Mental illness, shadow creatures, paranoia, real life.

[George Ford]

I know this sounds insane and likely is insane but... shadow creatures are back in my life, they keep me awake sometimes, I know they are not real though. I hear stuff that I assume was never an actual noise but I react to that noise. I spoke to a doctor with my concerns and and they said just wait until I get an appointment but that it may take months. Nothing is telling me to do anything but the paranoia is effecting the way I live. I really am getting worn down. 

But anyway, today a woman followed me through the shop at 9:45pm, she followed me around the shop pretending not to follow me but bought only a pack of crisps. I went to another row and she poked her head out to look to see where I was and then pretend to read the label of something or other. I was well aware I might be just being paranoid, but she waited until I got served at the buying bit. She followed me out and got in car and then watched me walk out the car park. When I walked through the estate and got home she was driving up the road and when I got to my gate she stopped the car, reveresed and left. 

To summarise, I know the shadow and audio hallucinations are part of some sort of illness but the car and woman were real. Like the shadow things and voice are hints of things that might have happened where as the car and woman are 100% real, she was talking to the woman that served me as I left. 

 And also any shrill noise sounds like my mother shouting my name in a harsh way, no other words, only my name being yelled at high pitch and it startles me and makes me panic. 

 I Know how messed up it is but I can't get anyone to take it as seriously as it is effecting me.

 

 

[joseraul]

Sounds a bit schizotypal?

The brain acts as a transducer, rather than a computer.. Normally,  as you process stimuli your brain tries to fill in gaps, like putting together a piece of a puzzle without all the pieces... people with these kinds of conditions get stimuli interpreted in a different ways. To varying degrees of extreme.

For myself with extreme sleep deprivation and/or intoxication.. low, faint noises, like a fan running on the other side of the house, gets interpreted as random voices with no intelligible speech.

This condition also seems to include ideas/beliefs.. again to varying degrees of extreme..

 

but yeah man, you should def talk to a doctor, especially if you live with it at this level constantly.  

[George Ford]

it's nearly 3am. Going to go to bed and call my friend tomorrow. If the doctor knows I'm bi-polar and I tell him I am this ill and he just puts me on a list to get help but says it will be months then why the **** did I pay all those taxes when I used to work hard and burn the candles at both ends for decades? They never take stuff like this seriously until it's to late

[George Ford]

1 minute ago, joseraul said:

Sounds a bit schizotypal?

The brain acts as a transducer, rather than a computer.. Normally,  as you process stimuli your brain tries to fill in gaps, like putting together a piece of a puzzle without all the pieces... people with these kinds of conditions get stimuli interpreted in a different ways. To varying degrees of extreme.

For myself with extreme sleep deprivation and/or intoxication.. low, faint noises, like a fan running on the other side of the house, gets interpreted as random voices with no intelligible speech.

This condition also seems to include ideas/beliefs.. again to varying degrees of extreme..

 

but yeah man, you should def talk to a doctor, especially if you live with it at this level constantly.  

got some Seroquel, going to take one of them (I am prescribed them) and get down for a few hours. I'll try getting proper help later today.

[joseraul]

Just be patient with yourself, and with suffering medical industries it never hurts to study psychology or the area of your particular illness.

Best of luck, have a good night/day.

[Hankenhunter]

2 hours ago, George Ford said:

got some Seroquel, going to take one of them (I am prescribed them) and get down for a few hours. I'll try getting proper help later today.

If you find yourself getting angry, or angry thoughts for no reason, it's the Seroquel. It's a side effect. 

Hank

Edited April 30, 2024 by Hankenhunter

[Duke Wellington]

2 hours ago, George Ford said:

I know this sounds insane and likely is insane but... shadow creatures are back in my life, they keep me awake sometimes, I know they are not real though. I hear stuff that I assume was never an actual noise but I react to that noise. I spoke to a doctor with my concerns and and they said just wait until I get an appointment but that it may take months. Nothing is telling me to do anything but the paranoia is effecting the way I live. I really am getting worn down. 

But anyway, today a woman followed me through the shop at 9:45pm, she followed me around the shop pretending not to follow me but bought only a pack of crisps. I went to another row and she poked her head out to look to see where I was and then pretend to read the label of something or other. I was well aware I might be just being paranoid, but she waited until I got served at the buying bit. She followed me out and got in car and then watched me walk out the car park. When I walked through the estate and got home she was driving up the road and when I got to my gate she stopped the car, reveresed and left. 

To summarise, I know the shadow and audio hallucinations are part of some sort of illness but the car and woman were real. Like the shadow things and voice are hints of things that might have happened where as the car and woman are 100% real, she was talking to the woman that served me as I left. 

And also any shrill noise sounds like my mother shouting my name in a harsh way, no other words, only my name being yelled at high pitch and it startles me and makes me panic. 

I Know how messed up it is but I can't get anyone to take it as seriously as it is effecting me.

I prefer the name watchers, not shadow people.

Have you ever had a watcher when someone was with you? And did they see it too? Because I have, and therefore I know science doesn`t know what it`s talking about.

I`m not talking about us seeing something out of the corner of our eyes either. I mean right in front of us, and it stayed for about 30 seconds. That creeped us both out. The 3 foot shadow figure in a clock made out of transparent blackness. Essentially a Jinn, even thought I`m a Christian. Mine started appearing as I dabbled with mysticism and the occult.

Kabballah, Bridal Mysticism, Sufism, and they turn up. Don`t believe me. Here you go, five short episodes: 

Follow along with it, practice what it tells you, and all the weird stuff starts happening.

Edited April 30, 2024 by Duke Wellington

[Alchopwn]

2 hours ago, George Ford said:

But anyway, today a woman followed me through the shop at 9:45pm, she followed me around the shop pretending not to follow me but bought only a pack of crisps. I went to another row and she poked her head out to look to see where I was and then pretend to read the label of something or other. I was well aware I might be just being paranoid, but she waited until I got served at the buying bit. She followed me out and got in car and then watched me walk out the car park. When I walked through the estate and got home she was driving up the road and when I got to my gate she stopped the car, reveresed and left. 

Dude, I have some good news and some bad news for you, based on this comment ^.

The good news:  Has it not occurred to you that this woman may have found you attractive?  Next time you are being stalked, or surveilled,  go and chat them up.  Lead in with a comment on any of the products in their basket like "Have you had those before?  I've eyed them off in the past, but I've never bought them.  Are they any good?".  Then ask her something about an item of clothing she is wearing, and where she got it, as you need to get your sister a present, and she might like something like that.  Be very polite if she refuses, and explain that you didn't mean to be creepy, it's just that buying clothes as a present is risky and you wanted your sister's okay.  Then ask if it was her you've seen shopping there before, and do a bit of neighborly small talk, then invite her for a coffee nearby.  If she says yes, great.  If no, then nvm.  If she says yes, over coffee find out if she lives nearby and if she's single etc.  Be friendly, funny, and charming, and if she responds by smiling and laughing a bit to hard at your jokes, say that she's lovely company and very easy to talk to, and ask her on a date.

The bad news:  Your paranoia means you missed out on her signals, which weren't necessarily hostile.

There's plenty of time to be paranoid during the relationship...😂

If she genuinely is a spook, you are always in.  Female spies are often recruited for their extreme superfreak horniness.  If she's a bit too smart, a bit too sexy and she will put out for free, odds on she's a spy (or a nymphomaniac, or both a spy and a nymphomaniac).  I have picked up a couple in my extensive world travels. You should also use a condom tho, or get yourself off to an STD clinic if you don't.  Promiscuity has its price.

Edited April 30, 2024 by Alchopwn

[Ell]

If something affects one's brain, it might be a poison, like for example exposure to a heavy metal or paint, or it might be due to an infection by a bacterium or a virus, or it might be due to a medical treatment, maybe the mRNA injection.

 

So the question is: what is the cause of the symptoms?

[the13bats]

George, one size doesn't fit all and none of here are docs but you are going to see your doc which is great, and i take you very serious.

I don't call myself paranoid I'm Hypervigilance lol,

Sure, the real girl might have thought you attractive but she went past that into creepy weirdo mode I hate to admit it but what people do early on is just a sample of things to come,

I don't have visual hallucinations but I do have audio one and I live in a horrid state of near panic drdp fear and anxiety made worse by things I can't change you know play the hand life deals us.

 

 

[openozy]

6 hours ago, Duke Wellington said:

I prefer the name watchers, not shadow people.

That's a good description.

[openozy]

8 hours ago, George Ford said:

shadow creatures are back in my life, they keep me awake sometimes, I know they are not real though.

They are real to many people with no mental illness and are seen all the time. I don't know what they are but they won't harm you, physically anyway. They just like watching as Duke Wellington says. The paranormal can send people crazy if they let their fear take over.

[TashaMarie]

2 hours ago, openozy said:

They are real to many people with no mental illness and are seen all the time. I don't know what they are but they won't harm you, physically anyway. They just like watching as Duke Wellington says. The paranormal can send people crazy if they let their fear take over.

Are they or are they real to people who have not yet had a mental health diagnosis. 

I am so glad George has reached out to their Dr for help that is absolutely the right thing to do I hope that the wait is not to long.

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, TashaMarie said:

Are they or are they real to people who have not yet had a mental health diagnosis. 

I am so glad George has reached out to their Dr for help that is absolutely the right thing to do I hope that the wait is not to long.

That's just it. Before I made any connections of alleged paranormal experiences and mental illness I did wonder what if the mental illness be it from a head brain injury or inherited or drugs. Poison etc ? Effected the very parts of the brain that allowed a person to separate reality from delusions to be able to objectively consider that what is real to them simply isn't it's just a result of their conditions. Admit mental illness is a possibility.

Then on here I see some dear true believers denounce a person seek professional medical mental health care I found that the epitomy of evil and that's when I started seeing a possible direct connection between mental illness and clams of paranormal,

no. I of course I'm not suggesting all alleged paranormal experiences are the results of mental illness or brain injury but I do believe some if not many are and after some research on the subject sure enough I'm on the right track, many who have mental issues simply can not, will not considered it the source of there alleged experiences, they many times make claims of special powers and blame the non believers as being flawed in not experiencing what they perceived as being reality,

And I'm not talking about it always being some obviously mentally ill individuals like one might see ranting at clouds or cussing a park bench but rather persons who hold down jobs have families friends etc , one example is the thread on here where the lady thinks she married a ghost then divorced the ghost husband, to her that delusional is very real of course these people can never support any claims all they have are stories and when their stories are doubted or they are asked for supporting evidence many times they become very cross. It's a threat to their perception of reality.

I feel badly for them not knowing they have mental issues not knowing what is reality and what is delusional so it's very important we do suggest professional care in such cases and not take their anger personally.

[TashaMarie]

13 hours ago, George Ford said:

I know this sounds insane and likely is insane but... shadow creatures are back in my life, they keep me awake sometimes, I know they are not real though. I hear stuff that I assume was never an actual noise but I react to that noise. I spoke to a doctor with my concerns and and they said just wait until I get an appointment but that it may take months. Nothing is telling me to do anything but the paranoia is effecting the way I live. I really am getting worn down. 

But anyway, today a woman followed me through the shop at 9:45pm, she followed me around the shop pretending not to follow me but bought only a pack of crisps. I went to another row and she poked her head out to look to see where I was and then pretend to read the label of something or other. I was well aware I might be just being paranoid, but she waited until I got served at the buying bit. She followed me out and got in car and then watched me walk out the car park. When I walked through the estate and got home she was driving up the road and when I got to my gate she stopped the car, reveresed and left. 

To summarise, I know the shadow and audio hallucinations are part of some sort of illness but the car and woman were real. Like the shadow things and voice are hints of things that might have happened where as the car and woman are 100% real, she was talking to the woman that served me as I left. 

 And also any shrill noise sounds like my mother shouting my name in a harsh way, no other words, only my name being yelled at high pitch and it startles me and makes me panic. 

 I Know how messed up it is but I can't get anyone to take it as seriously as it is effecting me.

 

 

I'm sorry that you have to wait to receive the help you need. Have you tried looking for any nearby resources that may be able to offer assistance while you wait? Also, would self-referring possibly reduce your wait time? Regarding the incident with the woman, if it happens again, please try to note the make and model of the car, along with its colour and number plate, if possible. If you feel frightened or concerned, you can always report it to the police or have a chat with them about it.

[TashaMarie]

48 minutes ago, the13bats said:

That's just it. Before I made any connections of alleged paranormal experiences and mental illness I did wonder what if the mental illness be it from a head brain injury or inherited or drugs. Poison etc ? Effected the very parts of the brain that allowed a person to separate reality from delusions to be able to objectively consider that what is real to them simply isn't it's just a result of their conditions. Admit mental illness is a possibility.

Then on here I see some dear true believers denounce a person seek professional medical mental health care I found that the epitomy of evil and that's when I started seeing a possible direct connection between mental illness and clams of paranormal,

no. I of course I'm not suggesting all alleged paranormal experiences are the results of mental illness or brain injury but I do believe some if not many are and after some research on the subject sure enough I'm on the right track, many who have mental issues simply can not, will not considered it the source of there alleged experiences, they many times make claims of special powers and blame the non believers as being flawed in not experiencing what they perceived as being reality,

And I'm not talking about it always being some obviously mentally ill individuals like one might see ranting at clouds or cussing a park bench but rather persons who hold down jobs have families friends etc , one example is the thread on here where the lady thinks she married a ghost then divorced the ghost husband, to her that delusional is very real of course these people can never support any claims all they have are stories and when their stories are doubted or they are asked for supporting evidence many times they become very cross. It's a threat to their perception of reality.

I feel badly for them not knowing they have mental issues not knowing what is reality and what is delusional so it's very important we do suggest professional care in such cases and not take their anger personally.

There is still a stigma around mental health, and it seems like no country's government provides adequate support and funding for the diagnosis and treatment of mental health issues. While it would be wrong to assume that everyone who has experienced something 'paranormal' has a mental illness, we should still investigate the possibility thoroughly, just as we would with any other medical issue that could have caused the experience.

 

[joseraul]

“The line between insanity and mysticism is thin; the line between reality and unreality is thin. Liminality as a spiritual concept is all about the porousness of boundaries.”
― Esmé Weijun Wang

[XenoFish]

3 hours ago, joseraul said:

“The line between insanity and mysticism is thin; the line between reality and unreality is thin. Liminality as a spiritual concept is all about the porousness of boundaries.”
― Esmé Weijun Wang

And? Is this quote supposed to prove any sort of point?

[Bed of chaos]

Out of curiosity does the shouting/loud voices start right before you're about to fall asleep? To clarify, right before you're about to lose consciousness? Plus if you're hallucinating during the day this might transcend above a sleeping disorder. Or take a picture of the mysterious girl following you. That could easily seperate fact from fiction. Anyway good luck and keep us informed.

[the13bats]

6 hours ago, TashaMarie said:

There is still a stigma around mental health, and it seems like no country's government provides adequate support and funding for the diagnosis and treatment of mental health issues. While it would be wrong to assume that everyone who has experienced something 'paranormal' has a mental illness, we should still investigate the possibility thoroughly, just as we would with any other medical issue that could have caused the experience.

 

I fully agree I have mental issues and no hang ups admitting it but for some they may not even know they have issues other times ego gets in the way it's far cooler sounding to some to say, I have special powers than admit I'm just a flawed human.

[the13bats]

4 minutes ago, Bed of chaos said:

Out of curiosity does the shouting/loud voices start right before you're about to fall asleep? To clarify, right before you're about to lose consciousness? Plus if you're hallucinating during the day this might transcend above a sleeping disorder. Or take a picture of the mysterious girl following you. That could easily seperate fact from fiction. Anyway good luck and keep us informed.

In my case my audio hallucinations are very much related to sleep state etc.

[the13bats]

Maybe worth my babble I know personally but not to the extent of the OP and some by proxy when a person does have issues like these it's super hard to know things like shadow being are not reality they are not real in the believers mind but then an odd ball acting person like the stalker lady is reality but even so we can't drop down a rabbit hole many times I've let my mind run away with hypervigilance stuff like terror with a non event like someone knocked on my door many times and of the times I cowboy up and go to my door it's stupid nothing like is my car for sale. ,( it's an old classic so flippers try to buy it )

I once had a lady give me the creeps in Walmart watching me since I couldn't really hide I asked, do I know you? She said sorry and thought I was an old friend of her brother who passed away, I wasn't but point is she wasn't some demon out to get me.

I've never had visual hallucinations but my audio ones are very very real...only in my head and I find that very interesting more so than making wild unsupported claims of paranormal

 

[preacherman76]

4 hours ago, XenoFish said:

And? Is this quote supposed to prove any sort of point?

Why would you think that? 

[preacherman76]

2 hours ago, the13bats said:

I fully agree I have mental issues and no hang ups admitting it but for some they may not even know they have issues other times ego gets in the way it's far cooler sounding to some to say, I have special powers than admit I'm just a flawed human.

I’ve never seen a witness to a shadow person claim they have special powers. 

[XenoFish]

9 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Why would you think that? 

Because it is out of place.