Alchopwn Posted April 19 #326 Share Posted April 19 Wise men say, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.So too, people who lack missile defenses, shouldn't launch missile barrages. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted April 19 Author #327 Share Posted April 19 Mini drones shot down by air defenses in Isfahan were flown by “infiltrators from inside Iran,” an Iranian analyst tells State TV, after sources say Israel launched an attack on Iranian soil. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/mini-drones-were-flown-by-infiltrators-inside-iran-analyst-tells-state-tv/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #328 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, susieice said: FOX is calling it a limited strike. Israel strikes site in Iran in retaliation for weekend assault: source | Fox News More like a limited yawn. No damage to Israel and no damage done to Iran. This incident, just reinforces my belief wars between two nations are not spontaneous. They are planned by the big players, the actors chosen, the allies and alliances square off and the outcome scripted to effect a real politik conclusion where all major players benefit or the dispute pit on ice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 19 #329 Share Posted April 19 https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel-strikes-site-iran-retaliation-weekend-assault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted April 19 #330 Share Posted April 19 (edited) They never learned to turn the other cheek. Quote Matthew 5:38-40 (New International Version) 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. Edited April 19 by Ell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 19 #331 Share Posted April 19 (edited) Fox News confirmed there have been explosions in Iran's Isfahan province, which is where Natanz, one of Iran's nuclear facilities, is located. They both are trying to hit each others nuclear plants ? Edited April 19 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #332 Share Posted April 19 Largely ineffective Israeli strike. In retrospect Netanyahu should have listened to Biden and Blinken and not retaliated. Israel lost many cruise missiles that fell short in Iraq and are now in the hands of Iran, Irans nuclear program is intact and Israeli attacks were basically micro drones launched from within Iran. Now Israel looks weak and vulnerable and Netanyahu is on his way out 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted April 19 Author #333 Share Posted April 19 Iran says no retaliation planned, as both sides seek distance from Isfahan attack Iran has no plan for immediate retaliation against Israel, a senior Iranian official said Friday, as officials in Jerusalem indicated that an alleged drone attack on a city south of Tehran was meant to send a signal rather than cause damage. The official also cast doubt on whether Israel was behind the attack in Isfahan, despite comments from some Israeli politicians practically accepting responsibility. https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-no-retaliation-planned-as-both-sides-seek-distance-from-isfahan-attack/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 19 #334 Share Posted April 19 Video shows flashes in sky near location where Israel struck https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/04/19/israel-strike-inside-iran-video-ctm-vpx.cnn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #335 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said: Iran says no retaliation planned, as both sides seek distance from Isfahan attack Iran has no plan for immediate retaliation against Israel, a senior Iranian official said Friday, as officials in Jerusalem indicated that an alleged drone attack on a city south of Tehran was meant to send a signal rather than cause damage. The official also cast doubt on whether Israel was behind the attack in Isfahan, despite comments from some Israeli politicians practically accepting responsibility. https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-no-retaliation-planned-as-both-sides-seek-distance-from-isfahan-attack/ Why would Iran? Israeli’s lukewarm response was punishment enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1200 Posted April 19 #336 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Largely ineffective Israeli strike. In retrospect Netanyahu should have listened to Biden and Blinken and not retaliated. Israel lost many cruise missiles that fell short in Iraq and are now in the hands of Iran, Irans nuclear program is intact and Israeli attacks were basically micro drones launched from within Iran. Now Israel looks weak and vulnerable and Netanyahu is on his way out Do you know if any of that is true? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 19 #337 Share Posted April 19 6 hours ago, Ell said: They never learned to turn the other cheek. That seems to be a belief of Christianity, not Judaism. Jews in that region subscribe to the "if someone will rise to kill you, KILL THEM FIRST" outlook. You can't survive next to Arabs unless you do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 19 #338 Share Posted April 19 Just now, and-then said: That seems to be a belief of Christianity, not Judaism. Jews in that region subscribe to the "if someone will rise to kill you, KILL THEM FIRST" outlook. You can't survive next to Arabs unless you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 19 #339 Share Posted April 19 49 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Why would Iran? Israeli’s lukewarm response was punishment enough Lukewarm? Yeah, it has the appearance of a weak effort but let's keep an eye on Rafah, shall we? Hamas, Hizballah, the Houthis, and a few others are ALL attack dogs that are armed and trained by Iran and Iran is about to lose Hamas as an organized entity. Rafah is about to be crushed and after that you'll be on here claiming Hamas victories just because they can carry on an insurgency. Hamas lost last night and Rafah residents need to get busy moving to anywhere else... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 19 #340 Share Posted April 19 53 minutes ago, Unusual Tournament said: Why would Iran? Israeli’s lukewarm response was punishment enough Why? Maybe because the top leaders were running their mouths very energetically, as late as a few hours prior to the explosions claiming an Iranian response would be within "seconds" and would be "massive and severe"? Rumors are that DC talked both parties into stepping back. Israel loses face with a weak strike and Iran loses face by making claims then walking away. The ACTUAL win will come when Israel rolls into Rafah. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #341 Share Posted April 19 17 minutes ago, and-then said: Lukewarm? Yeah, it has the appearance of a weak effort but let's keep an eye on Rafah, shall we? Hamas, Hizballah, the Houthis, and a few others are ALL attack dogs that are armed and trained by Iran and Iran is about to lose Hamas as an organized entity. Rafah is about to be crushed and after that you'll be on here claiming Hamas victories just because they can carry on an insurgency. Hamas lost last night and Rafah residents need to get busy moving to anywhere else... Glad you agree the Israeli response was weak and unnecessary. If Israel wants to vent its spleen on Rafah then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #342 Share Posted April 19 43 minutes ago, Tom1200 said: Do you know if any of that is true? In 2007 Iran arrested 14 squirrels for espionage. I’m thinking you’re the ring leader? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1200 Posted April 19 #343 Share Posted April 19 16 minutes ago, and-then said: Israel loses face with a weak strike and Iran loses face by making claims then walking away. As I asked UT earlier - what do we actually KNOW for certain about this incident? There seems to be a lot of speculation without substance. And anyone tuning to Al Jazeera for their news clearly shows a determination to spin against Israel, no matter what the facts are. It looks to me equally possible that Israel fired one single rocket, perhaps a Jericho, possibly without even a warhead, just to show Iran look - we can hit you anywhere, any time. 1 minute ago, Unusual Tournament said: In 2007 Iran arrested 14 squirrels for espionage. I’m thinking you’re the ring leader? Trying to be funny? Sorry chum, you're not. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #344 Share Posted April 19 19 minutes ago, and-then said: Why? Maybe because the top leaders were running their mouths very energetically, as late as a few hours prior to the explosions claiming an Iranian response would be within "seconds" and would be "massive and severe"? Rumors are that DC talked both parties into stepping back. Israel loses face with a weak strike and Iran loses face by making claims then walking away. The ACTUAL win will come when Israel rolls into Rafah. Well both Iran and Israel were running their mouths off. Both have shown they are only capable of projecting power in their respective vicinity. Hopefully this wake-up call snaps the region outta its delusional state and brings some long overdue peace to the Middle East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted April 19 #345 Share Posted April 19 @Tom1200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted April 19 #346 Share Posted April 19 50 minutes ago, Tom1200 said: Do you know if any of that is true? Essentially none of what he typed was true. It seems the attack on Iran only involved three Israeli missiles that hit an Iranian air defense radar site near Isfahan. As Israel was hitting Iran they also bombed targets in Syria, air defense positions and radar, along with reports of a bombing in Iraq, seems in Iraq the target was IRGC leaders meeting up with the leaders of various Iranian militia groups. A lot of missiles were found in Iraq but the overwhelming majority seem to be Iranian anti-air missiles that were fired in an attempt to stop the Israeli attack and didn't hit anything. At least one booster stage that appears to be from an Israeli Blue Sparrow missile was found in Iraq. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted April 19 Author #347 Share Posted April 19 51 minutes ago, and-then said: Jews in that region subscribe to the "if someone will rise to kill you, KILL THEM FIRST" outlook. You can't survive next to Arabs unless you do. Also this: Responding to injury without revenge, welcomes further suffering 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Jerks Posted April 19 Author #348 Share Posted April 19 7 hours ago, Unusual Tournament said: Now Israel looks weak and vulnerable and Netanyahu is on his way out Israelis are far too strategic and tactical to care about appearances. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 19 #349 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Unusual Tournament said: If Israel wants to vent its spleen on Rafah then so be it. Wait, wut? Weren't you on here a few weeks back screaming about the "poor Palestinian chirren"? So now if Rafah is crushed, erryting be ayrie? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted April 19 #350 Share Posted April 19 Israel showed Iran they can reach the center of Iran state . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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