SETI Institute chief offers his views on UFOs and alien visitors

[ChrLzs]

On 5/19/2024 at 10:26 AM, ChrLzs said:

Admirable ... but please cite those rather specific claims, because some of us rudely think that we do need that photo, and that eyewitness testimony counts for ****. However, if it is really 50+ witnesses, and they all 'march' {sic}, then I'll be suitably impressed.

But, gotta be straight up - I think that claim is something other than truth.  Citation required, or if not, I'll be most interested in the excuse.  Perhaps you may wish to apologise, as I will if you post the cite.

Gee, I hope Earl is OK.  For some inexplicable reason he is not answering my quite polite request.  Hasn't been at UM since May 9.  Maybe he's just working on a very comprehensive explanatory posting...?

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

Gee, I hope Earl is OK.  For some inexplicable reason he is not answering my quite polite request.  Hasn't been at UM since May 9.  Maybe he's just working on a very comprehensive explanatory posting...?

He rounding up that ,60 plus witnesses statements he had that no one else could find

[Hazzard]

On 5/24/2024 at 6:21 AM, the13bats said:

He rounding up that ,60 plus witnesses statements he had that no one else could find

Its believer debating tactics 101...

- When you muck up so extremely epic that you get your ass handed to you ... dodge, run away, and hope they have a short memory.

[ChrLzs]

15 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Its believer debating tactics 101...

- When you muck up so extremely epic that you get your ass handed to you ... dodge, run away, and hope they have a short memory.

As I get older, my short term memory is getting a little flaky (wtf did I do with my car keys?  ), but it's now 17 days since he's been around, so ... Earl had better have a good reason, and an explanation if he is unable to come up with these prolific but shy witnesses.  He's now in my long-term filing cabinet and has a 'Follow-Up' flag...

 I've made a few errors in postings here over the years, but I always fess up, explain why I made the error, and if I can't fully explain, then I also apologise to all readers.  It's good for the soul.  Will Earl do that, because I'm pretty sure that is not part of TB Tactics 101..?

[the13bats]

20 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Its believer debating tactics 101...

- When you muck up so extremely epic that you get your ass handed to you ... dodge, run away, and hope they have a short memory.

I'm lifetime OCD getting worse in a way, I remember stupid shi...stuff

[the13bats]

5 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

As I get older, my short term memory is getting a little flaky (wtf did I do with my car keys?  ), but it's now 17 days since he's been around, so ... Earl had better have a good reason, and an explanation if he is unable to come up with these prolific but shy witnesses.  He's now in my long-term filing cabinet and has a 'Follow-Up' flag...

 I've made a few errors in postings here over the years, but I always fess up, explain why I made the error, and if I can't fully explain, then I also apologise to all readers.  It's good for the soul.  Will Earl do that, because I'm pretty sure that is not part of TB Tactics 101..?

He proved to me what he's about with that making up stuff about gellar on tonight show, then calling me a liar, zero integrity or credibility but I'm always open for anyone to redeem themselves.

[astrobeing]

On 5/26/2024 at 11:16 AM, the13bats said:

He proved to me what he's about with that making up stuff about gellar on tonight show, then calling me a liar, zero integrity or credibility but I'm always open for anyone to redeem themselves.

Earl had several opportunities to show I didn't understand the Salem UFO photo despite his repeated claims that he knew everything about the area. While Earl was making empty and some provably false claims about the photo, Pericynthion's excellent analysis of it explained it all to me. I wish we had more content like that.

[Procyon]

On 4/27/2024 at 9:40 AM, Hazzard said:

 

I think that it cant hurt to keep listening... but Im willing to bet my butt that in the near future (30 years) we will find the signs of life in an exoplanets atmosphere, maybe even signs of technology.

 

https://www.earth.com/news/oxygen-levels-on-distant-planets-reveal-presence-of-alien-technology/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technosignature

 

They found something like this around Tabby's Star, a red dwarf with some really weird properties that could indicate the presence of a partial dyson sphere. I based an entire sci-fi book off the idea, but most scientists seem to think that it's just a natural debris field.

[Hazzard]

3 minutes ago, Procyon said:

They found something like this around Tabby's Star, a red dwarf with some really weird properties that could indicate the presence of a partial dyson sphere. I based an entire sci-fi book off the idea, but most scientists seem to think that it's just a natural debris field.

 

Yes, here is the latest Iv seen on this...

https://www.jameswebbdiscovery.com/faqs/what-is-the-latest-research-on-mysterious-dimming-behavior-of-tabbys-star

[ChrLzs]

Ooh, thank heaven's he's ok.  @Earl.Of.Trumps has returned.  Well, not to this thread...............   maybe he just fergot.

That stuff about Uri Geller may be somewhat offtopic, but is very relevant and rather damning when it comes to Earl's record on 'truth'.  He also has a major problem in admitting (or not) when he makes errors..  I might post a link later for anyone interested..  I wonder if/when he will come back here, and substantiate at least some of those many (40,50,60, what was it again?) confirming witnesses.  I'd really love to see what they supposedly said (and how they were found..).  If they ever supposedly existed.

[Hazzard]

55 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

Ooh, thank heaven's he's ok.  @Earl.Of.Trumps has returned.  Well, not to this thread...............   maybe he just fergot.

That stuff about Uri Geller may be somewhat offtopic, but is very relevant and rather damning when it comes to Earl's record on 'truth'.  He also has a major problem in admitting (or not) when he makes errors..  I might post a link later for anyone interested..  I wonder if/when he will come back here, and substantiate at least some of those many (40,50,60, what was it again?) confirming witnesses.  I'd really love to see what they supposedly said (and how they were found..).  If they ever supposedly existed.

Speaking of...

Does anyone know what happened to @skyeagle409 ... If he got banned,  went on strike or retired from everything??

[the13bats]

24 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Speaking of...

Does anyone know what happened to @skyeagle409 ... If he got banned,  went on strike or retired from everything??

Seems a while back our fearless leader wizard cat said he just vanished.

[ChrLzs]

3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Speaking of...

Does anyone know what happened to @skyeagle409 ... If he got banned,  went on strike or retired from everything??

I got the strong sense that sky was finding it a rewardless battle.  Towards April (which is when he seems to have vanished) he was being deprived of his ability to **** on threads sit there endlessly 'answering' the criticisms of his favorite cases by repeatedly copy/pasting walls-o-text, almost always irrelevant, uncited, and nothing but tall stories devoid of even a shred of evidence.

And he was getting really annoyed when folks simply asked him to focus on one or two best cases.  He was clearly afraid to commit to any of those cases as being 'The One's, ie worthy of attention.

I don't think he has passed on, but I also couldn't find any new activity of his on his former hangouts. 

So I guess that just leaves one possibility...

 

Abducted by aliens.  He was getting too close.

[csspwns]

3 hours ago, Hazzard said:

Speaking of...

Does anyone know what happened to @skyeagle409 ... If he got banned,  went on strike or retired from everything??

He wasn't banned but he disappeared the day after Saru said this:

Interesting timing. I would guess taking accountability is too much for him so he tucked his tail and ran. This seems to be a concerning trend amongst the believers' camp -- Hankenhunter is the latest to be doing this after I called him out on his BS. 

Edited June 5 by csspwns

[the13bats]

I would speculate some believers get tired of being empty handed.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 6/4/2024 at 9:51 PM, ChrLzs said:

Ooh, thank heaven's he's ok.  @Earl.Of.Trumps has returned.  Well, not to this thread...............   maybe he just fergot.

That stuff about Uri Geller may be somewhat offtopic, but is very relevant and rather damning when it comes to Earl's record on 'truth'.  He also has a major problem in admitting (or not) when he makes errors..  I might post a link later for anyone interested..  I wonder if/when he will come back here, and substantiate at least some of those many (40,50,60, what was it again?) confirming witnesses.  I'd really love to see what they supposedly said (and how they were found..).  If they ever supposedly existed.

 

This guy has to be a total ***.  "Let's lie in wait for EoT"

he doesn't come here to talk about the thread subject matter, him and 13bats come here to start a bash gest and arguments. 

 

Hey @ChrLzs - I thought you had me on ignore. phony

[ChrLzs]

19 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

This guy has to be a total ***.  "Let's lie in wait for EoT"

he doesn't come here to talk about the thread subject matter, him and 13bats come here to start a bash gest and arguments. 

Hey @ChrLzs - I thought you had me on ignore. phony

I did have you on ignore, but I often give a second chance.  Lucky you.  Besides, others were asking when you were going to back up your claim of 50-60 (or more?) witnesses. I knew you wouldn't dare miss the chance to correct what must have been an innocent omission, and become a contributor to the thread.  Then we can happily continue with the thread topic, as we seem to have covered everything else.

 

So, rather than the ad hominems, how about you do so?  Do you need me to find the posts you made about all those witnesses?

Edited June 6 by ChrLzs

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 5/23/2024 at 8:34 PM, ChrLzs said:

Gee, I hope Earl is OK.  For some inexplicable reason he is not answering my quite polite request.  Hasn't been at UM since May 9.  Maybe he's just working on a very comprehensive explanatory posting...?

 

this guy ^claims^ he put EoT in "ignore".

What a B-S artist. 

Edited June 6 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 5/26/2024 at 8:43 AM, ChrLzs said:

As I get older, my short term memory is getting a little flaky (wtf did I do with my car keys?  ), but it's now 17 days since he's been around, so ... Earl had better have a good reason, and an explanation if he is unable to come up with these prolific but shy witnesses.  He's now in my long-term filing cabinet and has a 'Follow-Up' flag...

 I've made a few errors in postings here over the years, but I always fess up, explain why I made the error, and if I can't fully explain, then I also apologise to all readers.  It's good for the soul.  Will Earl do that, because I'm pretty sure that is not part of TB Tactics 101..?

Are you soft in the head...? you have the days counted down that I have not been here...? HUH?????

And WHY must I have a "good reason" and a good reason for what,,, not being here? Ok, Adolph, what's my penalty if I don't have a satisfactory excuse??

You are one dangerous hombre. 

Edited June 6 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 5/25/2024 at 5:33 PM, Hazzard said:

Its believer debating tactics 101...

- When you muck up so extremely epic that you get your ass handed to you ... dodge, run away, and hope they have a short memory.

... And what exactly did I "screw up on"????          

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 5/26/2024 at 2:16 PM, the13bats said:

He proved to me what he's about with that making up stuff about gellar on tonight show, then calling me a liar, zero integrity or credibility but I'm always open for anyone to redeem themselves.

Come on, now, I only called you a liar because you are

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

On 5/28/2024 at 3:14 PM, astrobeing said:

Earl had several opportunities to show I didn't understand the Salem UFO photo despite his repeated claims that he knew everything about the area. While Earl was making empty and some provably false claims about the photo, Pericynthion's excellent analysis of it explained it all to me. I wish we had more content like that.

you are completely full of crap.

there was nothing of the topography that I did not know. I have been to that area many times in my life. You,... another congenital liar. 

[the13bats]

48 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

 

This guy has to be a total ***.  "Let's lie in wait for EoT"

he doesn't come here to talk about the thread subject matter, him and 13bats come here to start a bash gest and arguments. 

 

Hey @ChrLzs - I thought you had me on ignore. phony

Read this very carefully EOT if you are going to resort to trolling

Do you yes or no have those 60 plus UFO witnesses ( thread topic ) reports you claimed , it's a simply yes or no, and feel free to report me for you to come through on what you claimed.

Don't play victim just support your claims.

[the13bats]

10 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Are you soft in the head...? you have the days counted down that I have not been here...? HUH?????

And WHY must I have a "good reason" and a good reason for what,,, not being here? Ok, Adolph, what's my penalty if I don't have a satisfactory excuse??

You are on dangerous hombre. 

Stop Off topic trolling , do you have your claimed proof or not?

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

38 minutes ago, ChrLzs said:

I did have you on ignore, but I often give a second chance.  Lucky you.  Besides, others were asking when you were going to back up your claim of 50-60 (or more?) witnesses. I knew you wouldn't dare miss the chance to correct what must have been an innocent omission, and become a contributor to the thread.  Then we can happily continue with the thread topic, as we seem to have covered everything else.

 

So, rather than the ad hominems, how about you do so?  Do you need me to find the posts you made about all those witnesses?

I could find data for the neighbors but never the power plant employees. but I would never do it, not for you people.

People ask... I tell the truth. About 40 observers in the power plant, and maybe 25 neighbors in the willows. If you and others don't believe it,,, fine with me.,