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I’ve Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here’s How We Lost America’s Trust


OverSword

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Well, at this point all of Uri's concerns can be dismissed as those of a disgruntled former employee. Convenient. Kidding, of course.

I think his concerns about audience political identification result from a mix of column A, NPR adopting a more liberal tone, and column B, the two way movement of that former conservative audience both rightward and leftward.

I used to listen to NPR as an alarm clock. I'd get up when I'd finally get fed up some aspect of the coverage and slap it off.

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22 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Well, at this point all of Uri's concerns can be dismissed as those of a disgruntled former employee. Convenient. Kidding, of course.

I think his concerns about audience political identification result from a mix of column A, NPR adopting a more liberal tone, and column B, the two way movement of that former conservative audience both rightward and leftward.

I used to listen to NPR as an alarm clock. I'd get up when I'd finally get fed up some aspect of the coverage and slap it off.

I used to listen to NPR at work all the time in the 90's and early 2k's and loved it.  They have always been very liberal so to adapt an even more liberal tone is to become completely one sided/biased.

side note:  Remember Car Talk?

 

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11 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I used to listen to NPR at work all the time in the 90's and early 2k's and loved it.  They have always been very liberal so to adapt an even more liberal tone is to become completely one sided/biased.

That corresponds roughly with when I started listening, although I wouldn't say that I was tuned to Media at that point because of my age. 

If I went into work with my dad, we'd listen to NPR in the way in the morning and Rush Limbaugh on the way out in the afternoon. The mind boggles, eh.

I think NPR maintains a pretty consistent liberal centrist positioning in general. I don't think that Uri complaining that NPR didn't proclaim that COVID was a Chinese super weapon intentionally leaked from their labs is a good argument against that, for instance. Just tells me he's not that smart. Not enough education at the EIB network, like me.

11 minutes ago, OverSword said:

side note:  Remember Car Talk?

 

Yeah, I quite enjoyed Car Talk. I think the replacement on my station has been some god-awful "pop culture" dreck. We need the next Tappet Brothers to save NPR.

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5 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

I don't think that Uri complaining that NPR didn't proclaim that COVID was a Chinese super weapon intentionally leaked from their labs is a good argument against that, for instance. Just tells me he's not that smart.

That is a very dishonest assessment of what he said and I'm going to guess the guy is very intelligent.

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3 minutes ago, OverSword said:

That is a very dishonest assessment of what he said and I'm going to guess the guy is very intelligent.

No. He decided to complain about the coverage of the "lab leak" idea. Now, the forms that "lab leak" can take range from the somewhat laughable one that I just said, to more reasonable ones. In fact, it's the perfect motte-and-bailey. If Uri is getting fooled by that aspect, or using it himself, he's not that smart. If Uri is ignorant of the full range of idiocy peddled under the banner of the ideas whose coverage he's championing, he's also not that smart.

If NPR has proclaimed the idea I laid out in post #28, they would definitely be producing more ideologically-diverse coverage of COVID origins. Looks like the libs are scared of the truth!

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Also probably worth noting that the brainy Uri decided that NPR only became ideologically unmoored from America at large "in recent years".

Sounds like our own brain-trust finds fault with that assessment. 

Who is right here?

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1 minute ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

No. He decided to complain about the coverage of the "lab leak" idea. Now, the forms that "lab leak" can take range from the somewhat laughable one that I just said, to more reasonable ones. In fact, it's the perfect motte-and-bailey. If Uri is getting fooled by that aspect, or using it himself, he's not that smart. If Uri is ignorant of the full range of idiocy peddled under the banner of the ideas whose coverage he's championing, he's also not that smart.

If NPR has proclaimed the idea I laid out in post #28, they would definitely be producing more ideologically-diverse coverage of COVID origins. Looks like the libs are scared of the truth!

No.  He gave that as one among many examples of the ideological bent that NPR has been operating under with their too biased reporting

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28 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Also probably worth noting that the brainy Uri decided that NPR only became ideologically unmoored from America at large "in recent years".

Sounds like our own brain-trust finds fault with that assessment. 

Who is right here?

Recent possibly being a relative number after being employed there 25 years.  

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Just now, OverSword said:

Recent possibly being a relative number after being employed there 25 years.  

Well, it post-dates 2011, based on his article. You read it, right?

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3 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Well, it post-dates 2011, based on his article. You read it, right?

I read it last week and not sure what post dates 2011.

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2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I read it last week and not sure what post dates 2011.

The ideological unmooring of NPR from the common clay of the new West. You know, the thing we're discussing the timing of.

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In recent years, however, that has changed. Today, those who listen to NPR or read its coverage online find something different: the distilled worldview of a very small segment of the U.S. population. 

If you are conservative, you will read this and say, duh, it’s always been this way.

But it hasn’t.

...Back in 2011, although NPR’s audience tilted a bit to the left, it still bore a resemblance to America at large.

There you go. Enjoy.

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13 minutes ago, OverSword said:

No. 

Well, I'm glad you agree libs aren't scared of the truth.

13 minutes ago, OverSword said:

He gave that as one among many examples of the ideological bent that NPR has been operating under with their too biased reporting

And we could conduct a similar analysis of his other examples.

NPR didn't breathlessly cover The Crackhead's laptop? Well, they also didn't cover much about the Russian agent, now in FBI custody, who was allegedly promulgating other false claims (which you slurped up and broadcasted on here). I tend to think being a little cautious is better than running face first into looking stupid. Your mileage may vary.

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When the essential facts of the Post’s reporting were confirmed and the emails verified independently about a year and a half later, we could have fessed up to our misjudgment. But, like Russia collusion, we didn’t make the hard choice of transparency. 

I find stories like this from NPR to be indicative of self reflection. But Uri must have missed them.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/09/1091859822/more-details-emerge-in-federal-investigation-into-hunter-biden

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58 minutes ago, Doc Socks Junior said:

Well, I'm glad you agree libs aren't scared of the truth.

And we could conduct a similar analysis of his other examples.

NPR didn't breathlessly cover The Crackhead's laptop? Well, they also didn't cover much about the Russian agent, now in FBI custody, who was allegedly promulgating other false claims (which you slurped up and broadcasted on here). I tend to think being a little cautious is better than running face first into looking stupid. Your mileage may vary.

I find stories like this from NPR to be indicative of self reflection. But Uri must have missed them.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/09/1091859822/more-details-emerge-in-federal-investigation-into-hunter-biden

He never claimed there was no redeeming NPR or that it had no value.  He just said that it had taken a turn and now represented only the viewpoint of a very narrow swath of America and that it needed some reformation in it's methodology to be more inclusive or representative.

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