Now conspiracy theorists are claiming that our solar system has two suns

[UM-Bot]

This latest in a long line of ridiculous conspiracy theories is perhaps the most nonsensical one to date.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/376692/now-conspiracy-theorists-are-claiming-that-our-solar-system-has-two-suns

[Abramelin]

Scientists say that 'devolution' as opposite to 'evolution' doesn't exist.

I'm starting to doubt that.

[Waspie_Dwarf]

🫣

[Trelane]

"Now conspiracy theorists are claiming that our solar system has two suns"

 

Well of course it does. I'm not sure if these folks cross referenced with their flat-earth homies but yeah, this tracks.

[esoteric_toad]

Conspiracy folks are notorious for completely ignoring even basic science.  Science taught in elementary school is often too much for them. 

[Abramelin]

1 hour ago, esoteric_toad said:

Conspiracy folks are notorious for completely ignoring even basic science.  Science taught in elementary school is often too much for them. 

And one of them is my collegue.

A guy who could play "Obelix" in a movie about "Asterix and Obelix".

He's the most gentle, generous and friendly guy I ever have known.

But he firmly believes in those crazy conspiracy theories.

 

 

[Ell]

There is the northern hemispherical sun and the southern hemispherical sun, so obviously there indeed are two (half) suns.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Not to mention the April Sun in Cuba…

[joseraul]

Some people process life in black and white and so his sarcasm was taken at full value. Wow.

Edited May 1, 2024 by joseraul

[Occupational Hubris]

Look at these idiots that believe in "the sun". Truly, there is a sucker born every minute. 

[sanchez710]

There's only one Sun in Scotland and we rarely see that!

[Scholar4Truth]

I know some who believe space does not even exist. 

[Peter Cox]

It has millions of suns. I mean my dad calls me son.

[WorldMysteries]

The Nemesis Theory, also known as the Second Sun Theory, proposes the existence of a second sun in our solar system. According to this theory, there is a dwarf star named Nemesis that orbits at a great distance from our sun. Here are the key points about Nemesis:

1. Purpose of Nemesis:
   • Nemesis is named after the Greek goddess of vengeance, which adds a chilling connotation to its existence.
   • The theory suggests that Nemesis could be responsible for triggering extinction events on Earth by disrupting comets in the Oort cloud—a mass of comets and debris located in the far reaches of space.
2. Regular Extinction Events:
   • Approximately every 26–28 million years, Earth experiences a catastrophic extinction event.
   • These events have occurred reliably throughout Earth’s history, including the famous extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.
   • The cause of these extinctions remained a mystery until astronomers considered extraterrestrial factors.
3. Nemesis’s Role:
   • Nemesis is believed to be a red or brown dwarf star, making it difficult to detect due to its low brilliance.
   • Its orbit periodically brings it through the Oort cloud, disturbing comets and sending them hurtling toward the inner planets.
   • These comets collide with Earth, causing mass extinctions over a prolonged period.
4. Detection Challenges:
   • Despite advanced technology and powerful telescopes, Nemesis has not been directly observed.
   • Its dark nature and distant location among other celestial bodies make it elusive.
   • Astronomers continue to search for Nemesis based on calculations related to past extinction events, but its discovery remains pending1.
5. Debates and Inconsistencies:
   • Some scientists argue that the regular 27-million-year peak in extinction events is inconsistent with Nemesis’s existence2.
   • While Nemesis remains hypothetical, the idea of an ancient twin for our Sun persists, even if it no longer actively affects our solar system3.

In summary, while Nemesis remains unconfirmed, the concept of a second sun with potentially catastrophic consequences continues to intrigue astronomers and researchers. Whether Nemesis truly exists or not, it remains a fascinating topic in the realm of cosmic mysteries. 🌟🌏

https://owlcation.com/stem/Nemesis-Is-there-a-Second-Sun-in-the-Solar-System

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(hypothetical_star)

https://www.sciencealert.com/our-sun-could-have-been-born-with-a-twin-called-nemesis

 

 

 

[Trelane]

......😶

Well, I'm convinced.

 

[Abramelin]

5 hours ago, WorldMysteries said:

The Nemesis Theory, also known as the Second Sun Theory, proposes the existence of a second sun in our solar system. According to this theory, there is a dwarf star named Nemesis that orbits at a great distance from our sun. Here are the key points about Nemesis:

1. Purpose of Nemesis:
   • Nemesis is named after the Greek goddess of vengeance, which adds a chilling connotation to its existence.
   • The theory suggests that Nemesis could be responsible for triggering extinction events on Earth by disrupting comets in the Oort cloud—a mass of comets and debris located in the far reaches of space.
2. Regular Extinction Events:
   • Approximately every 26–28 million years, Earth experiences a catastrophic extinction event.
   • These events have occurred reliably throughout Earth’s history, including the famous extinction of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.
   • The cause of these extinctions remained a mystery until astronomers considered extraterrestrial factors.
3. Nemesis’s Role:
   • Nemesis is believed to be a red or brown dwarf star, making it difficult to detect due to its low brilliance.
   • Its orbit periodically brings it through the Oort cloud, disturbing comets and sending them hurtling toward the inner planets.
   • These comets collide with Earth, causing mass extinctions over a prolonged period.
4. Detection Challenges:
   • Despite advanced technology and powerful telescopes, Nemesis has not been directly observed.
   • Its dark nature and distant location among other celestial bodies make it elusive.
   • Astronomers continue to search for Nemesis based on calculations related to past extinction events, but its discovery remains pending1.
5. Debates and Inconsistencies:
   • Some scientists argue that the regular 27-million-year peak in extinction events is inconsistent with Nemesis’s existence2.
   • While Nemesis remains hypothetical, the idea of an ancient twin for our Sun persists, even if it no longer actively affects our solar system3.

In summary, while Nemesis remains unconfirmed, the concept of a second sun with potentially catastrophic consequences continues to intrigue astronomers and researchers. Whether Nemesis truly exists or not, it remains a fascinating topic in the realm of cosmic mysteries. 🌟🌏

https://owlcation.com/stem/Nemesis-Is-there-a-Second-Sun-in-the-Solar-System

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(hypothetical_star)

https://www.sciencealert.com/our-sun-could-have-been-born-with-a-twin-called-nemesis

 

 

 

Nemesis .... Nibiru.

Gawd...

[ChrLzs]

On 5/2/2024 at 6:21 AM, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Not to mention the April Sun in Cuba…

Hey, hey, hey!  Take me there.

[Antigonos]

Well we can add basic astronomy to the ever growing list of things conspiracy theorists don’t know anything about.

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, Antigonos said:

Well we can add basic astronomy to the ever growing list of things conspiracy theorists don’t know anything about.

There's a glut of flat earthers, hollow earthers and hollow mooners.

It's just so idiotic....

[ChrLzs]

To see how bad it gets... Search 'Nancy Lieder'... To summarise, Nancy discovered an unwrapped (gasp!!) Starburst, and that was the first sign that the aliens were communicating with her ... It just gets worse after that.  She even had her perfectly healthy dog put down to save it from the end of the world, which of course didn't happen...  Conspiracy theories and stupidity are NOT harmless.

[mestlc]

Everyone knows there is only one sun and it is made of cheese. 

Look, I am a big fan of conspiracies but I feel like these nonsensical ones just take away from ones that have grounds to be proven or have been proven by making them all look stupid. 

I always tell people when considering a conspiracy theory to ask themselves one simple question - who benefits from hiding the truth?  An example being who benefits from us being lied to about the earth being round - i.e. it "really" being flat. No one and nothing benefit from that so a logical approach will tell you without even looking into anything any deeper, it is BS.

[Bendy Demon]

To be serious for a moment I did look it up and there is a hypothesis that at one time in the very distant past that our sun had a binary companion, a small red dwarf, that said..it IS, however, just a hypothesis and as far as I have read there is really no evidence to support this claim.

From what I gather, there is a theory that all stars start out having a binary companion as they are born in clusters and our sun may have had a companion but they drifted apart in their own paths. However these are just theories and according to some scientists, our suns companion would have been roughly 200 billion kilometers away making it as bright as a half or quarter moon so someone would have noticed at some point.

There are other factors that are seemingly being ignored and that is if the sun currently does have a companion star then wouldn't the gravitational waves being emitted from it have detectable and measurable effects on our own sun and perhaps even the solar system itself?

Please note I am not an astronomer and am only going by what I have read, I stink at math and all that so I really don't know.

 

 

[Piney]

3 hours ago, mestlc said:

Everyone knows there is only one sun and it is made of cheese. 

Look, I am a big fan of conspiracies but I feel like these nonsensical ones just take away from ones that have grounds to be proven or have been proven by making them all look stupid. 

I always tell people when considering a conspiracy theory to ask themselves one simple question - who benefits from hiding the truth?  An example being who benefits from us being lied to about the earth being round - i.e. it "really" being flat. No one and nothing benefit from that so a logical approach will tell you without even looking into anything any deeper, it is BS.

That NWO banker conspiracy is impossible because there is absolutely no loyalty in commerce. When it involves the Rothschilds it's even sillier because they have less money than the Waltons (Walmart). 

[lightly]

   .  .    .what if we had a binary sun/star?   maybe with a tiny one nearly touching ,and completely obscured by, a  Much larger one??   Maybe the tiny one is wizzing around it’s companion at increasing velocities as it’s being pulled in!?      Or, what if what I just thought is ridiculous?  What then?      
    https://www.atnf.csiro.au/outreach/education/senior/astrophysics/binary_intro.html#:~:text=Perhaps up to 85% of,other and can exchange material.

       this seems to disprove my idea.   

Binary Stars

Binary stars are of immense importance to astronomers as they allow the masses of stars to be determined. A binary system is simply one in which two stars orbit around a common centre of mass, that is they are gravitationally bound to each other. Actually most stars are in binary systems. Perhaps up to 85% of stars are in binary systems with some in triple or even higher-multiple systems.

The orbital periods and distances of binaries vary enormously. Some systems are so close that the surfaces of the stars are practically touching each other and can exchange material. Others may be separated by a few thousand Astronomical Units and have orbital periods of hundreds of years.

Sir William Herschel (1738-1822) noted the apparent closeness of many stars and systematically observed them. He compiled a catalog of about 703 pairs of stars within a couple of arcseconds to each other

Edited June 26, 2024 by lightly

[mestlc]

On 6/25/2024 at 1:00 PM, Piney said:

That NWO banker conspiracy is impossible because there is absolutely no loyalty in commerce. When it involves the Rothschilds it's even sillier because they have less money than the Waltons (Walmart). 

There are a lot of people that have more wealth. Heck Putin is richer than Elon Musk (off paper). Why are there no conspiracies about him being part of the NWO? Maybe there are and I just haven't read them yet lol A lot of leaders and powerful people have more money than we can even imagine. They make people like Zuck, Musk, and Bezos look upper middle class lol