College campuses are in chaos with arrests being made all over the US

[+susieice]

This is an ABC updating list but if you go down a few articles you'll find one that says half the arrests at Columbia and CCNY weren't students. 209 were arrested at UCLA last night.

College protests updates: Nearly half of Columbia and CCNY arrests were not students - ABC News (go.com)

"It became abundantly clear that individuals unaffiliated with these schools had entered these different campuses and, in some cases, were even training students in unlawful protest tactics, many of which we witnessed escalating into violent conduct," Adams claimed.

[CrimsonKing]

55 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Play Dough?

You see this stuff on TV and the Internet about how little some late millennial and all of "gen Z" actually know about things...

Seeing it in person is a whole different level 😄 

One guy I trained a few years back,asked one day if we had any gluten free protein bars because he didn't like added chemicals...

Had another dudes battery go dead in the parking lot about 5 years back...guy was already on the phone calling a tow truck before I could go outside and try and crank it.

It's funny,but it's pitiful at the same time.

[+Hammerclaw]

1 hour ago, susieice said:

This is an ABC updating list but if you go down a few articles you'll find one that says half the arrests at Columbia and CCNY weren't students. 209 were arrested at UCLA last night.

College protests updates: Nearly half of Columbia and CCNY arrests were not students - ABC News (go.com)

"It became abundantly clear that individuals unaffiliated with these schools had entered these different campuses and, in some cases, were even training students in unlawful protest tactics, many of which we witnessed escalating into violent conduct," Adams claimed.

What the yoots gotta understand is --while breaking the law can be a form of protest, they'll still be held accountable for their crimes.

[acidhead]

6 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I wonder how many of these kids grew up with conservative religious parents who pounded into their heads that Jews are behind every bad deed they hear about related to money or too much power or favoritism for their own faith?  Soros and the Jews are behind half of Trump's troubles so they say .Even some of the preachers reinforce this. I wonder what the conversation is like when these kids ask  about the beatitudes or the sermon on the mount? Did Jesus really say that about "Blessed are the peacemakers"?

 

I also wonder how many of these kids grew up with Liberal atheist parents who pounded into their heads that there is never an excuse to slaughter women and children in armed conflict no matter what country is doing the killing? 

It's also a fairytale for anybody to state Jews are behind "the chosen one" Trump's legal troubles. He's arguably Israel's most ardent POTUS vocal supporter the US has ever had. He moved the Capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem in Israel a year into his Presidency.  A large portion of the religious right of the Republican party supported this move and all Israel, supposedly, represents. 

I see a strange but not surprising phenomenon currently going on which has never been seen before. Liberals have become somewhat in agreement with the conservative religious right concerning Israeli post 10/7 military campaign or they're willingly self censoring themselves completely out of fear of being labeled an "ism".  All because there is a Liberal currently POTUS. Identity politics, a creation of the Progressive Liberals, created it and now they're reaping what they sowed. 

Interesting times. 

Edited May 3 by acidhead

[Setton]

4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

What do you think "From the River to the Sea" means?

Depends who's using it.

Some do use it to mean the complete removal of Israel as a state and returning all the land to the Palestinians.

Most mean liberating a Palestinian state from Israeli occupation.

Neither meaning is inherently anti-Semitic. Israel is not the sum total of Judaism. Remember, we're looking for protests calling for genocide of Jews, not opposition to a specific state.

[+Hammerclaw]

3 hours ago, Setton said:

Depends who's using it.

Some do use it to mean the complete removal of Israel as a state and returning all the land to the Palestinians.

Most mean liberating a Palestinian state from Israeli occupation.

Neither meaning is inherently anti-Semitic. Israel is not the sum total of Judaism. Remember, we're looking for protests calling for genocide of Jews, not opposition to a specific state.

You Islamoleftists are a pathetic lot. You don't even understand what you're saying. Hamas' stated goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews and Antisemitism is rife in your own country.

 

Edited May 3 by Hammerclaw

[Setton]

25 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

You Islamoleftists are a pathetic lot. You don't even understand what you're saying. Hamas' stated goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews and Antisemitism is rife in your own country.

 

Oh my god! He has a YouTube video! Clearly his argument is beyond reproach!

You don't seem to know what anti-Semitism means.

[Kittens Are Jerks]

Columbia riots’ masterminds are after the free world and the West

[T]he rioting at Columbia was not about the freedom, democracy, equality, justice, or peace that the Middle East craves. It was about their eradication.

Excerpts from the article cited below:

THE VIOLENCE between Butler Library and Hamilton Hall was not a protestation of an opinion, a law, or a policy. It was a hijacking. Inspired by the violence of the jihadists they admire, Columbia’s demonstrators hijacked a university and, while at it, served their heroes’ broader aim, which is not to better the Western civilization that Columbia University helped build but to defeat it. The first thing the mob on Columbia’s lawns made plain was that it does not espouse the ideas for which it claims to fight.

THE RIOTING on American campuses was fuelled by Muslim groups, both within and outside campus; cheered, and possibly encouraged, by Russia and China; and joined by the kind of impressionable ignoramuses that America’s high schools mass produce. Yes, an American student leader who says “Zionists don’t deserve to live” is an antisemite in terms of his emotions, but in terms of his knowledge he is also ignorant, clueless as a bird that across his country there are thousands of synagogues hoisting the Zionist flag in their sanctuaries; that almost every one of 7 million American Jews is a Zionist as are tens of millions of non-Jews including the American president and all his predecessors down to Harry Truman, even Jimmy Carter.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-799653

[+Hammerclaw]

15 minutes ago, Setton said:

Oh my god! He has a YouTube video! Clearly his argument is beyond reproach!

You don't seem to know what anti-Semitism means.

While you got nuthin'. Oh, I know quite well, while you bat your eyes vapidly like a schoolgirl, oblivious to it when it's right in front of you, hostility to or prejudice against Jews. Dare to be stupid some more, honey.

Edited May 3 by Hammerclaw

[Duke Wellington]

1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

You Islamoleftists are a pathetic lot. You don't even understand what you're saying. Hamas' stated goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews and Antisemitism is rife in your own country.

 

The absurdity of the woke movement.

Just to show there is no rational thought behind their ideology they call those opposing mass immigration racist, but at the same time they want the removal of Israel and the destruction of the Jews. How racist is that?

Why do the left also mischaracterise all far left governments who have done things like genocide as being far right? Did Hitler not state he is a socialist? Did he not apply socialist policies throughout Germany? What is actually going on is that they have designated everyone who is anti-immigration as being far-right while paying absolutely no consideration at all to all of their other policies.

Once we remove the mischaracterisations we discover that throughout history it is the far-left who have done all the genocides. Every single one. They are bat **** crazy as can be seen by the current woke movements conduct.

[Zebra3]

1 hour ago, Duke Wellington said:

Why do the left also mischaracterise all far left governments who have done things like genocide as being far right?

Because they are what they say they aren't.

[docyabut2]

2 hour(s) ago

PINNED

'Death to America': NYPD finds inflammatory signs at New York University encampment;(

The NYPD released an image showing a "death to America" poster at New York University anti-Israel encampment Friday, May 3, 2024. (

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/may-3-police-arrests-campus-protests-encampments

Edited May 3 by docyabut2

[+susieice]

5 hours ago, Kittens Are Jerks said:

Columbia riots’ masterminds are after the free world and the West

[T]he rioting at Columbia was not about the freedom, democracy, equality, justice, or peace that the Middle East craves. It was about their eradication.

Excerpts from the article cited below:

THE VIOLENCE between Butler Library and Hamilton Hall was not a protestation of an opinion, a law, or a policy. It was a hijacking. Inspired by the violence of the jihadists they admire, Columbia’s demonstrators hijacked a university and, while at it, served their heroes’ broader aim, which is not to better the Western civilization that Columbia University helped build but to defeat it. The first thing the mob on Columbia’s lawns made plain was that it does not espouse the ideas for which it claims to fight.

THE RIOTING on American campuses was fuelled by Muslim groups, both within and outside campus; cheered, and possibly encouraged, by Russia and China; and joined by the kind of impressionable ignoramuses that America’s high schools mass produce. Yes, an American student leader who says “Zionists don’t deserve to live” is an antisemite in terms of his emotions, but in terms of his knowledge he is also ignorant, clueless as a bird that across his country there are thousands of synagogues hoisting the Zionist flag in their sanctuaries; that almost every one of 7 million American Jews is a Zionist as are tens of millions of non-Jews including the American president and all his predecessors down to Harry Truman, even Jimmy Carter.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-799653

It's one thing to raise good people. It's another thing to raise fools. When you have kids that can't tell you what state California is in, or what year the 2012 Olympics were held, or what countries border the US...that's not funny. There's tons of videos on social media that show this. Jimmy Kimmel does it on his show all the time. 

I said way back in this thread when I was posting the links to what was happening at Columbia that I was seeing men who couldn't be students, they had to be at least 30-40 yrs old. Now they know there were instigators. Look at the videos and the pictures coming out of UCLA. Half of those students were dressed like arabs and covering their faces. If they weren't they were wearing surgical masks from the covid era. What protesters before ever did that? Who was telling them to cover their faces so they wouldn't be recognized? They're all on high resolution film and that can be tweeked. Especially the ones with the covid masks. A lot of business owners have said they hire firms that will investigate all job applicants. These firms also search the dark web for sites they may be posting in. Some have said they will not hire applicants from certain colleges. Some are saying they will not be recruiting promising graduates like they used to. And yes, they can do this. There's 10s of thousands of potential employees to choose from. No one has to donate millions of dollars to anyone and they don't have to keep offering scholarships.

Even before I retired we knew employers checked social media sites to see what you posted and who you associated with.

[CrimsonKing]

6 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

You Islamoleftists are a pathetic lot. You don't even understand what you're saying. Hamas' stated goal is the complete destruction of Israel and the Jews and Antisemitism is rife in your own country.

 

Good video,he explains things very well. 👍 

[Antigonos]

14 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

What do you think "From the River to the Sea" means?

I don’t know if there’s a direct connection or not given the amount of time that has passed, but during the late Crusader period there was a similar expression used as a rallying cry by the Muslims, that they would drive all the infidels from the holy places  “into the sea”. The context both phrases having in common being the complete purging of their sworn enemies from the entirety of the Holy Land. 

[Doug1066]

As a survivor of Kent State, this brings back some bad memories.

Notice that the schools with the worst problems seem to be those with politically conservative administrations?  Too eager to call in the cops.  Better to meet with the students and see if some compromise is possible - like finding out how many pro-Israeli entities the university does business with and divesting as many of those as practical.  That may be easier said than done.

Columbia seems to have a lot of off-campus people getting involved.  This has been a problem since forever.  During the 60s it was police plants causing trouble.  Hard to tell who these modern interlopers are.  At Kent State, the girl in the photo shown bending over a dead student was a high school runaway and not part of the university.  In spite of the claims of "outside agitators" no outside agitator was ever identified.  I suspect there were a tiny few, though.

 

The big lesson is:  if you object to war, the First Amendment doesn't apply to you.  The state can and will kill you.  You will be arrested on fake charges, or just beaten and tear-gassed without trial.  Police are not there to enforce the Constitution.  They are there to do whatever their masters tell them to do - civil rights and freedom to assemble be damned.

Doug

[CrimsonKing]

5 minutes ago, Doug1066 said:

As a survivor of Kent State, this brings back some bad memories.

Notice that the schools with the worst problems seem to be those with politically conservative administrations?  Too eager to call in the cops.  Better to meet with the students and see if some compromise is possible - like finding out how many pro-Israeli entities the university does business with and divesting as many of those as practical.  That may be easier said than done.

Columbia seems to have a lot of off-campus people getting involved.  This has been a problem since forever.  During the 60s it was police plants causing trouble.  Hard to tell who these modern interlopers are.  At Kent State, the girl in the photo shown bending over a dead student was a high school runaway and not part of the university.  In spite of the claims of "outside agitators" no outside agitator was ever identified.  I suspect there were a tiny few, though.

 

The big lesson is:  if you object to war, the First Amendment doesn't apply to you.  The state can and will kill you.  You will be arrested on fake charges, or just beaten and tear-gassed without trial.  Police are not there to enforce the Constitution.  They are there to do whatever their masters tell them to do - civil rights and freedom to assemble be damned.

Doug

Did you not notice how long it took before the police were finally called in?...did you not read about for weeks the idiots in charge at the universities tried negotiating with morons?

No doubt there were professional trouble makers about,but the truly sad scary part is...how easily they whipped a mass of college aged adults into a very Nazi sounding mob in a matter of weeks,all across the country!

Watch some of the videos...that ain't no anti-Vietnam protest speak going on in many of them.

How have so many people missed all of this?... it's been all over TV news and the Internet for weeks now...or are people just willfully ignoring proof positive because it doesn't line up with their personal politics.

 

[Setton]

6 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

While you got nuthin'. Oh, I know quite well, while you bat your eyes vapidly like a schoolgirl, oblivious to it when it's right in front of you, hostility to or prejudice against Jews. Dare to be stupid some more, honey.

Do you want to try that post again? Perhaps after an English lesson or two. 

[+susieice]

3 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Did you not notice how long it took before the police were finally called in?...did you not read about for weeks the idiots in charge at the universities tried negotiating with morons?

No doubt there were professional trouble makers about,but the truly sad scary part is...how easily they whipped a mass of college aged adults into a very Nazi sounding mob in a matter of weeks,all across the country!

Watch some of the videos...that ain't no anti-Vietnam protest speak going on in many of them.

How have so many people missed all of this?... it's been all over TV news and the Internet for weeks now...or are people just willfully ignoring proof positive because it doesn't line up with their personal politics.

 

I'm waiting for his story because I question his post.

[Setton]

42 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

I don’t know if there’s a direct connection or not given the amount of time that has passed, but during the late Crusader period there was a similar expression used as a rallying cry by the Muslims, that they would drive all the infidels from the holy places  “into the sea”. The context both phrases having in common being the complete purging of their sworn enemies from the entirety of the Holy Land. 

So not about the race, about the occupying force.

[CrimsonKing]

2 minutes ago, susieice said:

I'm waiting for his story because I question his post.

I was thinking maybe being facetious...I guess we wait.

[Tatetopa]

11 hours ago, acidhead said:

I also wonder how many of these kids grew up with Liberal atheist parents who pounded into their heads that there is never an excuse to slaughter women and children in armed conflict no matter what country is doing the killing? 

That would also be true and an excellent thought.  Almost hopeful.  As Popeye once said, "Wrong is wrong even if it helps you."

Then you took the opportunity to  throw in more fear and blame.  Most of it not as well based on .logic or morals.  Except for the part about Trump.  It was not a Jewish conspiracy that brought him low but his own behavior. apparently.

[Doug1066]

12 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said:

Did you not notice how long it took before the police were finally called in?...did you not read about for weeks the idiots in charge at the universities tried negotiating with morons?

No doubt there were professional trouble makers about,but the truly sad scary part is...how easily they whipped a mass of college aged adults into a very Nazi sounding mob in a matter of weeks,all across the country!

Watch some of the videos...that ain't no anti-Vietnam protest speak going on in many of them.

How have so many people missed all of this?... it's been all over TV news and the Internet for weeks now...or are people just willfully ignoring proof positive because it doesn't line up with their personal politics.

 

You take however much time is needed to prevent a massacre.  What are you teaching kids about how democracy works when you impose your will by force?

"Professional trouble-makers?"  The same charge was leveled by Nixon, Agnew and Rhodes.  No "professional trouble-makers" were found.  I suspect there are some people at Columbia who believe intensely in what they're doing and would do it by themselves without any outside support.  But I doubt there are any "professionals" involved.

"That ain't no anti-Vietnam protest speak going on."  Thank God.  The shooting hasn't started yet.  But if this thing keeps going, it will.

Proof?  How about naming some of those "professional trouble-makers?"  Who is bank-rolling them?  What outside organizations are involved (other than police)?

Doug

[Kittens Are Jerks]

7 minutes ago, Doug1066 said:

Proof?  How about naming some of those "professional trouble-makers?"  Who is bank-rolling them?  What outside organizations are involved (other than police)?

Here's one source I bookmarked. Have not as yet had time to cross reference it with other sources.

https://www.jns.org/who-is-paying-for-the-american-campus-protests/

[Tatetopa]

Lets use every possible opportunity to criticize and put the hate on every citizen that does not think like we do. It is always somebody else at fault.  Lets put on the jack boots and stomp them into the mud.  I am sure Russia and China are happy with the efforts.

Best way for a democracy to stay a democracy is  beat students into submission? Democracy always thrives under iron control by the state? 

The students will pay a price for all of this, Their education is disrupted, those that are arrested will suffer further real life consequences.  Already CEO's are stating they will not hire them.