am reminded, sadly, of a similar statistical analysis (I may link to it in the SETI or Skyeagle threads soon...).  It was produced by someone using statistics and bell-curves to claim he had worked out an average velocity. 🤮  Unsurprisingly it was completely invalid, and to top it off, there were only a tiny number of data points which were a. witness estimations, and b. not provided.  Seriously, if you are not properly trained and have no idea how to analyse stuff and when statistics are applicable .. you need to step away from the workbench, and take off your white coat (or exchange it for a different style).

 

 

GIGO. 

I suppose you could generate a bell curve from vector sums.  But, we're talking about completely different quantities.

[+joc]

No Troll

aliens coming from deep space every day

... flashing colorful lights making people say....

Hail and well met, friends, who to our globe come a flyin’

Tell us what interstellar news you bring  from Orion!

with extra supply ships, their food was trucked

The wormhole collapsed, and their luck seemed %$#&...all messed up...

[CrimsonKing]

15 minutes ago, joc said:

No Troll

aliens coming from deep space every day

... flashing colorful lights making people say....

Hail and well met, friends, who to our globe come a flyin’

Tell us what interstellar news you bring  from Orion!

with extra supply ships, their food was trucked

The wormhole collapsed, and their luck seemed %$#&...all messed up...

I like it 👍 😆