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Alex_Rogan

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I've been mulling over a story concept that I intend to flesh out eventually. Here's the gist of it:

Two people.

One a believer in the paranormal of the unknown, the other a staunch skeptic.

The believer has had an experience and shares their understanding/belief of the experience with their counterpart, who counters it with logic, reason, and disbelief.

The plot conflict is belief versus disbelief.

The nonbeliever, who never experienced anything unexplainable, eventually wears down their believer counterpart into nonbelief.

Then the original nonbeliever experiences something unexplainable and reaches out to their counterpart, who once believed and was convinced that it is all nonsense.

The nonbeliever desperately seeks help in understanding, but their counterpart has become a staunch skeptic - calling such notions foolish and illogical.

Roles reversed.

Then I'd tie it together in a dark and grim Lovecraftian conclusion.

The End.

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21 hours ago, Alex_Rogan said:

The believer has had an experience and shares their understanding/belief of the experience with their counterpart, who counters it with logic, reason, and disbelief has no belief.

Fixed!  Because:  belief and disbelief are the same thing.  If you want I can extrapolate on why that is true.  But it is kind of self evident if you think about it. B)  Great story line though!

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On 4/12/2024 at 7:23 PM, joc said:

Fixed!  Because:  belief and disbelief are the same thing.  If you want I can extrapolate on why that is true.  But it is kind of self evident if you think about it. B)  Great story line though!

I appreciate the compliment on the story idea. Thank you.

I was working on a lengthy response in a request for you to extrapolate, but decided not to follow through. It got me thinking about deeper ways to consider the concept, which is great inspiration.

Feel free to extrapolate, though I suspect it was a bit tongue in cheek.

Thanks again. I really do appreciate the feedback. 

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6 hours ago, Alex_Rogan said:

I appreciate the compliment on the story idea. Thank you.

I was working on a lengthy response in a request for you to extrapolate, but decided not to follow through. It got me thinking about deeper ways to consider the concept, which is great inspiration.

Feel free to extrapolate, though I suspect it was a bit tongue in cheek.

Thanks again. I really do appreciate the feedback. 

That's okay...I don't even know where I was going with that really!  ^_^

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On 4/11/2024 at 9:43 PM, Alex_Rogan said:

Then I'd tie it together in a dark and grim Lovecraftian conclusion.

 

In which they are both lovingly crushed by the tentacles of a great old one reaching through a dimensional rift? :D

 

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On 4/12/2024 at 2:43 PM, Alex_Rogan said:

I've been mulling over a story concept that I intend to flesh out eventually. Here's the gist of it:

Two people.

One a believer in the paranormal of the unknown, the other a staunch skeptic.

The believer has had an experience and shares their understanding/belief of the experience with their counterpart, who counters it with logic, reason, and disbelief.

The plot conflict is belief versus disbelief.

The nonbeliever, who never experienced anything unexplainable, eventually wears down their believer counterpart into nonbelief.

Then the original nonbeliever experiences something unexplainable and reaches out to their counterpart, who once believed and was convinced that it is all nonsense.

The nonbeliever desperately seeks help in understanding, but their counterpart has become a staunch skeptic - calling such notions foolish and illogical.

Roles reversed.

Then I'd tie it together in a dark and grim Lovecraftian conclusion.

The End.

Wasn't that called the X files?

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On 4/17/2024 at 10:25 PM, Alchopwn said:

Wasn't that called the X files?

I really hadn't considered that take on it. That's funny.

I can see the similar character dynamics played in the X-Files, but that's not what I'm going for, so to speak. 

I gotta thank you for giving me a chuckle and a 'heads up' for a derivative pitfall to avoid.

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On 4/17/2024 at 11:21 AM, OverSword said:

In which they are both lovingly crushed by the tentacles of a great old one reaching through a dimensional rift? :D

 

perhaps? That's darkly and oddly endearing. Good one.

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3 minutes ago, Alex_Rogan said:

I really hadn't considered that take on it. That's funny.

I can see the similar character dynamics played in the X-Files, but that's not what I'm going for, so to speak. 

I gotta thank you for giving me a chuckle and a 'heads up' for a derivative pitfall to avoid.

I'm glad you're taking the comment the way I intended.  I was reading your idea and thinking "Wait...  That's frikkin' Mulder and Scully !"

As a writer myself, may I suggest that one way to make it as un-X files are possible is to include potentially an observer character (stand-in for the reader's perspective) who is taking in what the skeptic and believer are saying and trying to keep them from becoming vociferously antagonistic so that the job they are trying to do gets done.  The observer character can act as narrator in places.  You can also potentially include a polite but lazy Gen Z Jobsworth computer specialist who mainly sleeps in the truck, handles the electronics, and is blipping away at a computer game when he isn't watching Tucker Carlson, and is utterly apathetic about everything but getting paid.  This last one is based on every university student I have ever met.

But yes, avoid that derivative pitfall.  

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@Alchopwn

Great stuff. Inspiring.

It gives me some more Lovecraft ideas, and I wouldn't be ashamed of being derivative of it. 

Main characters narrative into the depths of madness, while grappling with a polarity shift in beliefs.... especially after convincing the counterpart to discard all hope of understanding and knowledge that might have saved them from ultimate doom. Despair and frustration.

 

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I do like the idea of an "outside observer". That's interesting. Brilliant dynamic. I'm just a dork trying to write simple stuff that I'd like to read. I'm trying to pare it down to minimal, like a short story... but if I like the characters that emerge then maybe novella at best.

By the way, great to meet another writer. It's alot of fun, isn't it?

Thanks again for the feedback. Extremely appreciated.

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