Family experiences paranormal activity after 'non-human' crashed in their yard

[UM-Bot]

A family who reported that an object had crashed in their yard last year has since been plagued by paranormal experiences.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/376528/family-experiences-paranormal-activity-after-non-human-crashed-in-their-yard

[esoteric_toad]

Event happens nearly a year ago. Claims they are 'plagued' by paranormal activity. Provides zero evidence. Seems odd if you are being 'plagued'. JMO of course.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

I was able to find a news report on this incident. It includes a video containing the images of the falling object, the family's 911 call regarding the alleged crash in their backyard, as well as police body-cam footage. Guess what the officers who responded to the 911 call found in the backyard. Nothing.

https://abc7.com/las-vegas-aliens-ufo-alien-news/13359881/

[papageorge1]

Sounds crazy, weird and also believable to me. Now, it would be nice if one of the stories told us how long the object and beings were there and how they left the scene, but 'No'.

Very Preliminary Papameter Reading

60% Paranormal/Alien     40% Normal/Hoax

 

[Gumball]

This is one of those strange stories that doesn't seem fake but doesn't feel right. The original part that is.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

I would say that *something* happened and it scared them witless, and their imaginations went wild. These folks were not intentionally hoaxing, in my opinion.

 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[the13bats]

Sorry, this has all the marks of a made up attention grab.

Let's see going by information as we have on it,
a real documented event took place...

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The American Meteor Society maintained that a meteor was responsible for the sightings, with 21 reports being received in total across California, Nevada and Utah.

So no shock that witnesses saw something, but wait...

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"There's like an 8-foot person beside [the object] and another one is inside us and it has big eyes and it's looking at us - and it's still there," he told the dispatcher at the time.

"They're very large. They're like 8 foot, 9 feet, 10 foot. They look like aliens to us. Big eyes. They have big eyes. Like, I can't explain it, and big mouth. They're shiny eyes and they're human."

"They're 100% not human."

Of course police found zero, zip, zlitch to support any of that outlandish tales. In other words, just a story.

Most space craft crashed saw aliens stories end there but this "teenager" took it further suggesting now demons are involved and are tossing around religious decor type items, again with zero evidence to support such claims.

 

 

[papageorge1]

I am not afraid to give a theory (not a claim)

The UFO event involved opening an interdimensional portal and these aliens were seen for a short time in our normal three-dimensional reality. Now low-level spirits have used this portal for low-level activities like as it said floating an upside-down cross in mid-air.

[Antigonos]

12 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I am not afraid to give a theory (not a claim)

The UFO event involved opening an interdimensional portal and these aliens were seen for a short time in our normal three-dimensional reality. Now low-level spirits have used this portal for low-level activities like as it said floating an upside-down cross in mid-air.

Well that’s certainly a low level helping of sanity.

[papageorge1]

52 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Well that’s certainly a low level helping of sanity.

I don't consider 'irrational resistance to claims of the alien/paranormal' to be a sane approach.

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by papageorge1

[+Liquid Gardens]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

I don't consider 'irrational resistance to claims of the alien/paranormal' to be a sane approach.

What's 'irrational' about it exactly?

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

I am not afraid to give a theory (not a claim)

The UFO event involved opening an interdimensional portal and these aliens were seen for a short time in our normal three-dimensional reality. Now low-level spirits have used this portal for low-level activities like as it said floating an upside-down cross in mid-air.

What would there be to fear?  Here are some more equally believable theories:

- There was a temporary glitch in the computer simulation that is actually our reality, another simulation with different creatures must have leaked into ours temporarily

- Sauron has re-emerged and reforged the One Ring and is using magic to scout out the forces of Men for future conquest

- Someone broke the rules and forgot to say 'Goodbye' after using a Ouija board

- Jesus has risen (in a new taller, larger-eyed form)

- These creatures are always roaming around but the vast majority of people are unaware of them due to the Mandela Effect

- These are Sasquatches caught without their fur coats on

All those seem about on equal par as far as 'utterly unsupported' as your theory about unevidenced interdimensional portals and low-level spirits. 

Of course there is another theory:  maybe just maybe the story you are reading on the internet isn't fully accurate?  Of all these theories this is easily and obviously the one with the most evidence of actually occurring sometimes, that evidence is actually overwhelming.  

[papageorge1]

5 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

What's 'irrational' about it exactly?

Once again rational skepticism is a good thing. 'Irrational resistance' is an emotional dislike and the skepticism is done with a vehemence and emotion that is not a rational response to a serious claim.

Here's a paper from the 'Journal of Scientific Exploration'

Hume’s Syndrome: Irrational Resistance to the Paranormal

 

14 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

 

 Here are some more equally believable theories:

- There was a temporary glitch in the computer simulation that is actually our reality, another simulation with different creatures must have leaked into ours temporarily

- Sauron has re-emerged and reforged the One Ring and is using magic to scout out the forces of Men for future conquest

- Someone broke the rules and forgot to say 'Goodbye' after using a Ouija board

- Jesus has risen (in a new taller, larger-eyed form)

- These creatures are always roaming around but the vast majority of people are unaware of them due to the Mandela Effect

- These are Sasquatches caught without their fur coats on

All those seem about on equal par as far as 'utterly unsupported' as your theory about unevidenced interdimensional portals and low-level spirits. 

Of course there is another theory:  maybe just maybe the story you are reading on the internet isn't fully accurate?  Of all these theories this is easily and obviously the one with the most evidence of actually occurring sometimes, that evidence is actually overwhelming.  

Sure, one can create any logically possible theory. It's up to each of us to form an opinion on their likelihood. The theory I proposed was worth proposing IMO as it matches up with many things I've heard over decades of listening and provides a possible connection for seemingly unrelated experiences.

[+Liquid Gardens]

23 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

'Irrational resistance' is an emotional dislike and the skepticism is done with a vehemence and emotion that is not a rational response to a serious claim.

Actually, 'rationally' and logically, 'the vehemence and emotion' have no necessary relationship to how rational the resistance is.  People disbelieve paranormal claims for very rational reasons, and the fact that they may be angry or delighted or apathetic has nothing to do with whether the resistance is rational or not.  That is determined by the reasoning, not how you feel about it.  

27 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Here's a paper from the 'Journal of Scientific Exploration'

To be honest that was terrible.  So many words and psychological projection all in an effort to dodge the only relevant factor, the supporting evidence, which the paper hardly mentions at all.  Paranormal ideas are not being 'repressed', they are being criticized.  There's nothing irrational about disbelieving or 'resisting' paranormal ideas when you don't have even moderately good evidence supporting it, nor is there an issue with the evidence being ignored as you can see daily on this very site.

This paper is just a giant case of 'irrationally' avoiding what skeptics overwhelmingly say is their actual reason for their disbelief: profound lack of evidence.  If a skeptic is also vehement or hostile about it then those emotions may be irrational just because all emotions are ultimately not 'logical', duh, but that doesn't make the resistance 'irrational'. That's an accusation that they've reached their position without using reason; people who use reason to arrive at their disbelief and are angry about paranormal claims are not engaging in 'irrational resistance'.

You seem to have the strange idea that each repeated claim of paranormal activity needs to be approached as if there were no history of these claims, like I'm supposed to just be totally agnostic if I hear that there was another sighting of Nessie and not factor in the fact that there have been a ton of such sightings and full-out scans/searches in Loch Ness to no avail.  Ignoring existing evidence as well as the utter lack of it doesn't sound that 'rational' to me.

48 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

The theory I proposed was worth proposing IMO as it matches up with many things I've heard over decades of listening and provides a possible connection for seemingly unrelated experiences.

So do mine ultimately, that was the point. There's lots of evidence-free possibilities and since they're all evidence-free they're essentially equal as far as likelihood, so I guess mine were worth proposing too then. 

[papageorge1]

5 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

 

This paper is just a giant case of 'irrationally' avoiding what skeptics overwhelmingly say is their actual reason for their disbelief: profound lack of evidence.   

In his opening abstract he specifically calls out a case where there was no: profound lack of evidence

 

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To illustrate, the present paper looks at David Hume’s discussion of miracles in his An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding (1748/1955). Hume’s essay actually lays out a good case for some extraordinary events reported about the death of the Jansenist Francois de Paris—phenomena produced by the so-called ‘‘convulsionaries of St. Medard.’’

 

12 minutes ago, Liquid Gardens said:

So do mine ultimately, that was the point. There's lots of evidence-free possibilities and since they're all evidence-free they're essentially equal as far as likelihood, so I guess mine were worth proposing too then. 

Well, here we disagree. I do not hold every logically possible theory as equally likely and you don't either. For example, the theory that telepathy involves mental waves beyond our ability to detect is on a higher level of likelihood than 'invisible Bigfoots are delivering the thoughts'. 

[+Liquid Gardens]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

In his opening abstract he specifically calls out a case where there was no: profound lack of evidence

Where's the evidence then?  Good luck since Hume lived over 2 centuries ago.  The author of the paper merely saying a good case is laid out is no different than you or I stating that.  This case is also heavily related to religion; where's your potential bias evaluation that you offer so readily for skeptics, or don't you think fervent religious belief can be a bias (especially 200 years ago )

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

I do not hold every logically possible theory as equally likely and you don't either. For example, the theory that telepathy involves mental waves beyond our ability to detect is on a higher level of likelihood than 'invisible Bigfoots are delivering the thoughts'. 

Okay, that's because we have evidence of 'brains'; I don't know how you missed me saying 'evidence-free' multiple times.  What about interdimensional portals and the existence of spirits, let along hierarchies of them, is better evidenced than Jesus or magic or especially a simulation.  The simulation idea blows away your portal theory as far as whatever argument/evidence strength comes from 'inference from things that already exist'.

[Dejarma]

18 hours ago, the13bats said:

Sorry, this has all the marks of a made up attention grab.

yep, & it worked... it got the attention   💤

oow here's a thought:

make it into a TV show 

[openozy]

No hard evidence so it must have been faked, the people are mentally ill, liars or mistaken. Everybody knows the paranormal is just fantasy🙄 yet the majority of citizens either believe it's real or have experienced it. Strange that .

[the13bats]

On 4/26/2024 at 11:45 AM, papageorge1 said:

I don't consider 'irrational resistance to claims of the alien/paranormal' to be a sane approach.

 

Unfortunately when you consider any case you go in with high expectations it is paranormal you jump over all the proven explanations to jump to paranormal being "the" only or most likely explanation when it simply isn't. Worse even you make claims you are open minded yet when was the last time your goofy meter didn't lean to paranormal proving you are very tunnel visioned biased everything unexplained being paranormal,

A total lack of evidence to support paranormal is a huge hurdle for believes and skeptics alike things like falling for a hoax , the experience is unknown or mistaken to them, the story teller is a bs artist and mental illness are all very well proven explanations, mental illness is one with a huge stigma we have different reasons for mental illness, hereditary, accident etc and it's well proven that a side effect can be delusions and simply not knowing realty from fantasy, but insisting it's a flaw with they skeptic because they have special powers we lack, again with zero supporting evidence. If you can't show a use, show those special powers, can't show evidence all you got is a story.

So I make a reply like this and I get trashed and bashed by true believers saying how big a meanie I am for not being all naive and credious, it's never the skeptics burden to disprove the claims of the true believers no matter how butt hurt they get over it and I don't try I offer far more likely proven explanations I ask for any evidence which they never have and that makes me the bad guy.

Call me irrational? Okay.

 

[CrimsonKing]

12 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Unfortunately when you consider any case you go in with high expectations it is paranormal you jump over all the proven explanations to jump to paranormal being "the" only or most likely explanation when it simply isn't. Worse even you make claims you are open minded yet when was the last time your goofy meter didn't lean to paranormal proving you are very tunnel visioned biased everything unexplained being paranormal,

A total lack of evidence to support paranormal is a huge hurdle for believes and skeptics alike things like falling for a hoax , the experience is unknown or mistaken to them, the story teller is a bs artist and mental illness are all very well proven explanations, mental illness is one with a huge stigma we have different reasons for mental illness, hereditary, accident etc and it's well proven that a side effect can be delusions and simply not knowing realty from fantasy, but insisting it's a flaw with they skeptic because they have special powers we lack, again with zero supporting evidence. If you can't show a use, show those special powers, can't show evidence all you got is a story.

So I make a reply like this and I get trashed and bashed by true believers saying how big a meanie I am for not being all naive and credious, it's never the skeptics burden to disprove the claims of the true believers no matter how butt hurt they get over it and I don't try I offer far more likely proven explanations I ask for any evidence which they never have and that makes me the bad guy.

Call me irrational? Okay.

 

Extraordinary claims,require extraordinary evidence...

Can't sleep,nerve pain...so here I am 🖖 😄

[the13bats]

13 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Extraordinary claims,require extraordinary evidence...

Can't sleep,nerve pain...so here I am 🖖 😄

Mine is insomnia, nerves, panic type bs,

What you said won't earn you cool points with believers, they think they are special and we are flawed and proving they dont have special powers is our burden

[CrimsonKing]

2 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Mine is insomnia, nerves, panic type bs,

What you said won't earn you cool points with believers, they think they are special and we are flawed and proving they dont have special powers is our burden

Old car wreck neck injury,made worse by years of being young and not thinking 20 years ahead...bleh

😆 Yeah I used to roam these halls in this section years back...then it got too crazy so I stayed in politics for awhile...well here we are 🤣

[the13bats]

8 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Old car wreck neck injury,made worse by years of being young and not thinking 20 years ahead...bleh

😆 Yeah I used to roam these halls in this section years back...then it got too crazy so I stayed in politics for awhile...well here we are 🤣

Mines just the fun of mental issues staring in my 20 , I've come a long way self coping but it can be draining.

I took a break about a year ago , I came here for these topics then keep going back into politics , it was just so sad and draining to me how emerssome can get over a person, I'm trying to stay up here but the Internet caused so much unexplained to be explained

[papageorge1]

11 hours ago, the13bats said:

A total lack of evidence to support paranormal is a huge hurdle for believes and skeptics alike

 

There's our disagreement. The amount of suggestive anecdotal, experimental and investigative evidence I find mountainous. And you continue to call it ' A total lack of evidence'. That is where I make the claim of 'irrational'.

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

There's our disagreement. The amount of suggestive anecdotal, experimental and investigative evidence I find mountainous. And you continue to call it ' A total lack of evidence'. That is where I make the claim of 'irrational'.

Then we don't disagree I find your use of suggestive antidotal evidence to prove a case to you "irrational"

Try this, a person Akbar doesn't know says Akbars partner Jeff is cheating on him , this person has others Akbar doesn't know who agree Jeff is cheating on Akbar,

So my position is Akbar needs far more than these claims these antidotal stories Jeff is cheating to run out and divorce Jeff, yet the way you use stories would be akin to Akbar killing Jeff and dumping his body in a swap with nothing more to back up Jeff's cheating than stories and I do believe the majority would call Akbars blind belief in stories irrational.

Since this is a dead horse idea let's move on to the OP of this thread and see if the witnesses presents any real evidence.

[papageorge1]

1 hour ago, the13bats said:

yet the way you use stories would be akin to Akbar killing Jeff and dumping his body in a swap with nothing more to back up Jeff's cheating than stories and I do believe the majority would call Akbars blind belief in stories irrational.

right, I would never think to consider the accuracy and reliability of the story now would I. If someone says something about anything it becomes my full belief with unquestioned certainty.