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It was disgrace that British politicians were attending anyway.

Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.

Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.

Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban.

Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. 

Police order closure of right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman (msn.com)

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1 hour ago, pellinore said:

It was disgrace that British politicians were attending anyway.

Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.

Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.

Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban.

Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. 

Police order closure of right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman (msn.com)

Somewhere in Brussels, a mayor is sitting in a room reading about 'The Streisand Effect', face-palming himself.

Meanwhile, "Belgium Welcomes 'Butcher of Tehran' to Summit"

During the 2022 uprisings, Tehran Mayor Alireza Zakani reportedly enlisted Tehran's Municipality resources to assist armed groups in suppressing protesters, resulting in injuries, beatings, and arrests. These actions, coupled with his close relationship with Ali Khamenei, have earned him the moniker "the butcher of Tehran." 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.meforum.org/64620/belgium-welcomes-butcher-of-tehran-to-summit

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4 hours ago, pellinore said:

It was disgrace that British politicians were attending anyway.

Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.

Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.

Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban.

Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. 

Police order closure of right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman (msn.com)

Utterly disgraceful act to curtail democracy, pandering to the loony left who loan and gripe until they try to stop the right and centre right. 

Trouble is, everyone can see what it's happening. 

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I would say this action is so extreme that even the UK left wing press will have trouble supporting a shut down of the event.

They will likely just try and ignore it. 

I can see the local mayor, Emir Kir, having to fall on his sword. 

Apparently when the rightwing politicians are from his own nation he has no problem.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/83715/mayor-in-brussels-summoned-to-explain-meetings-with-far-right-turkish-politicians-saint-josse-emir-kir-grey-wolves-turkey-nationalist 

 

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38 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

I would say this action is so extreme that even the UK left wing press will have trouble supporting a shut down of the event.

They will likely just try and ignore it. 

I can see the local mayor, Emir Kir, having to fall on his sword. 

Apparently when the rightwing politicians are from his own nation he has no problem.

https://www.brusselstimes.com/83715/mayor-in-brussels-summoned-to-explain-meetings-with-far-right-turkish-politicians-saint-josse-emir-kir-grey-wolves-turkey-nationalist 

 

The good news is, the far right nutters like Braverman and Truss, and the ignoramus Rees Mogg, will lose their seats in the next GE so we won't have to hear from them anymore. Farage is a 7 times loser so when GBeebies folds he will be gone too, so hopefully normal politics and democracy can resume in the UK.

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2 hours ago, pellinore said:

so hopefully normal politics and democracy can resume in the UK

And your version of democracy is obviously shutting down debate from those you disagree with.

Just imagine the absolute outcry from all corners if it had been someone like Putin that had shut down a conference of far-left lunatics such as Corbyn, Verhoffhishead etc. There would be no end of condemnation (and rightly so), but you, the silence is deafening.

This has played right into Nigel's hands, exposing the supposed home of European "democracy" for exactly what it is, and the backlash will be a huge boost for all the Eurosceptic European election campaigns in June.

It has already prompted the Prime Minister of Belgium, Alexander De Croo, to condemn these actions, tweeting, quote: "What happened at the Claridge today is unacceptable. Municipal autonomy is a cornerstone of our democracy but can never overrule the Belgian constitution guaranteeing the freedom of speech and peaceful assembly since 1830. Banning political meetings is unconstitutional. Full stop." 👇👇👇👇

https://twitter.com/alexanderdecroo/status/1780266715277914324?t=xhIZYXZ3SRHybK1xytVOoA&s=19

 

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6 hours ago, pellinore said:

The good news is, the far right nutters like Braverman and Truss, and the ignoramus Rees Mogg, will lose their seats in the next GE so we won't have to hear from them anymore. Farage is a 7 times loser so when GBeebies folds he will be gone too, so hopefully normal politics and democracy can resume in the UK.

Well that pretty much tells us what you think of democracy. 

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"The storming of NatCon is a reminder that for all the talk of a resurgent right-wing authoritarianism in Europe, the central threat to liberty and democratic rights comes from the technocratic elites and their stage army of activists. It comes from those who are literally sending in the police to shut down free debate, free assembly and the free exchange of ideas. Whether you’re left-wing, right-wing, conservative or progressive, anyone who believes in liberty, who believes in the best of European values, needs to oppose this sinister censorship."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/04/16/the-sinister-censorship-of-natcon-brussels/

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20 hours ago, pellinore said:

It was disgrace that British politicians were attending anyway.

Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.

Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.

Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban.

Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. 

Police order closure of right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman (msn.com)

Nothing wrong with National Conservatism.

Its the socialist version we need to be worried about.

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9 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

And your version of democracy is obviously shutting down debate from those you disagree with.

Just imagine the absolute outcry from all corners if it had been someone like Putin that had shut down a conference of far-left lunatics such as Corbyn, Verhoffhishead etc. There would be no end of condemnation (and rightly so), but you, the silence is deafening.

This has played right into Nigel's hands, exposing the supposed home of European "democracy" for exactly what it is, and the backlash will be a huge boost for all the Eurosceptic European election campaigns in June.

It has already prompted the Prime Minister of Belgium, Alexander De Croo, to condemn these actions, tweeting, quote: "What happened at the Claridge today is unacceptable. Municipal autonomy is a cornerstone of our democracy but can never overrule the Belgian constitution guaranteeing the freedom of speech and peaceful assembly since 1830. Banning political meetings is unconstitutional. Full stop." 👇👇👇👇

https://twitter.com/alexanderdecroo/status/1780266715277914324?t=xhIZYXZ3SRHybK1xytVOoA&s=19

 

If Farage and Braverman feel their democratic rights have been infringed, they should take the matter to the ECHR. This is exactly the sort of case they deal with- upholding citizens' rights against the state acting unfairly. It seems they would have a pretty good case.

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18 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said:

Utterly disgraceful act to curtail democracy, pandering to the loony left who loan and gripe until they try to stop the right and centre right. 

Trouble is, everyone can see what it's happening. 

They should appeal to the ECHR; upholding democracy is its bread and butter.

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1 hour ago, pellinore said:

They should appeal to the ECHR; upholding democracy is its bread and butter.

Now I know you're taking the p***.  😆

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16 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Now I know you're taking the p***.  😆

I'm not, though, this is just the sort of case that should be taken to the ECHR- upholding citizens' rights, etc.  (Tory MP Owen Patterson took his case to them when he believed Parliament unfairly accused him of lobbying, but I'm pretty sure they rejected his case as frivolous- because he was guilty).

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2 hours ago, pellinore said:

If Farage and Braverman feel their democratic rights have been infringed, they should take the matter to the ECHR. This is exactly the sort of case they deal with- upholding citizens' rights against the state acting unfairly. It seems they would have a pretty good case.

And would this be the same ECHR that the EU itself as a body has still not signed up to then would it, despite the EU's accession to the ECHR being a legal obligation of 'The Lisbon Treaty'? 🤔

Article 6(2) of 'The Lisbon Treaty' requires that the European Union itself as a body must sign up to the 'European Convention on Human Rights' (ECHR), but after an ECJ ruling in December 2014, negotiations for EU accession stalled.

In July 2013 the European Commission approached the ECJ to seek its opinion on whether ECHR accession was compatible with EU law. In December 2014 the EU's Supreme Court ruled that the bloc itself as a body cannot join the 'European Convention on Human Rights', because - get this.... to do so would undermine its own laws and give an external body the power to review the application of EU law. How's that for irony eh.!! 😂

Quote: "Accession is liable to upset the underlying balance of the EU and undermine the autonomy of EU law" the court said in its ruling, adding that, quote: "In light of the problems identified, the Court concludes that the draft agreement on the accession of the EU to the ECHR is incompatible with EU law." 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.icj.org/eu-court-opinion-a-major-setback-for-human-rights-in-europe/

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7 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

And would this be the same ECHR that the EU itself as a body has still not signed up to then would it, despite the EU's accession to the ECHR being a legal obligation of 'The Lisbon Treaty'? 🤔

Article 6(2) of 'The Lisbon Treaty' requires that the European Union itself as a body must sign up to the 'European Convention on Human Rights' (ECHR), but after an ECJ ruling in December 2014, negotiations for EU accession stalled.

In July 2013 the European Commission approached the ECJ to seek its opinion on whether ECHR accession was compatible with EU law. In December 2014 the EU's Supreme Court ruled that the bloc itself as a body cannot join the 'European Convention on Human Rights', because - get this.... to do so would undermine its own laws and give an external body the power to review the application of EU law. How's that for irony eh.!! 😂

Quote: "Accession is liable to upset the underlying balance of the EU and undermine the autonomy of EU law" the court said in its ruling, adding that, quote: "In light of the problems identified, the Court concludes that the draft agreement on the accession of the EU to the ECHR is incompatible with EU law." 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.icj.org/eu-court-opinion-a-major-setback-for-human-rights-in-europe/

The ECHR is not perfect, but it is a force for good in that it helps preserve democracy and the rule of law. Britain is not often censured compared to other countries, but there is this:

Britain has been obliged to take greater care of vulnerable prisoners, regulate the monitoring of employees' communications, protect the anonymity of journalists' sources, bring the age of consent for gay people in line with that for heterosexuals and force local councils to observe proper safeguards in evictions.

"It isn't just about the human rights of individuals," says Paul Mahoney, the court's veteran British judge, "it's about the functioning of the rule of law – of democratic institutions – in countries not all of which have, like the UK, enjoyed 300-odd years of democracy and freedom.

Why is the European court of human rights hated by the UK right? | European court of human rights | The Guardian

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56 minutes ago, pellinore said:

The ECHR is not perfect, but it is a force for good in that it helps preserve democracy and the rule of law. Britain is not often censured compared to other countries, but there is this:

Britain has been obliged to take greater care of vulnerable prisoners, regulate the monitoring of employees' communications, protect the anonymity of journalists' sources, bring the age of consent for gay people in line with that for heterosexuals and force local councils to observe proper safeguards in evictions.

"It isn't just about the human rights of individuals," says Paul Mahoney, the court's veteran British judge, "it's about the functioning of the rule of law – of democratic institutions – in countries not all of which have, like the UK, enjoyed 300-odd years of democracy and freedom.

Why is the European court of human rights hated by the UK right? | European court of human rights | The Guardian

Well if the ECHR is so wonderful pellinore then why hasn't your beloved EUseless as a body still not signed up to it then, even though the EU's accession to the ECHR is a legal obligation of 'The Lisbon Treaty'? 🤔

Oh, and this is also from the Guardian: "UK cannot deport Nigerian convicted of rape, European court rules, because removal would breach his right to family life"

And there are far too many such ridiculous rulings like this by the ECHR as well, but you're obviously perfectly fine with the UK being unable to kick convicted foreign rapists and murderers out of the country because of their right to a family life.

Maybe that's why the 'European Court of Human Rights' is hated by the right, because it panders to the criminals that are blatantly playing the system to their advantage, whilst totally disregarding the wishes of their victims. 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/sep/20/uk-deport-nigerian-european-court

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4 minutes ago, Destination Unknown said:

Well if the ECHR is so wonderful pellinore then why hasn't your beloved EUseless as a body still not signed up to it then, even though the EU's accession to the ECHR is a legal obligation of 'The Lisbon Treaty'? 🤔

Oh, and this is also from the Guardian: "UK cannot deport Nigerian convicted of rape, European court rules, because removal would breach his right to family life"

And there are far too many such ridiculous rulings like this by the ECHR as well, but you're obviously perfectly fine with the UK being unable to kick convicted foreign rapists and murderers out of the country because of their right to a family life.

Maybe that's why the 'European Court of Human Rights' is hated by the right, because it panders to the criminals that are blatantly playing the system to their advantage, whilst totally disregarding the wishes of their victims. 🤦👇👇👇👇

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/sep/20/uk-deport-nigerian-european-court

I keep forgetting there is a small minority of people in the UK, probably fascist Farage supporters, who are against human rights, democracy and the rule of law. They will certainly regret this if the state ever comes after them.

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1 hour ago, pellinore said:

I keep forgetting there is a small minority of people in the UK, probably fascist Farage supporters, who are against human rights, democracy and the rule of law. They will certainly regret this if the state ever comes after them.

As usual pellinore you're just not listening, because you've just completely ignored everything I've said in my previous comment and interpreted it to mean that I'm against Human Rights.

For the record pellinore, I'm not against Human Rights, I'm against a system that abuses my Human Rights to be able to walk the streets safely by allowing convicted foreign rapists and murderers to stay in the country. Have you got that pellinore, because Human Rights is supposed to work both ways, not just favour the criminal.

So why do you think we shouldn't be allowed to deport convicted foreign rapists and murderers then pellinore, is there something you're hiding? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/sep/20/uk-deport-nigerian-european-court

 

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3 hours ago, Destination Unknown said:

As usual pellinore you're just not listening, because you've just completely ignored everything I've said in my previous comment and interpreted it to mean that I'm against Human Rights.

For the record pellinore, I'm not against Human Rights, I'm against a system that abuses my Human Rights to be able to walk the streets safely by allowing convicted foreign rapists and murderers to stay in the country. Have you got that pellinore, because Human Rights is supposed to work both ways, not just favour the criminal.

So why do you think we shouldn't be allowed to deport convicted foreign rapists and murderers then pellinore, is there something you're hiding? 🤔👇👇👇👇

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/sep/20/uk-deport-nigerian-european-court

 

The guy is an EU shill, end of. 

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